I did but his interactions with Skitter looked weird to me, something was off there and then him wanting to leave Ydrasse behind kind of sealed it for me. I don’t like the way he keeps referring to her (Skitter’s) slot. I’m getting possible buddy vibes from their posts. When he sr her, she didn’t get upset about it and he keeps saying he wants to leave her behind but only talks about wanting me dead. That doesn’t sound like town making a good faith sorting of me. Those kind of posts generally come from scum trying to push a miselim. I just don’t buy it.
For first crossing? I think I’m probably the smartest pick in terms of not sending across someone we might end up wanting to leave behind. There’s a few people with 2 votes towards leaving them behind but I’m I don’t have the spreadsheet on me rn
Speaking of which I’m probably gonna stop posting for a couple hours because I’m doing a Halloween party as my first IRL social event in over a year!
For first crossing? I think I’m probably the smartest pick in terms of not sending across someone we might end up wanting to leave behind. There’s a few people with 2 votes towards leaving them behind but I’m I don’t have the spreadsheet on me rn
Speaking of which I’m probably gonna stop posting for a couple hours because I’m doing a Halloween party as my first IRL social event in over a year!
a) it could just be one as i said, but i don't think mafia would not participate in as a whole, though two-three definitely seems possible if trying to win game here
and
b) to stop me from crossing? like it's one less slot that could be occupied by mafia and they get rid of me and they limit my participation in choosing who should cross by making it seem like i'm scumread it's not super complicated
ok but you're arguing that like there's some conspiracy here and it just seems like dressed up OMGUS
i am probably most confident in you being town right now but i don't really see that read, other than non-interaction with dunn but in my coverage that could apply to a significant number of people so i don't think it's really telling, and there are some signs from his iso that are +town for her
what are these signs?
In post 4882, Taly wrote:I just dislike Gypyx's ISO and feel kind of weird how he became an overnight universal scumread.
I don't really SR Gypyx but they are a slot who needs to go before late-game so this is the time to cut them
omg I need to stop being conversational, I want to do analysis but I don't have the attention span
Someone force me to stfu and ISO.
i still don't have a good read on you and feel vaguely apprehensive but
let's try working together to go over people? i want someone to use as a sounding board this game and was hoping to use cakez but it seems like he doesn't have the time, and you seem to be the only other person with a strong inclination to tryhard right now. i want to feel like i'm not totally isolated in this game
yes use Taly
I only really have time to come to each game a couple times a day at most these days
Nah, sorry
Cakez
. The charm of being the first person to cross has worn off.
I want to ride this solve-with-
Peta
vibing for as long as it goes. Plus, his advice was sound. If I risk my death, it's better that I spilled my guts on the game as much as possible, and I hate doing that in the dead thread.
Also because
Gammagooey
doubling down and EMPHASIZING that I am the
only
person he thus far wants to attach a crossing order to, piques my interest immensely. I honestly trust it.
And because
Ydra
being like
"tHiS iS a MiStAkE"
made me double-take when I first read it.
VOTE: Dwlee, I initially thought
Gamma
, but
Gamma/Ydra/Cakez/Toog
all joining to vote me both gives me fuzzy vibes and also something I want to pay attention to.
Hell, I'd probably vote
Gamma
if someone told me to.
you can still talk if you cross no? are you worried scum are gonna dump you?
Thank you. Well, as I’ve already made clear, I’m extremely suspicious of Skitter. I suppose I could be wrong on Ulanya based off possible associatives with Dunn. I would definitely prefer her over gooey crossing because I just have really bad vibes off of gooey/Skitter interactions.
Dweele like you, were the initial votes on Dunn, so I kind’ve want to tr him for that.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:35 am
by SirCakez
In post 5029, Harley Quinn wrote:Taly/gooyey/Peta: please all regale me with your impressive scumhunting abilities (assuming you’re all town, well still pretty sure Taly still is) and tell me who my hypothetical buddies are?
*crickets*
*bookmarking this post when none of you have an answer*
When people realize that I don’t make sense as buddies with ANYONE, that will be priceless.
