In post 3087, NDMath wrote:Willing to full clear Mark off the mafia cop.
...but mafia knew they had a cop
So saying a miller claim is clear because of what a mafia member flipped is using bad reasoning
Putting a miller in to mess with mafia cop is the most setup-designer thing ever.
And "I'll claim miller so I get townread if my cop partner dies before me" isn't really something scum would think of?
In post 5123, Nero Cain wrote:as much as I want CABD I have to afmit that math not coloring himself green is p bad. Is he new to the site?
I don't comprehend why that is a problem?
Like the purpose of the votecounts was to convince other people to vote or move towards a cabd elim, and other people don't have me as mech town. If I had colored myself green the first thing people would have done is look at the votecounts pretending I was neutral-colored.
In post 5121, Anastasia wrote:NDMath's entire ISO is 18 posts and he doesn't vote for a scum ever
Your entire ISO is 260 posts and you haven't voted a flipped scum either??
In post 5122, Anastasia wrote:He also pops in at opportunistic times to place votes/talk.
It's like he's following along and just doing shady stuff.
Whereas Cabd is just not playing for whatever reason.
I want examples of "opportunistic times".
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 4:25 pm
by Anastasia
Your pop-ins are to place votes specifically at key points to push a player at key junctures.
You don't display a consistent thread presence where people can see you trying to figure out the game.
This suggests you are keeping up with the thread and choosing to engage only when you have the opportunity to push a mis-elim.
You do not proactively solve the game, you only pop in to make pushes on people who have a chance of getting killed.
I believe if we flip you, you will be red and that might spew Cabd as town.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:30 pm
by samantha97
VOTE: anastasia
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:04 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 5160, NDMath wrote:I don't comprehend why that is a problem?
Like the purpose of the votecounts was to convince other people to vote or move towards a cabd elim, and other people don't have me as mech town. If I had colored myself green the first thing people would have done is look at the votecounts pretending I was neutral-colored.
There's a debate about whether or not one should I oneself to his or her reads. Though in a WWE game awhile back there was a guy that didn't have himself as his highest townread and he flipped scum and not having yourself as your own town read is p similar to that.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:08 pm
by Nero Cain
but TBF I have flipped town for ^ reason too so....
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:24 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 5142, Vasex wrote:Enough. Rathe and Xp sred Anastasia
VOTE: Anastasia
while it's not impossible that rathe had correct reads I think Occams just says that 1 of ratheblood or andre was going to die anyways since they are the claimed prs.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:36 pm
by Nero Cain
VOTE: Cabd
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:50 pm
by Anastasia
it's fairly obvious I am town if you look at the actual things I've done in this game.
For example I hard-defended Enchant from Vasex/XP who were pushing to elim him.
As a result the wagon swung back into T3 and killed him.
Does it make sense for me to do that if I am scum?
On D2 I sheeped Kerset because he was right about T3.
On D3 I unvoted Windows when he got to E-1 to try to get clarity.
You can't really look at what I've done and find a scum motivated set of actions.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:52 pm
by Nero Cain
what do you think of CABD scum reading you and y is ndmath a better vote than him?
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:54 pm
by Anastasia
I think NDMath is scum because his content is very selective and not much of it is based on townreading people.
I don't really care about Cabd's scumread on me because it's for meta-reasons that are awful but I can possibly believe they exist in his head if he really just doesn't feel like playing this game.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 6:59 pm
by Vasex
Ugh, i dont know, i can vote ndmath and cabd. Protecting enchant, if he is town, is a good point.
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 7:00 pm
by Vasex
Because t3 had some votes there already
Tge problem is if enchant is with ana and t3
Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 7:02 pm
by Anastasia
The townreads he does make feel truncated in a way that feels unnatural.
The votes he does make feel oppurtunistic -
He is reading along but the way he pops in doesn't feel like someone who is interested in solving the game.