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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:04 am
by skitter30
right, but you're not really making endless pages of bad-faith arguments there, and as best as i can tell, you aren't going as ~hard~ there either (although, tbf, that might be a function of the sort of game it is

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:05 am
by skitter30
ngl the big mood is my favorite post of the game

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:06 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
did you read my other emotional blowups from that game? it's quite amazing how worked up I can get over a stupid internet game

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:08 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5075, skitter30 wrote:right, but you're not really making endless pages of bad-faith arguments there, and as best as i can tell, you aren't going as ~hard~ there either (although, tbf, that might be a function of the sort of game it is
well if you look at the activity overview from that game, I had almost 100 posts more than #2 and 300 more posts than number 3. I had to actively restrict my posting so it wouldn't be too much for the town to read because most of them were not playing as actively as contemporary mafia players would.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:09 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
and you keep saying this thing about bad faith but you have to understand in my mind this kind of stuff does make sense to me.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:42 am
by skitter30
In post 5077, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:did you read my other emotional blowups from that game? it's quite amazing how worked up I can get over a stupid internet game
u wanna link? not reading a 80p game

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:50 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:53 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
this page where i begin going after ambic is also pretty bad:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=1075

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:55 am
by skitter30
why are we even talking about emotional blowups again

and hey look what else i found:
In post 565, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:If I was scum,

I would not need to set up anything in the future.

The town has been going from one dumb wagon to another with no direction - the scum feel literally no pressure to do anything because the town is nowhere close to fingering any of them.

The scum feel so comfortable that they can sit back, let the town lurch from one bad wagon to another and shoot in wagon because the town is nowhere close to lynching scum.

So the idea that Pooky-Scum is setting up some nefarious plan in the future involving multiple moving parts is just absurd on its face.

I can't believe anymore that you really believe this because its just laughable.
wouldn't that apply to the scum-tw and scum-ss universe days2 and 3?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:56 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
no because they did prefer dsj to pooky - in the game you are reading the scum were happy to mostly sit on voting nobody

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:57 am
by skitter30
no? if scum-tw and scum-ss town has been lurching from from one dumb wagon to the next and town is nowhere close to lynching scum

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5083, skitter30 wrote:why are we even talking about emotional blowups again
because you said one of the reasons for suspecting me as scum was
In post 4974, skitter30 wrote:pooky my read on u is tghat u care about scum like 10x as much as u care about town, and that you're really passionate/driven and will do whatevr u can to win a scumgame, whereas u don't care as much about town
and that in coalition u didn't care about getting hammered cuz aldu was set up to win if u get voted out

I'm showing you a game where I cared tremendously about winning as town to show you that I do put massive effort into playing town well.

The emotional blowups are proof of my emotional commitment to a game where I am town.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 4956, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4902, Raven Branwen wrote:So, if Pooky flips town: SS/tw
If he flips scum: SS > Dats
right
so, if pooky flips town we just lose

i'm not sure why you're settling on scum!ss over scum!pooky

i also find you pushing dsjstr over pooky during the bomb-vig to be partner-indicative
Because I think Pooky is far more likely to flip town than SS. Re-read my ISO, I’ve been suspicious of him since D2.

I really don’t see why? I thought dsjtr was obvscum because many of his arguments really didn’t make sense to me. And it’s always smart to vote your strongest sr att which was obviously dsjtr. I can’t remember what post it was but I was actually bomb in a game, so that might have influenced it somewhat.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:02 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5085, skitter30 wrote:no? if scum-tw and scum-ss town has been lurching from from one dumb wagon to the next and town is nowhere close to lynching scum
the game was set up yesterday as dsj/pooky being the Low hanging fruits that would be lynched in order to get to a scum win. The scum did not really have to do anything - hence why ScumSS/TW do not really put much effort into solving the game.

When I suggested that I should be lynched on D2 and that my dying wish was that you guys see DSJ as a town and SS/TW as the 2 likely scum - that throws a wrench into SS/TW's plans - hence why they both end up supporting DSJ-lynch on D2 over Pooky lynch.

