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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:22 am
by Snarky Fishes
In post 5023, Dunnstral wrote:I think the plan of Dragons voting Snarky Fishes and both dying is a good one
If Dragons is scum then that's that
If not, it removes corrupted Snarky Fishes and potentially turns manatee into a desharder, which they can use that night
If none of that stuff happens, then it's probably bad (at the very least Snarky fishes won't be corrupted living town)
what changed your mind?
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:27 am
by Lukewarm
I think that is me, manatee, the fishes, and Dunn on board for the "dragons hammer fishes" plan
(Although the fishes seemed more into it because of scum reading the dragons, but I'll take that anyways
)
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:36 am
by Snarky Fishes
In post 5051, Lukewarm wrote:I think that is me, manatee, the fishes, and Dunn on board for the "dragons hammer fishes" plan
(Although the fishes seemed more into it because of scum reading the dragons, but I'll take that anyways
)
Only half of Snarky is reading dragons as scum.
And medea has a point about it being really, really weird for us to have no counter to the shard win condition without killing a specific scum player.
-Bell
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:38 am
by Snarky Fishes
Also,
everyone needs to reply to the Assassin game I posted so Notty (NOT FF JEEZ) can compile it and present the results.
-Bell.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:45 am
by Snarky Fishes
Also, isn't the corrupter pretty much going to lead the town by the nose until every town human is killed? There remains no evidence that scum can't shard themselves.
-Bell
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:53 am
by Annie Edison
FERY ILL DO IT I JUST WOKE UP
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:55 am
by Annie Edison
@bell do you guys have updated reads that dont think there’s like 8 scum
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:57 am
by Lukewarm
In post 5054, Snarky Fishes wrote:Also, isn't the corrupter pretty much going to lead the town by the nose until every town human is killed? There remains no evidence that scum can't shard themselves.
-Bell
We do not have to kill exclusively in the humans for my plan. After the gambit with you and the dragons today, it is actually:
-Kill one player who is currently a demon
-Kill one player who is currently a human
We can now vote off anyone without worry of their demon/human status
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:07 am
by Annie Edison
We're missing AA9, Rhea, unwnd, an actual one from snarky, and spiffeh.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:08 am
by unwnd
I'm not doing the assassin list. I understand this is just going to agitate people more but that's my spitefulness. You don't get any quarter after I've bled for 500+ posts in this game and then some.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:08 am
by unwnd
In post 4926, unwnd wrote:I think Lukewarm is town.
I think Manatee is town.
I think LLD is town.
Those 3 I risk the game upon. Full confidence and I can have egg on my face if I'm wrong.
Dunnstral and Medea are
supposed
to be self-resolving, but with no kills happening this is not the case. Spiffeh fits a bit here too.They are not necessarily town rather in a do-not-touch pile.
Dragons to a lesser extent, but all the same because I
think
a desharder has to make sense.
I don't know what to think about you Snarky. I don't know what to think about AA9.
Who does that leave? Annie. You are not in the same lane as the others and it makes you stand out. I can't really touch the others. I think your claim sort of reflects this by claiming a one-shot cop. That's the only risk I am willing to take.
In post 4942, unwnd wrote:Actually I drop Manatee from egg from face
Just LLD and Lukewarm. I looked back and noticed some things that made me :/
These are my reads and my legacy. Not very exciting but neither is this situation.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:11 am
by Dunnstral
In post 5050, Snarky Fishes wrote: In post 5023, Dunnstral wrote:I think the plan of Dragons voting Snarky Fishes and both dying is a good one
If Dragons is scum then that's that
If not, it removes corrupted Snarky Fishes and potentially turns manatee into a desharder, which they can use that night
If none of that stuff happens, then it's probably bad (at the very least Snarky fishes won't be corrupted living town)
what changed your mind?
Dragons is in my potential scum grouping still. I wouldn't agree to annie hammering you for example.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:14 am
by Annie Edison
@medea/snarky do I just omit unwnds row or try to extrapolate the data from 4926
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:21 am
by Snarky Fishes
I'd extrapolate
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:23 am
by Annie Edison
I mean obvious I can tell where to put us, manatee, LLD, Luke. I guess the middle four as town?
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:25 am
by Annie Edison
I'm going out but here's what I have so far-
Left side is the person and the columns are their reads. I'll try to sort out unwnd's thoughts while I'm out and hopefully have the rest of the table tonight.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:27 am
by unwnd
Snarky wants to kill me as well, and AA9 just said she thinks I'm scum now too.
That's 6 players aka more than half. Who's bussing me?
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:27 am
by unwnd
Dragons is not a townread.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:29 am
by unwnd
{Lukewarm, LLD, Unwnd}
{Medea, Dunnstral} (EITHER BOTH TOWN OR BOTH SCUM)
{Snarky, AA9}
{Dragons, Manatee}
{Annie}
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:29 am
by Annie Edison
Unwnd I’m literally just trying to make sense of your wall because you don’t want to play ball
Ninja-
Okay, thank you.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:29 am
by unwnd
Spiffeh is in the Snarky/AA9 pile. Those are my definitive thoughts.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:31 am
by Annie Edison
I’ll call the cutoff for you the null line.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:35 am
by Snarky Fishes
Those are Bell's actual scumreads. There are competing ideas about different scum teams. Players say "for X to be scum that means that they're scum with Y and Z because of night results" and then dismiss the team because they're townreading one or more of Y and Z". Bell keeps that potential scum team in the front of his mind, along with all the others.
I have a list, but it just confirms my feelings that my brains have fallen out. And although Bell's approach is not what I'd probably do on my own, part of hydra-ing is learning more about how a partner approaches the game, and I find this part of his process very interesting!
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:36 am
by Lukewarm
In post 5065, Annie Edison wrote:I'm going out but here's what I have so far-
Left side is the person and the columns are their reads. I'll try to sort out unwnd's thoughts while I'm out and hopefully have the rest of the table tonight.
Mine does not match my answers. You only put yourself as red
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 4:37 am
by Medea the Alien
Hey, anyone who's around want to explain to me why scum with four shards to give out uninterrupted over two nights decided to give one to Annie N2 instead of N3 when Annie's ability, that they'd said was good enough to be demonized for, could then be used unimpeded N3? As opposed to one shard to Spiffeh each of N2 and N3?
--PA