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Post Post #5225 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:38 pm

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In post 5222, Titan wrote:
In post 5216, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5213, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5212, Nachomamma8 wrote:Aka I'm pretty sure F-16 is half me, half you.
WHAT?
I said I'm pretty sure F-16 is half me, half you.
And I was talking to Tammy.

I don't get it?
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Post Post #5226 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:39 pm

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In post 5138, PeregrineV wrote:Dang, I was hoping for a scumflip.

I am Yuri Lowell, Town Lone Wolf (modified vig), Tales of Vesperia (you can guess the modification). I didn't shoot last night because I wanted to see Rancid's flip. I shot him night1 because he was total scum (even if he flipped green).

Going home, but want that out there for discussion. I'll try to check in tonight.
Oh look another read I was right on.

Glad to see that my against-the-grain town reads have been good, even if my scum reads have been shit.
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Post Post #5227 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:39 pm

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In post 5219, Titan wrote:
In post 5209, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5207, Titan wrote:I'm not the running around calling Cassandra on him.

Is it wrong I'm feeling slightly amused that someone is declaring KNOWLEDGE I'm scum when I'm as town as I've ever been.

I mean for someone so attuned to my meta, it seems extraordinarily unlikely I'd get paranoid about someone over night. Shit how many times have I paranoid voted someone, then talked it out. For someone who knows I get paranoid?
Point out a game where you non-RVS voted me ever before?

Point out a game where I was saying there was scum in your neighborhood, haven't had you strong town, and you looked like you were setting me up for something that I can't even imagine coming from scum you.

And just so you know this oh I knew it I knew it is completely wrong.

Like seriously, if you actually think I'm scum here, you've definitely lost the right to read me.

And nacho shut up. Yes, I'm suspicious but I'm hella far from ready to roast him over a pit.
I am not the one voting you, you are.

What the hell was up with the whole "he's not playing like AoT or Wicked but still could be scum because Nacho showed him shit?"

Nacho and I were hydra'ing in your modded game. It is not like we went to a far-off island where he taught me ninja tricks or something. It all happened right under your nose. You still said I was bad as scum in the dead QT while you watched. Like seriously, what did you expect that I supposedly learned that I didn't show right in your game?
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Post Post #5228 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:40 pm

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In post 5140, Titan wrote:I can't believe you of all people are asking me about that hammer. It was two days until deadline. The lynch wasn't going anywhere else. The games over 290 pages long, and the most of the discussion has been after mastin and then mastin making a fucktin of walls tha weren't giving anyone a clear read on him except more suspicions. What the hell do you think was going to happen in two days especially with the only person you trust to run the town and des/bro REFUSING to d anything else besides sit in that fucking neighborhood.
You act like I've been in the neighborhood.

You realize that I've borderline site flaked at this point, right?
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Post Post #5229 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:40 pm

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I -promised- myself Id do work and not look at this game, ugh.
In post 5214, CarbonFiber wrote:Your hammer looked scummy.
Why did the hammer look scummy? You literally just pointed out to me that there were plenty of people off the wagon who would have done it when I asked about you. And you had lterally all Day to vote mastin who was reportedly your top suspect.

Also, someone is being ridiculously dead-pan about events in the thread and I think they are skyrocketing to my favorite lynch rather quickly.
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Post Post #5230 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:41 pm

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In post 5223, Nachomamma8 wrote:You don't have to bully me :(

I've never?

Why are you only trying to tell me I'm wrong about falcon? I'm the one with suspicions and paranoia especially based on him setting me up for that hammer, which oh my gods was a mercy killing and the best damn thing for town at that point. I mean holy fuck.
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Post Post #5231 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:41 pm

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In post 4713, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
In post 4711, AngryPidgeon wrote:F16: ffery said nothing was happening at all. I corrected her by pointing out that mastin was quite clearly a thing that was happening. Cause I mean wow. How could anyone not see that as the centerpiece of today.

I agree nacho pposts look really town wrt. Tammy.
You're right that Mastin is a thing that was happening. But it's mostly a Mastin generated thing, with votes here and there and then a Nacho-tunnel.

But the thing is kind of static. It's this big lump sitting in the thread.

And then there's this push on me, which resulted in what? 2 votes? And a lot of talk about how this isn't my town game mostly by people who have never played with scum me. But it seems odd to me that the noise and the votes didn't go further if mastin is scum. I'm hard to lynch when town, but not impossible.

CF raised saving-rancid as a reason for all the vote-craziness on Day 1. So what's going on here?
I think this post from yesterday has some important stuff, but I don't know what to do with it.

