Gameshow Mafia (Reroll): Game Over

[NanceFloor]

I'm just about done with Shoshin sry

I’m really sorry to hear that, she would have been a dream as IC.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also I'm not a fan of browbeating tmck out of the game

nsg or riot

[Skygazer]

what about the worst

[Pink Ball]

I really think vetoing the LHFs from the coalition is the best way to get this game going. Titus is right, her plan is cool, let's follow it and move on. (I don't think I'm a LHF but I repped in the last and that makes me less useful than the rest)

But I think you’re town. I hard townread you, Sky and RC and I don’t want you to die :/. I also think Moon is scum. The only non-lhf in the coalition that I am less confident on is Creature.

So, is 3 coalition members I’m not hard townreading + my strongest sr a bad compromise?

It doesn't matter if you think I'm town, the chance of catching the whole scumteam in the veto is really low; I would even say impossible 'cause there must be scum outside the previous coalition. But it's forcing the scumteam to kill slots that are better solved by flipping than other ways. We have to leave our own scumreads aside and get rid of stinky slots. Also, mechanically speaking, what Titus is proposing will eventually solve those scumreads. Now's not the time

[RadiantCowbells]

PB I don't understand how you advocate in good faith not clearing the coalition when you think that I'm scum

If we veto up the coalition list I'm eventually gonna be cornered. If not, you have to catch both scum while having no leverage to prevent me from derailing lynches on my buddies.

That's why I think you're scum by the way

Moongrass too is just coming up with reason after reason to not give me coalition and not really contributing anything else

[RadiantCowbells]

the worst is The Worst possible candidate for the position

[NanceFloor]

Also I'm not a fan of browbeating tmck out of the game

nsg or riot

I wasn’t trying to do that. He already replaced out. I just wanted him to stop pushing terrible reads on us.

[NanceFloor]

Yeah, nsg would be awesome.

[RadiantCowbells]

I wouldn't mind seeing FA either

[RadiantCowbells]

Every lose condition I can think of

is something that gets way easier to solve by dealing with the coalition situation today

[RadiantCowbells]

Vetoing a bunch of scummy players is Feels good but not actually optimal at all

Like if there's no scum townier than Chemist/Clemency are we losing this game ever

Whereas if there is, then we need as many phases as possible to deal with ir

I also don't want to feed scum a free creature kill b/c if this is a hard game then we really want him alive

Like if we can clear 2 scum and 1 of 4 I see that argument but I dunno

[NanceFloor]

PB I don't understand how you advocate in good faith not clearing the coalition when you think that I'm scum

If we veto up the coalition list I'm eventually gonna be cornered. If not, you have to catch both scum while having no leverage to prevent me from derailing lynches on my buddies.

That's why I think you're scum by the way

Moongrass too is just coming up with reason after reason to not give me coalition and not really contributing anything else

You really think scum!PB would risk being vetoed? Agree on Moon obviously. Pushing 2nd veto over 2nd coalition, just reads like a way to kill more townies without any reason.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you're scum why not make a show of being willing to be vetoed? It's not like you're going to kill yourself

[NanceFloor]

Creature is pinging me a bit with his Moon tr, Maria sr and his saying he’d be okay with me and Sky being vetoed over him/PB - after he made just a big deal about not having 4 coalition members in veto.

[NanceFloor]

If you're scum why not make a show of being willing to be vetoed? It's not like you're going to kill yourself

I guess so, I didn’t really think of that. His tone sounds pure to me though, plus he didn’t seem to have a clue about any of the mechanical stuff when he replaced in.

Also as I’ve said, I read his and Moon’s interactions as anti-partnery.

Well if PB wants it and the majority is onboard with it, I guess I’ll vote there over veto failing.

[Pink Ball]

PB I don't understand how you advocate in good faith not clearing the coalition when you think that I'm scum

If we veto up the coalition list I'm eventually gonna be cornered. If not, you have to catch both scum while having no leverage to prevent me from derailing lynches on my buddies.

That's why I think you're scum by the way

Moongrass too is just coming up with reason after reason to not give me coalition and not really contributing anything else

?

I don't think you're scum. I clearly stated that my scumread on you was conditional to my NanceFloor scumread, which I flipped after Nancy's reaction to my scumread. So now I changed the approach and I'm happy with being part of the veto. It would be pretty cool if you stopped calling me scum when I'm pretty obvtown, you're not helping your own slot.

[Pink Ball]

I'm not acting like a martyr, I know I can still be alive after being vetoed lol

RC, saying this things right now is just creating WIFOM towards my slot and basically making sure I won't be killed if I get vetoed. Play like the godtier player you think you are

[Skygazer]

not sure if ank/fusc associations are S/S actually the more i read ank's iso

like in particular ank saying this:

Can someone case Fuscosco for me or something

I don't really see it either

feels too on the nose to be an association with ank, feel like she wouldn't soft-defend a scum partner when there's a flip imminent

lmk if you think im wrong but

[Skygazer]

PB is scummy with wanting to be veto'd but ehhhhhh

[Pink Ball]

PB is scummy with wanting to be veto'd but ehhhhhh

Describe your feelings

[Skygazer]

If you're scum why not make a show of being willing to be vetoed? It's not like you're going to kill yourself

[Moongrass]

It's pretty biased that RC says that makes PB scummy when he seemed to townread 0K around the time he was putting himself in the veto.

[Pink Ball]

I'm not making a show, I'm just agreeing with Titus' approach, and I'm not even saying I *want* to be vetoed, rather saying I'm ok with it 'cause I don't know who's a better candidate. And exactly: since I don't know if I'm dying or not, it's not like a self-vote situation where "if you know you're town you shouldn't be voting yourself".

I'm being pretty objective with this matter: my slot is down with the LHFs 'cause I repped in too late and it is not in my plans or intentions to read the game as a whole. Is there another slot that should be vetoed rather than me and/or the LHFs?

[Pink Ball]

It's pretty biased that RC says that makes PB scummy when he seemed to townread 0K around the time he was putting himself in the veto.

RC wants me to be scum 'cause I called him scum, it's as simple as that. I'm hoping he realizes that he's being daft, especially since I'm not even scumreading him.

[NanceFloor]

I'm not making a show, I'm just agreeing with Titus' approach, and I'm not even saying I *want* to be vetoed, rather saying I'm ok with it 'cause I don't know who's a better candidate. And exactly: since I don't know if I'm dying or not, it's not like a self-vote situation where "if you know you're town you shouldn't be voting yourself".

I'm being pretty objective with this matter: my slot is down with the LHFs 'cause I repped in too late and it is not in my plans or intentions to read the game as a whole. Is there another slot that should be vetoed rather than me and/or the LHFs?

Well, you already know MY answer to that. And I know veto is not = to selfvoting, so if you’re specifically asking about coalition slots, I would say no but fypov, I don’t understand why it needs to be all coalition. I think Moon needs to be in veto, which takes up one slot.