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Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 10:41 am
by NanceFloor
Coalition
Selectable only with less than 3 Mafia dead
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Town by majority vote choose a majority group of players (half living players rounded down plus one, equal to power selection threshold) in the game. If all chosen players are town, town immediately win. Otherwise, the game continues into Night phase with no deaths, and the Mafia cannot kill that Night.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 10:46 am
by NanceFloor
Reveal
Choose by majority vote a player. That player’s alignment will be revealed, and will be immune from kills that Night.
I think this would be good to use before 2nd coalition. We probably should have selected that one before veto.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:04 am
by Creature
Ank was widely townread there tbh.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:05 am
by Chemist1422
In post 5101, NanceFloor wrote:Reveal
Choose by majority vote a player. That player’s alignment will be revealed, and will be immune from kills that Night.
I think this would be good to use before 2nd coalition. We probably should have selected that one before veto.
Doesn't TMCK just die tho
Or does their action go through anyway
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:06 am
by Creature
We use reveal after 2nd coalition.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:11 am
by NanceFloor
Well for someone who claims to be so adamantly opposed to killing obvtown, why even mention coalition alternatives to you/PB?
I didn’t, so you offering up me and Sky up, despite that is pinging.
It sounds more like self-pres to me and throwing PB in there, doesn’t change that.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:14 am
by NanceFloor
In post 5103, Chemist1422 wrote: In post 5101, NanceFloor wrote:Reveal
Choose by majority vote a player. That player’s alignment will be revealed, and will be immune from kills that Night.
I think this would be good to use before 2nd coalition. We probably should have selected that one before veto.
Doesn't TMCK just die tho
Or does their action go through anyway
Why would he die? Yeah, that would be the only reason his action could possibly fail.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:18 am
by NanceFloor
In post 5061, Creature wrote: In post 5060, Creature wrote:I don't see RC being scum anymore. I'm pretty sure Ank and I are town.
So if we're going all coalition on veto, it's gonna be Chem + Clem + NF + Sky.
It's very very likely there's only one scum among them though, hence why I oppose the "veto all coalitioners and coalition all non-coalitioners" plan. The outcome should be pretty obvious.
Again, why even mention this? You’re either opposed to this or you’re not.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:19 am
by Moongrass
Reveal allows an NK. Protect would be better. I would protect Creature. 1 in 4 allows an NK too so I guess Coalition or veto are the best repicks tonight.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:24 am
by NanceFloor
In post 5108, Moongrass wrote:Reveal allows an NK. Protect would be better. I would protect Creature. 1 in 4 allows an NK too so I guess Coalition or veto are the best repicks tonight.
Why would you protect Creature over repicker or anyone else for that matter?
Why tf would we want to repick veto again?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:41 am
by Moongrass
Protect won't work on non-vanilla. Veto because I've realised that there aren't other events that will help us PoE without an NK. Like protect is great but it doesn't tell us anything. So if we have to repick tonight it will have to be an event we've already done. So the choices would be 8-ball which is no, Dance - maybe but meh, Coalition - safe but likely uninformative, veto - kills off 2 players of our choosing making it easier to PoE. If we went with veto then LHF/scumreads should be chosen for both.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:44 am
by Moongrass
Then once all the scumreads/low posters are gone > 1 of 4 > Reveal > Venge.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:47 am
by NanceFloor
In post 5110, Moongrass wrote:Protect won't work on non-vanilla. Veto because I've realised that there aren't other events that will help us PoE without an NK. Like protect is great but it doesn't tell us anything. So if we have to repick tonight it will have to be an event we've already done. So the choices would be 8-ball which is no, Dance - maybe but meh, Coalition - safe but likely uninformative, veto - kills off 2 players of our choosing making it easier to PoE. If we went with veto then LHF/scumreads should be chosen for both.
Oh right, well why not protect RC or any other consensus then?
We can’t even agree on this veto, so I don’t really see the point to that. I think repicker needs to pick coalition again. 2nd veto just helps scum.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:48 am
by NanceFloor
In post 5112, NanceFloor wrote: In post 5110, Moongrass wrote:Protect won't work on non-vanilla. Veto because I've realised that there aren't other events that will help us PoE without an NK. Like protect is great but it doesn't tell us anything. So if we have to repick tonight it will have to be an event we've already done. So the choices would be 8-ball which is no, Dance - maybe but meh, Coalition - safe but likely uninformative, veto - kills off 2 players of our choosing making it easier to PoE. If we went with veto then LHF/scumreads should be chosen for both.
Oh right, well why not protect RC or any other consensus tr then?
We can’t even agree on this veto, so I don’t really see the point to that. I think repicker needs to pick coalition again. 2nd veto just helps scum.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:59 am
by Moongrass
Yeah I'd rather reveal RC. Sure go coalition again but then who are you going to veto from the coalition? Or are you all going to try and guess who's town again for it?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:09 pm
by Creature
In post 5105, NanceFloor wrote:Well for someone who claims to be so adamantly opposed to killing obvtown, why even mention coalition alternatives to you/PB?
There's still that reason I'm not voting you and Sky in.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:13 pm
by Moongrass
What's more helpful to scum are all the slots we're unsure about so I wouldn't mind being in a second Veto, with other scumreads. I see that as helping town PoE better than the other option if we lose 4 town who are being scumread anyway. Titus' plan is safe but we likely lose 2 town anyway that weren't being scumread. So that just leaves the lynchbait for us to choose from later.
14 minus 4 town = 7 town, 3 scum. Reveal = 6 town, 3 scum after NK So 1 in 4 could give 50% chance to hit scum or spew scum depending on the pool. Assume scum is lynched so 5 town, 2 scum, Protect, then Venge. Or even Quiz if y'all think you have it at that stage.
Imagine doing the later events with TD, Chemist, Me, Clemency still in the game.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:22 pm
by Moongrass
The second veto should be the two surviving plus me plus another scumread/LHF player.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:23 pm
by Creature
You considering repicking veto over coalition?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:26 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 5114, Moongrass wrote:Yeah I'd rather reveal RC. Sure go coalition again but then who are you going to veto from the coalition? Or are you all going to try and guess who's town again for it?
That was what veto was supposed to help us with.
Why hasn’t Clem posted anything yet?
@mod, please prod Clemency
. Thanks.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:27 pm
by Moongrass
I think it's better for the long game. We just have to agree on bottom 6 reads and let scum clean it up for us.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:27 pm
by NanceFloor
In post 5115, Creature wrote: In post 5105, NanceFloor wrote:Well for someone who claims to be so adamantly opposed to killing obvtown, why even mention coalition alternatives to you/PB?
There's still that reason I'm not voting you and Sky in.
I’m not voting Maria, so who should I switch you with?
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:28 pm
by Moongrass
I see no point in repicking coalition unless we win which seems unlikely tbh.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:29 pm
by Creature
In post 5121, NanceFloor wrote: In post 5115, Creature wrote: In post 5105, NanceFloor wrote:Well for someone who claims to be so adamantly opposed to killing obvtown, why even mention coalition alternatives to you/PB?
There's still that reason I'm not voting you and Sky in.
I’m not voting Maria, so who should I switch you with?
I could do chenn tbh.
Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 12:30 pm
by Creature
In post 5122, Moongrass wrote:I see no point in repicking coalition unless we win which seems unlikely tbh.
Yeh, I don't really expect us to win it.