Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Ircher]

I'm gonna be honest: there's a high chance (>50%) that I shoot one of Titus/Arte tonight.

[notscience]

Well of course you would it advances scum wincon

[Dwlee99]

So what was the debuff on morph that happened? I tried to skim their ISO but couldn't find it

[notscience]

She stole one of their SP

[Ircher]

Or I could shoot you again.

[notscience]

Please do!

Make my year

[Dwlee99]

That is not really a debuff. Has anyone claimed debuffs?

[notscience]

It is when you consider everyone needs specific SP to act and it could have pushed their action back from N1 to B2

[notscience]

N2

[Dunnstral]

Or I could shoot you again.

As you noted you can't actually do that

[notscience]

@Dunn- I see a bit of the parallels you made when speaking of morph, and obviously I can corroborate what LLD is saying. I think I become more concerned if we chain miselim off of them.

Ninja
Dunn let me taunt him don’t be a buzzkill

[NDMath]

I skimmed the last 4 pages, i have one question: votes on ndmath are because you believe he's a scum watcher?

I think not having SP doesn't make sense given what we know: Bingle confirmed SP w/o having SP abilities which would mean to me everyone has SP given that the mod said everyone starts with 2 SP.

Besides that, scum watcher is certainly possible + could decide to target LLD for info. I'd like to hear math's reasoning for targeting LLD as well.

Spoiler:

Didn't target bingle because of his pgo soft, thought he was ascetic or something since watcher and ic didn't make sense without some sort of interference.
Was gonna target Toog to potentially catch a roleblocker but was scared off by the day 1 hammer. Went for lld instead because I didn't think any town besides sigmund would ever visit that.

I wanted to target someone town doesn't visit, short of being a protective, so I wouldn't have to deal with someone trying to talk their way out of a guilty. Originally thought that would be Toog, with their early roleclaim + investigative abilities, but was concerned by their hammer and so instead targeted lld. No one outside of bingle/toog/lld was really in consideration for me, with those being near universal townreads at that point.

Out of 6 scum nobody knew or at least thought that no sp abilities does not equal no sp? When it is explicitly written in the mod rules?

I find it more likely that ndmath was told he *currently* has no sp (because he spent them or they were drained) but is able to generate more, and this exhange has been misinterpreted by either or both parts

I have my own issues with ndmath, but i don't understand the pushes based on the potential lie about sp mechanics. It seems a pointless lie to come up with as scum.

+ I'd like to hear from murdercat an up to date analysis on his own wagon, who's scum and why

Start of game I was told I do not have sp, and I don't gain sp.

One thing about scum watcher: I think scum watcher targets LLD and town watcher targets Sigmund.

Why? Sigmund was not gonna die, LLD led a wagon onto scum.

[Dwlee99]

Sigmund claimed doctor, seems like a good watcher target to me.

[NDMath]

Sigmund claimed doctor, seems like a good watcher target to me.

He was still a slight scumread for me, two players have claimed to have targeted him last night, and with multiple people wanting to hang him if he lived a while (namely your predecessor) it didn't seem at all like a kill scum would make.

[Dunnstral]

Ninja-
I don’t think so, Dunn, that doesn’t look like a S/S reaction abd I feel like Mara would be too proud to let cabd coach her on it

The retraction also came out after White Fire said they had a mech reason to think they were lying

[Dwlee99]

Why are you only responding to my scumread of you and not anyone else?

[Dunnstral]

That is not really a debuff. Has anyone claimed debuffs?

The debuff role thing was also a fake claim

[NDMath]

Why are you only responding to my scumread of you and not anyone else?

You're the person talking to me & I don't feel useful at convincing people to vote mcat.

[Dwlee99]

Why are you only responding to my scumread of you and not anyone else?

You're the person talking to me & I don't feel useful at convincing people to vote mcat.

You're just ignoring what Titus says?

[Titus]

Why aren't you pissed about a mod lie if you're town NDMath?

[Titus]

That is not really a debuff. Has anyone claimed debuffs?

The debuff role thing was also a fake claim

The only thing I struggle with is why does Arte claim a fake guilty on me as scum?

[notscience]

Dunn I could also see them as scum with ircher for ~reasons~

[Dwlee99]

To make my question a little more clear: has anyone claimed to have been debuffed? What do debuffs do typically?

[Dunnstral]

has anyone claimed to have been debuffed?

No

[notscience]

Maras not scum guys

Go ISO her in mylo really quick it’s night and day