Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[MathBlade]

That’s why one active (RC) one mid level (Skitter or you) and one mid/low

I agree with this theory, in terms of posting/teams.

OK, since everyone has outed the theory of Ico being protective, I'll acknowledge thats part of it.
Now, add RC's catch about Ico not having a clear on you. Because that is clearly what Ico said.
Add them up. Thats the maths part.

I am going to reread that section again because maybe I missed something here

[teacher]

How can a protective not have a clear when there is no death (and everybody but RC agrees a kill was surpassingly likely to be attempted).

[MathBlade]

How can a protective not have a clear when there is no death (and everybody but RC agrees a kill was surpassingly likely to be attempted).

Oh jailkeeper lol

Good thing I am VT.

Mentioned I was a plain boy a while back lol.

Wow I am dense.

XD

Excuse me while I go find me some facepalms

[MathBlade]

Ari are you legitimately telling us that ND and Auto don't have a list of their reads for you to start from?

I mean, they gave me a lot of quotes they wanted shared at you in particular, but no, I didn't request any reads or "starting posts" from them so none were provided, though they did offer.

So you’re scum.

You said you’re incapable of playing the game due to time restraints.
Yet you don’t ask your buddies to help with reads.

Did you think you’d be able to suck up reads via casting a spell?

I am a pretty plain guy and my guess is you don’t have any level 9 wish spells in your repitoire.

Explain to me how this is a town position and you’re not scum.

Rip

I am so dumb. I was just so happy and thought I was on the right track and stuff.

Fml.

Like I am almost never the kill. Like all the townreads + no death.

Now I feel like a deflated whoopie cushion.

[teacher]

Now you see RC's town motivation in outing the catch? Because everyone was playing around it like it was a clear (because the crumbs were pretty f'ing loaves), when it wasnt, and it helped town to have better knowledge.

Now, youre slightly more likely to be a kept killer, than killee. But against that, I have to weigh the fact that you were a uni-town read (whom it made sense to keep), and RC is alive as an unprotected claimed detective when he is known as a fearsome townplayer even without the PR (but, of course, scum could have expected him to be auto-lynched today). So Im at the point where its unlikely both you and RC are TvT, and I find his solve efforts more impressive, tbh. I just have to check if they are motivated to get rid of the person that could be conf!town D3/D4.

[MathBlade]

well, i've been focusing on you so far, but I have developed some reads on others. It's not like i can sort everyone in the first couple hours of the game.

Again. That didn’t answer the question. Let’s try a new approach. What reads have you developed?

I don’t think anyone has solved the game yet and solving it this early would be ludicrous.

They can fuckin take my ice cream if anyone has solved it this early.

My other crumb.

Vanilla is an ice cream flavor.

*sigh* today is not my day.

Can we clone Ico to save Ico?

Pedit yeah I understand now.

I humbly apologize for being an idiot.

[MathBlade]

Now you see RC's town motivation in outing the catch? Because everyone was playing around it like it was a clear (because the crumbs were pretty f'ing loaves), when it wasnt, and it helped town to have better knowledge.

Now, youre slightly more likely to be a kept killer, than killee. But against that, I have to weigh the fact that you were a uni-town read (whom it made sense to keep), and RC is alive as an unprotected claimed detective when he is known as a fearsome townplayer even without the PR (but, of course, scum could have expected him to be auto-lynched today). So Im at the point where its unlikely both you and RC are TvT, and I find his solve efforts more impressive, tbh. I just have to check if they are motivated to get rid of the person that could be conf!town D3/D4.

Not really. While it wasn’t a lock the time to mention it was D3 if Ico wasn’t shot.

Mainly I think it does more damage than harm but that’s not a black and white it’s more a reaaaaaally dark grey where I disagree but it’s not so black as conf!scum

[MathBlade]

Now you see RC's town motivation in outing the catch? Because everyone was playing around it like it was a clear (because the crumbs were pretty f'ing loaves), when it wasnt, and it helped town to have better knowledge.

Now, youre slightly more likely to be a kept killer, than killee. But against that, I have to weigh the fact that you were a uni-town read (whom it made sense to keep), and RC is alive as an unprotected claimed detective when he is known as a fearsome townplayer even without the PR (but, of course, scum could have expected him to be auto-lynched today). So Im at the point where its unlikely both you and RC are TvT, and I find his solve efforts more impressive, tbh. I just have to check if they are motivated to get rid of the person that could be conf!town D3/D4.

If my solve efforts are impressive I am probably scum lol.

I suck at communicating reads in a clear way.

