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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:30 am
by Narninian
It does and I don't think its particularly helpful to speculate on future night actions.
Past actions... sure.. future ones no.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:34 am
by House
Narninian wrote:It does and I don't think its particularly helpful to speculate on future night actions.
Past actions... sure.. future ones no.


But I -am- speculating on past night actions, unless you are suggesting all cop claims happened toDay.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:43 am
by Narninian
I guess I'm lost then - you were talking about scum not killing cops...

marquis
house
boonskies
magua
deathfisaro
Copper
Jackel

are the cop claims

Jackel was lynched (and very well could have been a scum led wagon)
Marquis was double killed (We don't know if both of them targetted marquis because at least 1 did)
Copper was killed

Ozgin/House claimed to be bulletproof
Magua was but I don't think they claimed

Death and Boonskies claimed today.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:48 am
by Narninian
left out some words
*Marquis was double killed (We don't know if both of them targeted marquis because of the redirect possibility but at least 1 did, maybe 2)

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:50 am
by Titus
This conversation is not helpful. Can we lynch please?

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:52 am
by Narninian
ok, I guess I can't stick to BBMolla

VOTE: Oranj Crush

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:29 pm
by elusive
Why are you voting Oranje Crush? Reasoning?

Why can't you stick to BBMolla?

Oranje Crush has claimed Amnesiac Commuter, isn't commuter usually either a town role or an sk role?

Then, BBMolla has claimed miller + nightskip. Why do you find this slot scummy?

As in is it play or role or a combination? Why are you voting where you are voting? TY

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:35 pm
by BBmolla
elusive wrote:Oranje Crush has claimed Amnesiac Commuter, isn't commuter usually either a town role or an sk role?

Not even remotely? It's not alignment indicative.

Oranje's claim is still bogus, their play is literally Bro saving face then disappearing when people stop mentioning them. They're scum.

If we could lynch them instead of AD, I'd be so happy

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:36 pm
by BBmolla
My nightskip works by me being the second leading wagon, I think he was trying to trigger that

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:38 pm
by Narninian
BBmolla wrote:My nightskip works by me being the second leading wagon, I think he was trying to trigger that


This is correct. I was trying to stick to him to trigger, but there is no activity at all, and it seems like a lot of the people on the biggest wagon (action dan) are not pushing it anymore because they're being replaced

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:44 pm
by House
Narninian wrote:
BBmolla wrote:My nightskip works by me being the second leading wagon, I think he was trying to trigger that


This is correct. I was trying to stick to him to trigger, but there is no activity at all, and it seems like a lot of the people on the biggest wagon (action dan) are not pushing it anymore because they're being replaced


VOTE: Narninian

That's not at ask why his wagon lost steam.

I swear dude, every post you make just screams for me to vote you.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:45 pm
by House
Not at all*

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:50 pm
by elusive
BBmolla wrote:My nightskip works by me being the second leading wagon, I think he was trying to trigger that


Can you expand on this read or at least quote any former posts you made about it? I will ISO you and Oranje tomorrow or Wednesday when I have time.

Also, has there been any night skips yet?

Nights benefit mafia and sk who can kill but skipping night hampers town investigative role(s) of which we probably only have one and the other are either fake claim or mafia role cop type thing.

It seems to be like skipping night is actually quite beneficial to town? Or why hasn't there been a night skip yet? Is there some limit on the number of night skips?

Also, I wonder why mafia wouldn't kill you yet if in theory at least night skip destroys their chance of doing anything and they have to rely solely on talking their way out of lynches. Why haven't we night skipped more often?

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:54 pm
by Narninian
it only can happen once --- we didn't do it earlier because

Night 1) there wasn't enough information yet to take advantage of 2 day phases
Night 2) Ozgin/House claimed to be bulletproof for one night

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:55 pm
by Narninian
Also Mafia *might* have tried to kill BBMolla night 1.
I did target him with my redirect. (we don't know if it actually redirected the kill though)

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:01 pm
by elusive
Cuttlefish wrote:

Spoiler: Dead
10.
Jackel98
-
Town Public Tracker
- Lynched day one.