This doesn't make sense from TW-Town perspective because if his role was actually BG and he susp Pooky of being red, he'd want Pooky flipped since he knows Pooky red would clear him and his own role makes it more likely that Pooky is a red.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:04 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4974, skitter30 wrote:you're really passionate/driven and will do whatevr u can to win a scumgame, whereas u don't care as much about town
This statement really could not be further from the truth.

If you really take the time to read that game I linked, you will know the level of effort I put into winning as town when I am invested into a game.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:08 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 4970, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4962, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yes I can see bugs lol-hammering on D1 but they don't do that to their own teammate do they? sure they ignore what you told them in the scum PT but do they ignore your existence and just lol-hammer you in the first hours of D1? It's a pretty big stretch from scum using their meta to try to get away with a lol-hammer and scum lol-hammering their own partner.
we agreed in the scum pt that i would make aparticular fake-claim to take advantage of a particular mechanic in thread.
they lolhamemred and then claimed what i was going to fake-claim about 24 hours through day1
*mind blown*

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:15 am
by Something_Smart
In that game, how good were Pooky's reads? Did he have any that he was extremely confident on that turned out to be wrong?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:16 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5002, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4993, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4990, skitter30 wrote:i mean scum don't always play optimally
yes I know scum do not always play optimally - but the EV difference between bussing and pushing someone else when your scumpartner gets called out by the moderator for fake-claiming is just so so so big that I think almost any scum player who is not a complete noob would definitely pick the bus route.
idk. if u read thru that section she inexplicably wanted to not vote you, which was a p strange reaction from a townie
In post 5010, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 5002, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4993, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4990, skitter30 wrote:i mean scum don't always play optimally
yes I know scum do not always play optimally - but the EV difference between bussing and pushing someone else when your scumpartner gets called out by the moderator for fake-claiming is just so so so big that I think almost any scum player who is not a complete noob would definitely pick the bus route.
idk. if u read thru that section she inexplicably wanted to not vote you, which was a p strange reaction from a townie
yes it's weird from a townie but it's beyond suicidal dumb if we were S/S together.

Like I wanted to lynch myself that day and I KNEW what my role pm was.
I’ve already explained that I think he sounded different here than in coalition. From my brief skim, he sounded fake af in that, where he comes off sounding very sincere here. I pay alot of attention to tone. Do you know of a Pooky scumgame where he tonally sounds similar to this one?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:17 am
by the worst
How much value is there in reading the stuff I missed today

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:17 am
by skitter30
In post 5091, Something_Smart wrote:In that game, how good were Pooky's reads? Did he have any that he was extremely confident on that turned out to be wrong?
... as best as i can tell he correctly actively pushed for both flipped scum and got them voted out
(but tbf i only read bits of his iso, don't want to say that i holistically know that game)

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:20 am
by skitter30
In post 5086, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:The emotional blowups are proof of my emotional commitment to a game where I am town.
ok fair
but like ... your'e spouting bad faith arguments and you're capable of, like, not

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:20 am
by skitter30
In post 5093, the worst wrote:How much value is there in reading the stuff I missed today
look at my big mood on the previous page

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:21 am
by skitter30
In post 5087, Raven Branwen wrote:And it’s always smart to vote your strongest sr att which was obviously dsjtr. I can’t remember what post it was but I was actually bomb in a game, so that might have influenced it somewhat.
ok but if hte mod says someone is literally lying about their role, that's a p big scumtell and a higher priority than your scumread, no?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:22 am
by skitter30
In post 5089, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:If you really take the time to read that game I linked, you will know the level of effort I put into winning as town when I am invested into a game.
i'm not reading an 80-page game for a game taht's already 200 pages. sorry

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:24 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5095, skitter30 wrote:ok fair
but like ... your'e spouting bad faith arguments and you're capable of, like, not
i make a lot of what you would call "bad faith arguments" in the game I linked as well