The mastin wagon wasn't really opposed. The minor pushes in other directions didn't gather much steam. That's OBVIOUS in hindsight.

But what the fuck was going on Day 1? What wagons benefited from the Rancid and Mastin focus? I hate VCA and I usually just find stuff that misleads me when I look at it, but I'm going to try to dig a little through the votes sometime soon.
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Post Post #5232 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:42 pm

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In post 5218, Just Sheep Us wrote:Also, this is the part where I tell you all I FUCKING TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT GIF FROM THE FUCKING ONSET, AND I FUCKING KNEW HE WAS A MODERATE TO STRONG PR.
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I told you all about mastin.
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Post Post #5233 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:43 pm

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In post 5140, Titan wrote:I can't believe you of all people are asking me about that hammer. It was two days until deadline. The lynch wasn't going anywhere else. The games over 290 pages long, and the most of the discussion has been after mastin and then mastin making a fucktin of walls tha weren't giving anyone a clear read on him except more suspicions. What the hell do you think was going to happen in two days especially with the only person you trust to run the town and des/bro REFUSING to d anything else besides sit in that fucking neighborhood.
I personally would have hammered. I didn't expect you to hammer because it's not what you do. You wait and wait and wait until the very last second before you make a decision.

It looked like you didn't want the lynch to switch to AP and wanted to grab this lynch while you can and also not let Mastin react to your vote on him.

Why did you never, ever, ever vote for days and days and as soon as he was brought to L-1, immediately claimed the hammer?
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Post Post #5234 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:43 pm

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In post 5228, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5140, Titan wrote:I can't believe you of all people are asking me about that hammer. It was two days until deadline. The lynch wasn't going anywhere else. The games over 290 pages long, and the most of the discussion has been after mastin and then mastin making a fucktin of walls tha weren't giving anyone a clear read on him except more suspicions. What the hell do you think was going to happen in two days especially with the only person you trust to run the town and des/bro REFUSING to d anything else besides sit in that fucking neighborhood.
You act like I've been in the neighborhood.

You realize that I've borderline site flaked at this point, right?
I don't have access to your neighborhood so I wouldn't know what you are personally doing. No I don't go searching for people and am having enough problems keeping up as it is. But your other head Adid peak out of the neighborhood to say he wasn't doing anything until mastin was lynched.
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Post Post #5235 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:44 pm

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In post 5226, Just Sheep Us wrote:Oh look another read I was right on.
Why is PV's claim obviously from town?

He actually claimed that he didnt shoot last night because
he was waiting for RBD to flip
which....RBD DID flip so what gives.
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Post Post #5236 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:44 pm

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In post 5196, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5188, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
In post 5181, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 5180, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
In post 5173, Nachomamma8 wrote:Although I would really like you to help me sort magenta.
magenta got a lot more difficult for me to read with mara joining. But, I was still feeling pretty confident orcinus has been town overnight.
What does your scum team look like?
I expected to get some pushback about my certainty Rancid was town at the start of the game day and also some crap about getting agreement to hammer from Beli and then not hammering. I was hoping to get some sense of whether the anticipated push came from town or scum mindsets.

Other shit happened. :/
You thought you'd be a primary target today?
Maybe not primary. I expected some heat.
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Post Post #5237 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:44 pm

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In post 5230, Titan wrote:
In post 5223, Nachomamma8 wrote:You don't have to bully me :(

I've never?

Why are you only trying to tell me I'm wrong about falcon? I'm the one with suspicions and paranoia especially based on him setting me up for that hammer, which oh my gods was a mercy killing and the best damn thing for town at that point. I mean holy fuck.
Do you actually still think I'm scum at this point, like really?
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Post Post #5238 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:46 pm

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In post 5220, Titan wrote:
In post 5218, Just Sheep Us wrote:Also, this is the part where I tell you all I FUCKING TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT GIF FROM THE FUCKING ONSET, AND I FUCKING KNEW HE WAS A MODERATE TO STRONG PR.

Um

Congratulations.

Now if you could start being right about scum reads, then you can start bragging.
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Post Post #5239 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:46 pm

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YOU ARE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME LOOKING GOOD HERE. SO, THE FUCK IS SCUM, NACHO?
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Post Post #5240 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:47 pm

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In post 5224, Titan wrote:
In post 5215, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5116, Titan wrote:Penguins pretty much going to bat for bro being town, depending on how he plays it today I guess, but she's talking me down fro
1) You
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2) You also saw the dead QT for that game where penguin and I had a fairly extensive convo about how neither of us can read each other to save our lives.