I’ll wait.
preflip associatives are gross
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:36 am
by SirCakez
I'm fine sending Peta first too if the wind is blowing that way
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:36 am
by ulyana
In post 4978, ulyana wrote:petapan should always cross fifth i think; seems like kill mafia would want the most right now to me,
a) it could just be one as i said, but i don't think mafia would not participate in as a whole, though two-three definitely seems possible if trying to win game here
and
b) to stop me from crossing? like it's one less slot that could be occupied by mafia and they get rid of me and they limit my participation in choosing who should cross by making it seem like i'm scumread it's not super complicated
ok but you're arguing that like there's some conspiracy here and it just seems like dressed up OMGUS
i am probably most confident in you being town right now but i don't really see that read, other than non-interaction with dunn but in my coverage that could apply to a significant number of people so i don't think it's really telling, and there are some signs from his iso that are +town for her
what are these signs?
In post 4882, Taly wrote:I just dislike Gypyx's ISO and feel kind of weird how he became an overnight universal scumread.
I don't really SR Gypyx but they are a slot who needs to go before late-game so this is the time to cut them
omg I need to stop being conversational, I want to do analysis but I don't have the attention span
Someone force me to stfu and ISO.
i still don't have a good read on you and feel vaguely apprehensive but
let's try working together to go over people? i want someone to use as a sounding board this game and was hoping to use cakez but it seems like he doesn't have the time, and you seem to be the only other person with a strong inclination to tryhard right now. i want to feel like i'm not totally isolated in this game
yes use Taly
I only really have time to come to each game a couple times a day at most these days
Nah, sorry
Cakez
. The charm of being the first person to cross has worn off.
I want to ride this solve-with-
Peta
vibing for as long as it goes. Plus, his advice was sound. If I risk my death, it's better that I spilled my guts on the game as much as possible, and I hate doing that in the dead thread.
Also because
Gammagooey
doubling down and EMPHASIZING that I am the
only
person he thus far wants to attach a crossing order to, piques my interest immensely. I honestly trust it.
And because
Ydra
being like
"tHiS iS a MiStAkE"
made me double-take when I first read it.
VOTE: Dwlee, I initially thought
Gamma
, but
Gamma/Ydra/Cakez/Toog
all joining to vote me both gives me fuzzy vibes and also something I want to pay attention to.
Hell, I'd probably vote
Gamma
if someone told me to.
you can still talk if you cross no? are you worried scum are gonna dump you?
I think scum killing Taly is a real possibility, so I’d prefer not to take the chance unless people think the order doesn’t actually matter?
In post 5029, Harley Quinn wrote:Taly/gooyey/Peta: please all regale me with your impressive scumhunting abilities (assuming you’re all town, well still pretty sure Taly still is) and tell me who my hypothetical buddies are?
*crickets*
*bookmarking this post when none of you have an answer*
When people realize that I don’t make sense as buddies with ANYONE, that will be priceless.
I’ll wait.
preflip associatives are gross
No because I see like a gazillion posts calling me scum but no one can link me to any living player, so how is that not a valid point?
a) it could just be one as i said, but i don't think mafia would not participate in as a whole, though two-three definitely seems possible if trying to win game here
and
b) to stop me from crossing? like it's one less slot that could be occupied by mafia and they get rid of me and they limit my participation in choosing who should cross by making it seem like i'm scumread it's not super complicated
ok but you're arguing that like there's some conspiracy here and it just seems like dressed up OMGUS
i am probably most confident in you being town right now but i don't really see that read, other than non-interaction with dunn but in my coverage that could apply to a significant number of people so i don't think it's really telling, and there are some signs from his iso that are +town for her
what are these signs?
In post 4882, Taly wrote:I just dislike Gypyx's ISO and feel kind of weird how he became an overnight universal scumread.
I don't really SR Gypyx but they are a slot who needs to go before late-game so this is the time to cut them
omg I need to stop being conversational, I want to do analysis but I don't have the attention span
Someone force me to stfu and ISO.
i still don't have a good read on you and feel vaguely apprehensive but
let's try working together to go over people? i want someone to use as a sounding board this game and was hoping to use cakez but it seems like he doesn't have the time, and you seem to be the only other person with a strong inclination to tryhard right now. i want to feel like i'm not totally isolated in this game
yes use Taly
I only really have time to come to each game a couple times a day at most these days
Nah, sorry
Cakez
. The charm of being the first person to cross has worn off.
