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Post Post #5100 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:19 pm

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it's hard for me to not think of skitter as the same skitter who hard derailed alchemist21 and implo wagons and wouldn't vote laserguy for most of the game in sneks mafia.
What motivation would townRC have for outing who?
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Post Post #5101 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:20 pm

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In post 5095, skitter30 wrote:unvote on promising to read through shos's catchup later, but not following through with that.
Um it’s been like 6 hours. You of all people I would expect to respect real life. Bite me.
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Post Post #5102 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:20 pm

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In post 5094, RadiantCowbells wrote:from my point of view, like, with the sheer density of my townreads on the wagons that aren't RC there literally have to be scum on that wagon
also from a gamestate sense if you take for granted that i'm town doesn't it seem pretty damn likely that at least one scum wants to be voting there

like i can believe that there's at least one scum on the other side who is hard towning me to stay on my good side but like there's also probably scum driving the opposition

and on a personal level if that group is entirely town i just truly don't care if it's a loss, whereas i think that the scum pulling that shit needs to be punished
sorry was this at me ?
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Post Post #5103 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:21 pm

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yes, that was at you, but regarding the wagon on me.
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Post Post #5104 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:22 pm

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like I can't see that entire group being town. I just can't. Not if Shos is scum (counterwagon), and not if Shos is town (avoiding responsibility for a townflip, setting up another lynch)
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Post Post #5105 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:22 pm

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In post 5100, RadiantCowbells wrote:it's hard for me to not think of skitter as the same skitter who hard derailed alchemist21 and implo wagons and wouldn't vote laserguy for most of the game in sneks mafia.
What motivation would townRC have for outing who?
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Uhm Ico said they were a protective? I do not follow.

I am still operating under said theory. Where was this “disproven”?
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Post Post #5106 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:22 pm

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In post 5101, teacher wrote:
In post 5095, skitter30 wrote:unvote on promising to read through shos's catchup later, but not following through with that.
Um it’s been like 6 hours. You of all people I would expect to respect real life. Bite me.
fair enough, sorry
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Post Post #5107 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:23 pm

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And I suppose we keep meeting each other. Sorry for the last ones aggression.

Ari I’m getting better on. I think it’s a play style dissonance dislike of the frivolity, but without 5e RC paranoia it gets better. I’m kinda just willing to sheep you on the meta since my enduring suspicions of you were also focused around RC. Bottom line: out of my Lynch pool, but well below those I feel strongly on.
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Post Post #5108 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:23 pm

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In post 5103, RadiantCowbells wrote:yes, that was at you, but regarding the wagon on me.
i think that rce is town but i do agree that there's significant scum equity in {math/saudade}
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Post Post #5109 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:24 pm

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In post 5100, RadiantCowbells wrote:for outing the fact that a person clearly did not protect you and therefore has no outed claim, I am somehow more scummy than I was before. That is what you're implying?
i'm so confused by this conversation
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Post Post #5110 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:25 pm

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In post 5109, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5100, RadiantCowbells wrote:for outing the fact that a person clearly did not protect you and therefore has no outed claim, I am somehow more scummy than I was before. That is what you're implying?
i'm so confused by this conversation
RC outed earlier that I suspect Ico as the one who saved me last night.

I don’t see the town motivation in that.
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Post Post #5111 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:26 pm

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anyway, I'm not telling you to who to vote and unless NSG both shows up and has a clear scumread I'm just going to end up voting whoever you do for ~town unity~
i'm so confused by this conversation
Mathblade is calling me scum because I pointed out that the thing multiple people assumed was a doc crumb wasn't actually.
RC outed earlier that I suspect Ico as the one who saved me last night.

I don’t see the town motivation in that.
I don't think that anyone saved you, and I think that the idea that there's no town motivation in correcting two slots being falsely assumed inno is staggeringly outlandish.
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Post Post #5112 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:27 pm

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In post 4702, RadiantCowbells wrote:Shade? I'm pointing out that everyone's been assuming you were a protective with an inno on Mathblade when that's not true and it was the main reason to townread both of you.
@Skitter the prior post is Ico’s for context
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Post Post #5113 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:27 pm

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Let’s talk rce because that’s another tow read I have with lingering doubts. Like I’m used to feeling a presence there that I haven’t been. It’s part of why I was surprised they hadn’t tested em. Like I don’t think they have been doing as much of solving in their own way as I’m used to. To be clear - I still feel that’s very very town, just voicing the naggling doubt.
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Post Post #5114 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:28 pm

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that thought crossed my mind yesterday (?) based on the weird mutual townreads

but i don't think ico either did or didn't claim protective. like idk where rc thinks that was disporoven or where ico claimed either
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Post Post #5115 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:28 pm

