Ideally, just to appease supersaint paranoia, it should be a volunteer from the players that're loosely in the suspect pool, e.g. Spiffeh, Toogeloo (good luck on that one though), maybe someone who we think is town but is possible to be scum which others have fingered (e.g. Solstice, Ydrasse).
But coordinating that might be more trouble than it's worth especially if the designated volunteer doesn't want to actually follow through.
In post 4848, Solstice wrote:[Sigh didn't think of that, should have just thought of it it like an informed townie, claimed it immediately, and leashed every hammer to the scummiest player, probably. Didn't think about it enough clearly]
Also Spiffeh, I feel like I'm the only player that thinks this is a red flag.
Can you elaborate on this? Because why you think they’re lying about their claim?
In post 4756, Solstice wrote:[I thought it was really jokey. If Ydrasses' scumteam killed Hectic, I think she'd be practically obligated to do that bit. It's not like it was her choice to kill him]
you mean she wasn't really shaking ?!
I bet money that it I were to say that you wouldn’t believe me right?
I probably shouldn’t have posted this but I’m really kind of rolling my eyes that Pooky trs Ydrase for this but I think if I posted something similar, I’m not sure he would, so I’m kind’ve salty about that.
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:07 pm
by Double the Trouble
Gloria malding
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:11 pm
by mastina
In post 4850, Solstice wrote:[If you wanted to sacrifice him this is probably how you'd do it.
~Morning
I mean.
DEB-scum sacrificing himself to take out someone who was probably going down today or tomorrow anyway?
Not impossible, although obviously by necessity what happened if Dunn flips town here.
More likely is either DEB town with a genuine guilty or DEB scum faking a guilty on a scumbuddy. Either way, Dunnstral's a pretty sure bet at being scum.
I think DEB seems on the level so probably Dunn. Only DEB if the results aren’t legit. Why would I want to kill DEB if Dunn flips scum? Toog yes but probably vote Dunn since DEB’s case looked pretty legit. I’m no longer townreading Ydrasse and she expects to be townread because of Hectic but she’s ignoring his read on me and being really sketchy about the answers. Oh and @Pooky, if you dare if me shit for doubting Ydrasse’s reaction than eventhough I adore you, it still would then make you a goddamned hypocrite.
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:17 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 5028, Ydrasse wrote:noraa’s wim as scum was disgustingly powerful and she almost swept it away, was hard townread by everyone for a long time, etc
In post 5029, Ydrasse wrote:it was only at the end that she kinda crumbled under pressure
Yeah but you were townreading us before so what changed? Your switch on us seems suspiciously convenient.
In post 5028, Ydrasse wrote:noraa’s wim as scum was disgustingly powerful and she almost swept it away, was hard townread by everyone for a long time, etc
In post 5029, Ydrasse wrote:it was only at the end that she kinda crumbled under pressure
Yeah but you were townreading us before so what changed? Your switch on us seems suspiciously convenient.
1500 posts from scum Noraa and extremely high WIM.
I’ve got to ask why so many people in this game don’t seem to have any opinion on my posts? Maybe DT but I almost feel like I’m not even in the game at times because so many people keep referring to our slot as “Noraa”.
In post 4850, Solstice wrote:[If you wanted to sacrifice him this is probably how you'd do it.
~Morning
I mean.
DEB-scum sacrificing himself to take out someone who was probably going down today or tomorrow anyway?
Not impossible, although obviously by necessity what happened if Dunn flips town here.
More likely is either DEB town with a genuine guilty or DEB scum faking a guilty on a scumbuddy. Either way, Dunnstral's a pretty sure bet at being scum.
[I think all of Dunn/Toog/Spiffeh/mayyyybe Polar could be considered players who were potentially going down anyway, so its a big pool. You're right that Dunn isn't really a priority, but had Dr Easy picked mastina/Ircher it'd have been a lot more likely we just don't believe him. And if Dr Easy was going to have to be killed for his claim at some point, then it makes sense to claim a guilty and try to get the vig]
[Of course, maybe DEB gets away with staying alive for a while, so maybe scum doesn't make that play. so i prefer the safe play of removing Dunn first anyway]
[If Dr Easy is scum guiltying his teammate, isn't that just completely game-losing?]
~Morning
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:20 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 5081, Double the Trouble wrote:Also guys if mafia does have a supersaint, we should be playing around a hated supersaint.
just letting ywall know that, at least I am going to play around that.
Then I'll vote at L-2, Unvote, and then hammer all elims going forward.
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:21 pm
by mastina
In post 4878, Double the Trouble wrote:DEB has so low towncred atm that i almost prefer it if we just ignore their 1v1 with Dunn in favour of eliminating an higher threat such as Spiffeh. And then at night we can have the vig shoot either of DEB/Dunn and if whoever dies flips town we know for sure that the other one is scum.
- Norwee
I mean.
A minimum of one scum with a chance of two sounds like it's a juicy deal--and if DEB is town and Dunn is scum, as long as Dunn survives DEB cannot get another guilty result.
