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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:14 pm
by the worst
fwiw I don't think it's ever worth playing with fire when you're softing confirmable after watching your IC play in jazz mafia(I think? the one where you are scum Krazy)

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:14 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5223, skitter30 wrote:I also, tbf, knew i had an ace up my sleeve and was actively playing in a way that i knew would look scummy so i wouldnt, like, die

If i wasnt doing that he doesnt get nearly as close as he did

Yes i was kinda close at the end of the day but i only let it get that close knowing i could claim confirmable pr if necessary and that i dont get voted out if i do

But scum-duck doesn't know you have an ace up your sleeve, he's pushing because you are v scary to him no?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:15 pm
by skitter30
In post 5219, the worst wrote:I think we've rolled against each other too many times to be able to read each other as cleanly as we did back in like 2018
Big mood

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:15 pm
by the worst
ate scum Krazy*

pedit: sigh

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:16 pm
by skitter30
In post 5221, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:but do you think SS actually thought that you and aldus were scum together?
Just cuz two names are at the bottom of thr lisy doesnt mean they're scum together, no?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:16 pm
by the worst
I think I'd generally just rather stay out of skitter's line of sight? like diving into the crosshairs is a valid strategy with a lot of players but she is very capable of pulling the trigger.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:17 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
like TW and SS have been working together every day of this game hand in hand.

D1 they pushed you together until you claimed tpr

D2 they were both for dsj

D3 they're together on me

The coop is much cleaner than me/raven who have a very messy history.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:17 pm
by skitter30
In post 5225, the worst wrote:fwiw I don't think it's ever worth playing with fire when you're softing confirmable after watching your IC play in jazz mafia(I think? the one where you are scum Krazy)
Ii mean this is why i called u scum when u called me scum for softing confirmable because u absolutely should have been thinking lf this and, like, not thinking i was scum

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:18 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5230, the worst wrote:I think I'd generally just rather stay out of skitter's line of sight? like diving into the crosshairs is a valid strategy with a lot of players but she is very capable of pulling the trigger.
yes but it would be fun for you to do no?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:19 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
like would you rather try to mis-elim skitter or some random noob like dsj?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:21 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5229, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5221, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:but do you think SS actually thought that you and aldus were scum together?
Just cuz two names are at the bottom of thr lisy doesnt mean they're scum together, no?
that's not how I would do a read list but ok

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:21 pm
by the worst
In post 5232, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5225, the worst wrote:fwiw I don't think it's ever worth playing with fire when you're softing confirmable after watching your IC play in jazz mafia(I think? the one where you are scum Krazy)
Ii mean this is why i called u scum when u called me scum for softing confirmable because u absolutely should have been thinking lf this and, like, not thinking i was scum
I feel like we've crossed over this bridge; I 1) didn't believe you, 2) was not thinking about what happens to scum who cross confirmable-skitter.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:22 pm
by skitter30
In post 5226, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:But scum-duck doesn't know you have an ace up your sleeve, he's pushing because you are v scary to him no?
He loltownbins me as scum and pockets me and nk's me when the pocket is wearing thin

He doesnt try to lynch me cuz he's not, like, suicidal. If he had to choose how to get me out of thr game as scum he does not force a 1v1 with town-me cuz he will lose (sorry ducky <3) and the game will turn into a shitshow along thr way and he doesnt really like/want to foment that

Like i'm telling u we have oodles of history and that's not plausible for scum-him.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:23 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
like we all play mafia not for "winning the game" or having a good "winning percentage" but do do memorable plays with people we enjoy playing with.

So your argument here:
In post 5230, the worst wrote:I think I'd generally just rather stay out of skitter's line of sight? like diving into the crosshairs is a valid strategy with a lot of players but she is very capable of pulling the trigger.

is not really true of your mindset.