[teacher]

It got oddly silent now.

[MathBlade]

It got oddly silent now.

I know that’s weird.

I expected RC to at least go “ha ha” told you Math was an idiot. :/

[Bellaphant]

Considering both Rc and maths assumed they were the night kill, I think assuming a jk makes more sense than like a doc?

[MathBlade]

Considering both Rc and maths assumed they were the night kill, I think assuming a jk makes more sense than like a doc?

RC assumed no kill and had a result.

What would help to resolve this I am not sure if it is antitown or protown to ask.

I assumed I was the intended NK and it was me and Ico in crumb I believe confirmed (cited my reason earlier)

Hence I really wanted RC and Ari.

I still really do but mainly I think RC is more likely than Ari atm and I hope BB Molla and Titus agree with me rather than keep screaming lynch Ari.

[MathBlade]

Well claimed to have a result*

Which if RC is scum teacher is probably town because of that unless he’s doing expert level wine here

[MathBlade]

The main problem is for it to be an inno Ico has to claim what he is.

And I don’t know if that will hurt or help.

Because if he is a doctor/not jailkeep then I am inno but then what next?

Will RC make the thread hell?

Is me being inno worth the risk of scum knowing what they can and can’t fake claim their actions to be? Or how to get around it?

Like that’s what’s running through my head and all options suck.

[MathBlade]

What sucks is the mechanically right play if I am inno is Ari but I am not feeling it even though BB and Titus are last we spoke.

My brain feels like word vomit

[teacher]

Im doing my Ari read through, since Im hitting a wall in Math/RC right now and a bit braindead. I came across a kinda weird stance in RCE's posting.

Correct me if Im wrong, but hes dead set on RC's lynch today (3748, 5022)

He's dead set that if RC is scum, Im his partner. (1724, 1732, 3750, 3774)

And he reads me as town (910, 1732, 4603)

Because that adds up to terrible positioning and logic?

[MathBlade]

I am stuck in a mechanical loop that RC/Skitter/Ari has two but not three scum in it.

@Bella who are your scumreads atm?

[MathBlade]

I am stuck in a mechanical loop that RC/Skitter/Ari has two but not three scum in it.

@Bella who are your scumreads atm?

Not based on mechanics it’s a phrase for clarity

[MathBlade]

Im doing my Ari read through, since Im hitting a wall in Math/RC right now and a bit braindead. I came across a kinda weird stance in RCE's posting.

Correct me if Im wrong, but hes dead set on RC's lynch today (3748, 5022)

He's dead set that if RC is scum, Im his partner. (1724, 1732, 3750, 3774)

And he reads me as town (910, 1732, 4603)

Because that adds up to terrible positioning and logic?

Can you repost that with tags please like? I am on mobile and it’s hard af to search and find posts.1000

And it depends. Sometimes people consider multiple worlds or he overall townreads you but if RC is scum your stock goes down. The context of the posts helps.

[Bellaphant]

I thought rcs result was just that teacher didn't kill, not that teacher wasn't scum?

[MathBlade]

I thought rcs result was just that teacher didn't kill, not that teacher wasn't scum?

In order to get a result you have to not be jailkept.

RC got a result therefore could not be jailkept.

[MathBlade]

That’s also why it’s wine.

If RC is scum scum usually (but not always) don’t claim checks on partners.

[teacher]

Im doing my Ari read through, since Im hitting a wall in Math/RC right now and a bit braindead. I came across a kinda weird stance in RCE's posting.

Correct me if Im wrong, but hes dead set on RC's lynch today (3748, 5022)

He's dead set that if RC is scum, Im his partner. (1724, 1732, 3750, 3774)

And he reads me as town (910, 1732, 4603)

Because that adds up to terrible positioning and logic?

Can you repost that with tags please like? I am on mobile and it’s hard af to search and find posts.1000

And it depends. Sometimes people consider multiple worlds or he overall townreads you but if RC is scum your stock goes down. The context of the posts helps.

It is clear he overall townreads me, but considers me like a lock partner to scum!RC if RC scum. Which is why I think the lynch RC stance is odd. It is defensible/appears reasonable given yesterday, and the conflict is only latent (hence the number of posts, and why I only caught it now, as Im doing the multi-tab thing), but I would think given the strength of his stated partner read, that the read on me would lessen his thirst for RC's blood.

[teacher]

I thought rcs result was just that teacher didn't kill, not that teacher wasn't scum?

That is correct. I did not kill last night (was the result, but its a gray check since there was no kill).

[MathBlade]

Brb I need some time to handle some stuff and look at those posts in depth.