17.
Never-melt-ice
Marquis
-
Town New Kid on the Block
- Eviscerated and incinerated night one.

2.
Pirate Ika
-
Berlin Undercity Mafia Modified Roleblocker
- Shot through the heart day two.

24.
Dani
Lihin
-
Town Double Day Foreman
- Lynched day two.

19.
Soren
Magua
-
Town Forgetful Watcher
- Nuked from orbit day two.

26.
copper223
-
Town Facebooker
- Eviscerated night two.

20.
VysePresident
-
Tropical Volcano Lair Mafia ???
- Incinerated night two.



Actually based on the dead list:
2 Town Lynched Day

1 Scum Shot\Vigged Day
1 Town Nuked Day

3 Town (1 Double Killed) Night

So all the night kills have been mafia\sk or town targets. Day kills have been 1 scum death to 1 town death.

Narnian, ok that makes sense. So BBMolla ability seems pro-town based on just kills so far.

BBMolla if its one use that means you have to be lynched to use it or ?

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:11 pm
by Narninian
1 of the 'day kills' was lucian's 1 shot kill which he used to kill an outed scum, Lucian talked about using it day 1 as a second lynch but people were against that.
The other "day" kill happened after the lynch - its almost certainly from scum or SK. The downside of double days is if "nuked from orbit" is a recurring daykill. The fact that it didn't trigger day 1 might mean its a delayed night kill though.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:12 pm
by BBmolla
elusive wrote:BBMolla if its one use that means you have to be lynched to use it or ?

I have to be runner up to the person lynched for it to activate.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:59 pm
by deathfisaro
elusive wrote:
Cuttlefish wrote:

Spoiler: Dead
10.
Jackel98
-
Town Public Tracker
- Lynched day one.

17.
Never-melt-ice
Marquis
-
Town New Kid on the Block
- Eviscerated and incinerated night one.

2.
Pirate Ika
-
Berlin Undercity Mafia Modified Roleblocker
- Shot through the heart day two.

24.
Dani
Lihin
-
Town Double Day Foreman
- Lynched day two.

19.
Soren
Magua
-
Town Forgetful Watcher
- Nuked from orbit day two.

26.
copper223
-
Town Facebooker
- Eviscerated night two.

20.
VysePresident
-
Tropical Volcano Lair Mafia ???
- Incinerated night two.



Actually based on the dead list:
2 Town Lynched Day

1 Scum
B
Shot\Vigged Day
1 Town Nuked Day

3 Town (1 Double Killed) Night
2 Town (1 Double Killed) 1 ScumV Night

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:36 pm
by Bulbasaur Commonwealth
LucianRoy wrote:No, my point is that I want House and me to be on the same train at the end of the day. He's my strongest townread, and it would much better if we worked together, rather than have our own separate lynchs.

That isn't really an answer.

I get that you want to be on the same page as him, but...that doesn't preclude doing your own thing? I mean, wouldn't doing the opposite of him actually spawn more conversation sometimes than just following him (well-reasoned or not)?

Narninian wrote:and it seems like a lot of the people on the biggest wagon (action dan) are not pushing it anymore because they're being replaced

...No?

Actually, most of the hang-ups about the wagon in the first place were because he was lurking and in the process of being replaced (and presumably still is), thus not a factor in why it was pushed, so...what?

Elusive, I don't really get why you're asking the questions you are.

-Ivy

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:53 pm
by LucianRoy
Elusive is probably still planting her feet in the ground.

Don't feel like action Dan anymore.
VOTE: Unvote

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:53 pm
by LucianRoy
Whoops.

UNVOTE:

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:43 pm
by Boonskiies
I should probably go V/LA. I'm in dress rehearsal for my show, opening this weekend, and after we open, it should be much easier. I'm going to V/LA until 4/17. My hectic life will be becoming less hectic soon.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:52 pm
by Oranje Crush
Sorry, I've been focused on other games (TM2015) and need to finish the catch-up. BRO's vanished so I need to go find him.
~wgeurts

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:22 am
by Narninian
Titus wrote:Ugh this day has lasted too long...