So, you want me to ignore the town read she gave you orrrr?

Because I don't see your problem with that.
I feel like town-you should have gotten my point, or that I was gunning at something a bit more complex, especially given the conversation we had about Mina and Mala in Wicked re: their early read on Hanzo and how that informed my reads on them.
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Post Post #5241 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:48 pm

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In post 5218, Just Sheep Us wrote:Also, this is the part where I tell you all I FUCKING TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT GIF FROM THE FUCKING ONSET, AND I FUCKING KNEW HE WAS A MODERATE TO STRONG PR.
You don't get to tell me shit about GiF. But feel free to tell others!
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Post Post #5242 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:48 pm

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In post 5228, Just Sheep Us wrote:You act like I've been in the neighborhood.

You realize that I've borderline site flaked at this point, right?
Hey BRO Im in a sort of similar state right now so work with me then?

Ive been turning up a lot of town losses recently and its getting depressing even if a lot of those were hydras where my buddy acted alone or I got NKd N1 and ya Im a little worn out on trying to do this shit. And I feel like Ive lost my old dedication to rereading things objectively on my own time to try and piece things together and take a reasonable approach. The goddamn apathy and bias and waffling in this game is like a reflection of my spirit in town games recently. So lets say we both actually give this game a good kick in the teeth for once? I think if we actually try we can pull this shit out still.

Deal? But you gotta stop hiding out in that damn private topic.

Also Im not totally convinced your town after recent F16 events, so lets work on transparency woooo.
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Post Post #5243 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:49 pm

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In post 5233, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5140, Titan wrote:I can't believe you of all people are asking me about that hammer. It was two days until deadline. The lynch wasn't going anywhere else. The games over 290 pages long, and the most of the discussion has been after mastin and then mastin making a fucktin of walls tha weren't giving anyone a clear read on him except more suspicions. What the hell do you think was going to happen in two days especially with the only person you trust to run the town and des/bro REFUSING to d anything else besides sit in that fucking neighborhood.
I personally would have hammered. I didn't expect you to hammer because it's not what you do. You wait and wait and wait until the very last second before you make a decision.

It looked like you didn't want the lynch to switch to AP and wanted to grab this lynch while you can and also not let Mastin react to your vote on him.

Why did you never, ever, ever vote for days and days and as soon as he was brought to L-1, immediately claimed the hammer?

Um yeah I do. I once spent an entire game doing nothing but hammering. I think it's obvious if you read my posts, and my answer to this already. Was anything going anywhere? Would there have been another lynch? I was sick as shit and couldn't out up with another 50 pages of that crap. I was hoping that in the end he was scum and I'd get to hammer the scum who came after me early day one for bullshit. And holy shit I do hammer. Go read pick your power that I played with nacho. It's the one I linked that I said I wasn't so proud of. I hammered well before deadline when it was clear there would be nothing else. Someone I thought was town even.

For someone certain of my meta you sure are getting things wrong here. I just can't figure out why you of all people came after me about the hammer.
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Post Post #5244 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:50 pm

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In post 5238, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5220, Titan wrote:
In post 5218, Just Sheep Us wrote:Also, this is the part where I tell you all I FUCKING TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT GIF FROM THE FUCKING ONSET, AND I FUCKING KNEW HE WAS A MODERATE TO STRONG PR.

Um

Congratulations.

Now if you could start being right about scum reads, then you can start bragging.
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Post Post #5245 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:51 pm

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In post 5243, Titan wrote:
In post 5233, CarbonFiber wrote:
In post 5140, Titan wrote:I can't believe you of all people are asking me about that hammer. It was two days until deadline. The lynch wasn't going anywhere else. The games over 290 pages long, and the most of the discussion has been after mastin and then mastin making a fucktin of walls tha weren't giving anyone a clear read on him except more suspicions. What the hell do you think was going to happen in two days especially with the only person you trust to run the town and des/bro REFUSING to d anything else besides sit in that fucking neighborhood.
I personally would have hammered. I didn't expect you to hammer because it's not what you do. You wait and wait and wait until the very last second before you make a decision.

It looked like you didn't want the lynch to switch to AP and wanted to grab this lynch while you can and also not let Mastin react to your vote on him.

Why did you never, ever, ever vote for days and days and as soon as he was brought to L-1, immediately claimed the hammer?