I want to ride this solve-with-
Peta
vibing for as long as it goes. Plus, his advice was sound. If I risk my death, it's better that I spilled my guts on the game as much as possible, and I hate doing that in the dead thread.
Also because
Gammagooey
doubling down and EMPHASIZING that I am the
only
person he thus far wants to attach a crossing order to, piques my interest immensely. I honestly trust it.
And because
Ydra
being like
"tHiS iS a MiStAkE"
made me double-take when I first read it.
VOTE: Dwlee, I initially thought
Gamma
, but
Gamma/Ydra/Cakez/Toog
all joining to vote me both gives me fuzzy vibes and also something I want to pay attention to.
Hell, I'd probably vote
Gamma
if someone told me to.
you can still talk if you cross no? are you worried scum are gonna dump you?
I would resolve by the second cross deadline if I were crossing and NKed first.
And nah, I'm not so worried about scum killing me. I just don't want to potentially die early this event, I don't think 10 days will maximum gives me the most time to formulate a thoughtful solve.
and refrain from perpetuating the narrative that everyone but you is irrational?
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:13 pm
by petapan
hi
i thought about some things
read some stuff
i'm back to wanting to flip skitter
i'm coming back to a lot of my old reads. maybe it's too hard to break out of my established thinking. but at least i feel like i'm re-affirming my priors
not caught up right now, will do so later
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:14 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 5068, Taly wrote:How about you join me on Dwlee and refrain from perpetuating the narrative that everyone but you is irrational?
You know my opinion on who should be the first 4, but everyone has their own opinion. It's the pink room all over again.
I voted you because you are the leading wagon, and I was ready to just ride out the rest of the event singing, "Que Será, Será."
I'll vote dwlee, but this first crossing is a nightmare already and it's just getting worse as we get deeper into the event.
UNVOTE: VOTE: dwlee
I think I should definitely be one of the first four, as well as Cakez since there is almost zero chance that either of us is killed. I think if dwlee crosses, Gamma needs to cross as well, but he can't be 4th, because if he's town, he'll be the compromise kill by scum if he is the last of the first 4. I need to be 4th if there is no kill in the first 3.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:16 pm
by Toogeloo
We want to use the first 4 crossings as a "cop" of sorts. Force scum to shoot someone scummy, confirm there is scum in the first 4 people crossed, or win the game.
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:17 pm
by Taly
In post 4962, Toogeloo wrote:I still think going with Cakez, then dwlee, then gamma, then myself is best. If we are all town, who gets shot here? My money's on Gamma.
OK, why
Cakez
before
Dwlee
?
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:18 pm
by Taly
Like, I'm trying to work with you here
Toog
, if you continually spill out how it's impossible to build a cohesive town, the harder it actually becomes for me to do so.
In post 4879, Gamma Emerald wrote:they were actually helpful in FFXIV, especially with the flavor claims
here they're just a wet towel
this especially seems a case of engagement with the material/mechanics of that game vs. here although lord that is a big difference, looking at it. but i feel like the range of play and tone here is not that dissimilar to e.g. isekai upick or micro 1017, for towngames as reference. it doesn't feel like mini normal 2197.
i feel like fighting against the tide here might be a losing endeavor though and if i want to do things democratically i have to give up something here, and a flip there is at least useful for that dread term, "resolving the wagons" that lets us know what went on day 2
i'm not significantly convinced that either toog or gypyx are scum though and want to fight to save one though. i think revisiting prism and gypyx's iso needs to be next on my agenda
i'm realizing this event actually sucks, i'd significantly prefer to just flip one player and proceed from there, i am not a person who works via PoE at all
i continue to find almost every harley post suspicious, i don't even see the improvement gammagooey mentions
I wish to retract both of these statements. I don’t need to post every single thought that goes through my head. I think that both Peta and especially googey talking about me but never affording me the respect of directly interacting with me is not okay but at least Peta bothers to shade me by name but never quotes a single post why but whatever, I’m over it.