Scum!Duck is not going to play the careful game with Town!Skitter, Scum!Duck takes the fight to town!skitter and tries to get her mis-elim'd on D1 because that's fun for Scum!duck to do and scum!duck doesn't care all that much about winning or losing.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:23 pm
by the worst
In post 5233, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 5230, the worst wrote:I think I'd generally just rather stay out of skitter's line of sight? like diving into the crosshairs is a valid strategy with a lot of players but she is very capable of pulling the trigger.
yes but it would be fun for you to do no?
eeehhhhh
limited novelty maybe? if I was in the right mindset
but not at the expensive of my win condition :/

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:24 pm
by skitter30
In post 5238, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Scum!Duck takes the fight to town!skitter and tries to get her mis-elim'd on D1 because that's fun for Scum!duck to do and scum!duck doesn't care all that much about winning or losing.
No

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:25 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5237, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5226, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:But scum-duck doesn't know you have an ace up your sleeve, he's pushing because you are v scary to him no?
He loltownbins me as scum and pockets me and nk's me when the pocket is wearing thin

He doesnt try to lynch me cuz he's not, like, suicidal. If he had to choose how to get me out of thr game as scum he does not force a 1v1 with town-me cuz he will lose (sorry ducky <3) and the game will turn into a shitshow along thr way and he doesnt really like/want to foment that

Like i'm telling u we have oodles of history and that's not plausible for scum-him.

I'm telling you this is exactly what scum!him did this game because I know what his role pm is because I know what my role PM is. If you had flipped me on D2 like I asked you to you would know what I'm saying is true but now you have to make a guess based on faith.

Scum!duck made the High!fun lower chance of winning play because he wanted to go all out on you on D1 and try to get you mis-elim'd on D1. He just had the unfortunate luck this game that you got dealt a confirmable TPR.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm
by the worst
not if it compromises my win condition and turns my fav hobby into Stress for the next x weeks no...

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5240, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5238, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Scum!Duck takes the fight to town!skitter and tries to get her mis-elim'd on D1 because that's fun for Scum!duck to do and scum!duck doesn't care all that much about winning or losing.
No
I know you know Duck for much longer than me and probly a hundred times better than me. But players change their approaches to the game, esp against someone that they consider to be a superior opponent.

I have the benefit of knowing his role because I know my role so I'm trying to explain his motivation behind his moves in order to make them make sense to you.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:26 pm
by skitter30
No sorry i dont buy it

I appreciate that ur trying hard but that narrative isnt plausible and that's now how he approaches a game with town-me

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:27 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5242, the worst wrote:not if it compromises my win condition and turns my fav hobby into Stress for the next x weeks no...
I'm pretty sure you enjoy the stress - people who don't enjoy stress usually don't play this game.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:28 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5244, skitter30 wrote:No sorry i dont buy it

I appreciate that ur trying hard but that narrative isnt plausible and that's now how he approaches a game with town-me
well I know the narrative to be true unfortunately.

If I can't possibly move you on your belief of TW should I try on SS?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:29 pm
by skitter30
In post 5237, skitter30 wrote:He loltownbins me as scum and pockets me and nk's me when the pocket is wearing thin

He doesnt try to lynch me cuz he's not, like, suicidal. If he had to choose how to get me out of thr game as scum he does not force a 1v1 with town-me cuz he will lose (sorry ducky <3) and the game will turn into a shitshow along thr way and he doesnt really like/want to foment that
Like is any of this wrong?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:32 pm
by the worst
I like the tension and I like the challenge. I don't like insurmountable stress which is likely to end in me losing games of mafia.

pedit: I mean my m.o. would just be to remove you from the game asap because I think there's a fairly finite list of ways I can successfully play around you; either loltownbin or do our retro "I'll deal with you later!!! *waves fist*" manoeuvre. indeed the hot & cold & then sincerely trying to murder you is very far from the way I'm interested in playing scum around you.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:32 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I've never played a game with you or TW before so I wouldn't know if what you say about his behavior is wrong or right.

I also don't know what the site meta is because I've only started playing a few months ago.

However from what I experience in my games of mafia, usually people have more fun doing challenging plays like trying to do crazy things that they can have fun and laugh about with their friends down the line. I'm not sure how close you are with TW but it seems you two are on fairly friendly terms so I expect there would be some reason why TW went for your mis-elim on D1 like that.