Um yeah I do. I once spent an entire game doing nothing but hammering. I think it's obvious if you read my posts, and my answer to this already. Was anything going anywhere? Would there have been another lynch? I was sick as shit and couldn't out up with another 50 pages of that crap. I was hoping that in the end he was scum and I'd get to hammer the scum who came after me early day one for bullshit. And holy shit I do hammer. Go read pick your power that I played with nacho. It's the one I linked that I said I wasn't so proud of. I hammered well before deadline when it was clear there would be nothing else. Someone I thought was town even.

For someone certain of my meta you sure are getting things wrong here. I just can't figure out why you of all people came after me about the hammer.
Then why the fuck are you not reading my posts where I explained to you why I asked that question?
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Post Post #5246 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:52 pm

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In post 5242, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 5228, Just Sheep Us wrote:You act like I've been in the neighborhood.

You realize that I've borderline site flaked at this point, right?
Hey BRO Im in a sort of similar state right now so work with me then?

Ive been turning up a lot of town losses recently and its getting depressing even if a lot of those were hydras where my buddy acted alone or I got NKd N1 and ya Im a little worn out on trying to do this shit. And I feel like Ive lost my old dedication to rereading things objectively on my own time to try and piece things together and take a reasonable approach. The goddamn apathy and bias and waffling in this game is like a reflection of my spirit in town games recently. So lets say we both actually give this game a good kick in the teeth for once? I think if we actually try we can pull this shit out still.

Deal? But you gotta stop hiding out in that damn private topic.

Also Im not totally convinced your town after recent F16 events, so lets work on transparency woooo.
I haven't been in the neighborhood QT much either. Desp has a bit more, but he's kind of weird with activity.

I also have reason to believe that you're telling the truth, even if everyone and their mother still seems to think otherwise.

Right now my reads on Tammy and Ceph/DV are most in question. I feel like they've positionally benefited from the noise that's happened this whole game (interesting that, since the day start, I'm the only one to even bring up Ceph/DV).
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Post Post #5247 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:52 pm

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In post 5239, CarbonFiber wrote:YOU ARE SPENDING SO MUCH TIME LOOKING GOOD HERE. SO, THE FUCK IS SCUM, NACHO?
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Post Post #5248 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:52 pm

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In post 5240, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5224, Titan wrote:
In post 5215, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5116, Titan wrote:Penguins pretty much going to bat for bro being town, depending on how he plays it today I guess, but she's talking me down fro
1) You
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2) You also saw the dead QT for that game where penguin and I had a fairly extensive convo about how neither of us can read each other to save our lives.

So, you want me to ignore the town read she gave you orrrr?

Because I don't see your problem with that.
I feel like town-you should have gotten my point, or that I was gunning at something a bit more complex, especially given the conversation we had about Mina and Mala in Wicked re: their early read on Hanzo and how that informed my reads on them.

I feel like when you were scum in attack on Titan you came after me with some bullshit reasoning for what you think I should do/get as town. You were off there and you're off here.

If you mean I shouldn't totally trust penguin, she knows I'm paranoid of her.
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Post Post #5249 (ISO) » Wed May 07, 2014 12:53 pm

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In post 5246, Just Sheep Us wrote:
In post 5242, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 5228, Just Sheep Us wrote:You act like I've been in the neighborhood.

You realize that I've borderline site flaked at this point, right?
Hey BRO Im in a sort of similar state right now so work with me then?

Ive been turning up a lot of town losses recently and its getting depressing even if a lot of those were hydras where my buddy acted alone or I got NKd N1 and ya Im a little worn out on trying to do this shit. And I feel like Ive lost my old dedication to rereading things objectively on my own time to try and piece things together and take a reasonable approach. The goddamn apathy and bias and waffling in this game is like a reflection of my spirit in town games recently. So lets say we both actually give this game a good kick in the teeth for once? I think if we actually try we can pull this shit out still.

Deal? But you gotta stop hiding out in that damn private topic.

Also Im not totally convinced your town after recent F16 events, so lets work on transparency woooo.
I haven't been in the neighborhood QT much either. Desp has a bit more, but he's kind of weird with activity.

I also have reason to believe that you're telling the truth, even if everyone and their mother still seems to think otherwise.

Right now my reads on Tammy and Ceph/DV are most in question. I feel like they've positionally benefited from the noise that's happened this whole game (interesting that, since the day start, I'm the only one to even bring up Ceph/DV).

This is such fucking bullshit.
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I'm (Arthur) the wall. Don't let Tammy fool you. She trolls you w/o you even knowing! It's like you're in a constant state on mindfuck. RUN WHILE YOU CAN.
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