But if you insist on a slightly less-optimal play in eliminating a player who's scum outside of the guaranteed-one-scum-minimum: that'd be Toogeloo, who I am actually currently voting.
In post 5081, Double the Trouble wrote:Also guys if mafia does have a supersaint, we should be playing around a hated supersaint.
just letting ywall know that, at least I am going to play around that.
Then I'll vote at L-2, Unvote, and then hammer all elims going forward.
Can we get some salutes in the chat for our boi toogeloo
o7
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:22 pm
by Dunnstral
He's expecting the rest to elim Spiffeh while I'm dead
In post 4568, Spiffeh wrote:Because myself and Polar Bears seem to be some of your most desired targets and I'm town and Polar Bears is the most obvtown player in the game
town: mastina (with an asterisk to think about if she's still around endgame and we're struggling to find mafia), solstice, ircher, deb barring any role shenanigans
scum: polar bear express,
toogeloo, spiffeh, maybe dunnstral
[I find it funny these two's lists are inverses of each other, even up to both having Dunn as a "maybe". It's probably not important but i still thought it interesting]
[Anyway here's what i was curious about]
Spoiler: Ydrasse on Polarbear
In post 4525, Ydrasse wrote:oh no... oh no no no polar bear express no.... what are you doing sweetie......
In post 4526, Ydrasse wrote:i'm just going to pretend i don't see these posts... *smiles sweetly*
town: mastina (with an asterisk to think about if she's still around endgame and we're struggling to find mafia), solstice, ircher, deb barring any role shenanigans
, what exactly did you find scummy about Polarbears?]
~Morning
This is actually a really good observation I like this a lot
Yes she does a complete 180 on us, refuses to explain why, do I think If Ydrasse had a real reason to suddenly switch her read on us, she’d have already given it.
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:26 pm
by Ydrasse
no i wouldn’t have
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:27 pm
by Spiffeh
Ydrasse please stop making me doubt my solve by seeming town
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:28 pm
by Polar Bear Express
So while I st Toog for the Creature comment jumping off of Bell twice, his progression on our slot actually is a lot better than Ydrasse’s so probably wrong on one of them.
In post 5028, Ydrasse wrote:noraa’s wim as scum was disgustingly powerful and she almost swept it away, was hard townread by everyone for a long time, etc
In post 5029, Ydrasse wrote:it was only at the end that she kinda crumbled under pressure
Yeah but you were townreading us before so what changed? Your switch on us seems suspiciously convenient.
isn't this what you posted that time you were scum?
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:28 pm
by Ydrasse
In post 5116, Spiffeh wrote:Ydrasse please stop making me doubt my solve by seeming town
In post 5028, Ydrasse wrote:noraa’s wim as scum was disgustingly powerful and she almost swept it away, was hard townread by everyone for a long time, etc
In post 5029, Ydrasse wrote:it was only at the end that she kinda crumbled under pressure
Yeah but you were townreading us before so what changed? Your switch on us seems suspiciously convenient.
isn't this what you posted that time you were scum?
In post 5028, Ydrasse wrote:noraa’s wim as scum was disgustingly powerful and she almost swept it away, was hard townread by everyone for a long time, etc
In post 5029, Ydrasse wrote:it was only at the end that she kinda crumbled under pressure
Yeah but you were townreading us before so what changed? Your switch on us seems suspiciously convenient.
isn't this what you posted that time you were scum?
Ydrasse’s read switch on us makes no sense and the longer she continues to stall with this, the more I doubt my initial read on her.
In post 4568, Spiffeh wrote:Because myself and Polar Bears seem to be some of your most desired targets and I'm town and Polar Bears is the most obvtown player in the game
town: mastina (with an asterisk to think about if she's still around endgame and we're struggling to find mafia), solstice, ircher, deb barring any role shenanigans
scum: polar bear express,
toogeloo, spiffeh, maybe dunnstral
[I find it funny these two's lists are inverses of each other, even up to both having Dunn as a "maybe". It's probably not important but i still thought it interesting]
[Anyway here's what i was curious about]
Spoiler: Ydrasse on Polarbear
In post 4525, Ydrasse wrote:oh no... oh no no no polar bear express no.... what are you doing sweetie......
In post 4526, Ydrasse wrote:i'm just going to pretend i don't see these posts... *smiles sweetly*
town: mastina (with an asterisk to think about if she's still around endgame and we're struggling to find mafia), solstice, ircher, deb barring any role shenanigans
, what exactly did you find scummy about Polarbears?]
~Morning
This is actually a really good observation I like this a lot
Yes she does a complete 180 on us, refuses to explain why, do I think If Ydrasse had a real reason to suddenly switch her read on us, she’d have already given it.
What do you expect from her if she's town?
Like her reads are like
{DT, Creature, Murder}
{Solstice, Ircher, DEB}
{mastina}
{Toogeloo, Spiffeh, Polar Bears}
{Dunn}
I feel like if {Spiffeh Dunn Polar Bears Toogeloo} had 3 scum and the 1 town was flipped she would naturally just conclude that you're scum naturally like what do you want this player to do lol