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@rce why are you voting rc rn ?
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Post Post #5116 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:29 pm

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In post 4675, Iconeum wrote:
In post 4672, RadiantCowbells wrote:When/if I flip town, lynch Mathblade then the lurker pile that I listed.
If you actually flip town, I will consider revisiting my Math read
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Post Post #5117 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:29 pm

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@Skitter just a sec and I will grab it for you since it’s out in the wild now
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Post Post #5118 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:30 pm

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Wait I have a new theory that is still consistent with all of the above. @RC think it through.
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Post Post #5119 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:31 pm

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See that's the kind of thing that you don't bring up in relation to this because it doesn't affect the day game at all
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Post Post #5120 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:32 pm

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Yea. And I was just kidding, it didn’t work in any event - took me like two levels down to see it’s flaw.
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Post Post #5121 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:33 pm

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In post 3343, Iconeum wrote:
In post 3163, MathBlade wrote:I am dealing with Car Stuff

I know everyone is likely pissed at RC but please don’t turbo lynch him while I am getting my car. Thanks!

Whoever is a doc/jailkeep/etc thanks for saving someone. You probably have a guilty or inno.

Back later peoples.

Gut says Ari+Plum+Deep wolf like maybe skitter?
I have thoughts on skitter that I want to fully write out
Remind me that I do, if I don't. Or something :?
In post 3178, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3167, MathBlade wrote:Hey Ari you had two nights to catch up. Reads or die.
Uh, I read almost everyone's Isos and was heavily active upon my return to the thread. What gives you the impression I need to/plan to read the parts of the thread where you played ref to RC and TW bickering on while trying to lynch me?

Also, RC, I told you Ducks was town!
I sooooo want to turbolynch your ass atm but I still townread you so Im going to refrain.
'I want to lynch you so hard right now, but I townread you'. My dude. Are you just scum here?
In post 3185, Aristophanes wrote:"Objectively didn't suck"
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In post 3158, teacher wrote:VOTE: tw

Quack
How exactly did this save his iso? XD
In post 3186, Aristophanes wrote:Like wtf Bella :lol:
This isn't wrong lol :lol:
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In post 3189, RadiantCowbells wrote:I do not think that reading people off of the TW votes is a good idea unless you think that scum were trying to keep Aristophanes alive.
Also someone mentioned this so I'll bring it up: the reason I targeted Teacher was that I thought that he was likely to make the kill if he was scum whereas most other targets were crapshoots.
um there is almost for sure scum on that wagon irregardless of your alignment

if you're scum, well, it's you
if you're town scum took advantage of that shitshow to get a mislynch. i would be shocked if there weren't scum on that wagon in this scenario
i think that looking at the wagon is a great place to look for scum rn
I agree with this. Scum are pretty much guaranteed on this wagon. There's a couple really disgusting votes on it, including Flopz IIRC.
In post 3233, skitter30 wrote:i think i'm the nk most times last night
What?
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In post 3233, skitter30 wrote:i think i'm the nk most times last night
Funny I was thinking I would be. Interesting.

Assume Plum + Ari and not RC? Who’s third? Any thoughts?
I think Math is more likely to be saved then skitter. If anything, Math was pretty much Uni-townread by the end of D1?
SubOptimal Math thinks that RC could be scum here.
In post 3314, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 3312, MathBlade wrote:We should 100% vote who RC did not want us to vote yesterday and the fact a majority of town scumreads Ari is a bonus.


We should 100% vote who RC did not want us to vote yesterday and the fact a majority of town scumreads Ari is a bonus.
dude.

i led the original ari wagon

i literally had him at l-1 then got scared bc nsg wasn't sure he was scum
You mean the Ari wagon that you derailed before it got to a claim/lynch? That wagon?
RC, give me 1 solid reason not to go ham on your ass and follow thru on duck's last quack here.
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Post Post #5122 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:33 pm

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In post 5111, RadiantCowbells wrote:anyway, I'm not telling you to who to vote and unless NSG both shows up and has a clear scumread I'm just going to end up voting whoever you do for ~town unity~
i'm debating if i want to stay on shos or if i want to wagon math

i think i would want to wagon math but i don't want to deal with the bickering/infighting i'm p sure would ensue

if i'm being honest i'm still in a bit of a funk and that is at least in part coloring this / determinign how much energy i can bring towards that rn
(i hope i'll snap out of it in a day or two, i usually do ... )
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Post Post #5123 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:35 pm

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Ok but it's no longer relevant because Ico has clearly expressed that he doesn't have an inno on you

and you're not considering Saud at all?
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Post Post #5124 (ISO) » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:35 pm

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ok actually i would rather be stabbing myself than posting in this game right now so if you're also not into it i'm just going to bail
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