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In post 5217, Andresvmb wrote:I sent fruit to samantha. Clearly they didn’t get it. I don’t know that I necessarily mistrust samantha’s claim - I just think that now that I’m outted, I was never going to have a chance to complete a visit. It is what it is.

At first, you had my curiosity. Now, you have my attention.

What are you saying Mark? Not sure I follow.

@Andres: It's a clichéd phrase, mild irony was attempted. Essentially your claim in and of itself was mildly interesting, but the fact that you sent fruit to someone and they did not acknowledge it is even more interesting.

Obviously, it's not a great look for Samantha

I don’t know that samantha is lying about their role. It’s impossible to know for certain since I publicly claimed my exact role to confirm a Town PR. So if there’s an RB, and it got used on me, it could easily give a false positive that sends the Town astray. So I’m not willing to trust it.

What I want to do is execute based on play - mechanics aren’t going to fully solve this. I’m getting increasingly concerned that Vasex is just straight Scum. Literally all of their pushes are bad. And now out of the two somewhat overlapping claims I’m the one that shouldn’t be trusted?

It’s getting harder and harder for me to ignore.

Here’s my thinking - I think Cabd might very well flip Scum. I think {bloodhail, Vasex} are bringing up the role conversation because they may want to prevent whatever is happening and instead get rid of me. I am also tired of pretending Vasex is Town - every bad push, they’re there. And the vote for T3 was a late one that was very likely bussing after T3 was looking like the execution.

Cabd has 5 votes.VOTE: NDmath for healthy competition.

In post 5230, Andresvmb wrote:What I want to do is execute based on play - mechanics aren’t going to fully solve this. I’m getting increasingly concerned that Vasex is just straight Scum. Literally all of their pushes are bad. And now out of the two somewhat overlapping claims I’m the one that shouldn’t be trusted?

Why do you think Cabd has played more scummily than NDMath?

In post 5235, Anastasia wrote:

In post 5230, Andresvmb wrote:What I want to do is execute based on play - mechanics aren’t going to fully solve this. I’m getting increasingly concerned that Vasex is just straight Scum. Literally all of their pushes are bad. And now out of the two somewhat overlapping claims I’m the one that shouldn’t be trusted?

Why do you think Cabd has played more scummily than NDMath?

I want to trust Koba’s intuition on NDMath. And besides, Vasex is signaling that they could vote for Cabd but then don’t. And instead, they push Me and then NDMath. Fascinating isn’t it?

At some point some of these more obscure slots need to die. And well, if Nero is Town, it’s quite possible that they were spot on about Cabd. This is a sure fire way of finding out.

In post 5236, Andresvmb wrote:I want to trust Koba’s intuition on NDMath.

I think this is shit reasoning.

FMPOV he's scum that knew that I was town and despite town reading me said he'd be ok flipping me and I think its a scum thing to do. He also did that with STD so...he's just NOW pushing somewhere. It's d4 and he's done shit all except meta defend himself.

In post 5238, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 5236, Andresvmb wrote:I want to trust Koba’s intuition on NDMath.

I think this is shit reasoning.

FMPOV he's scum that knew that I was town and despite town reading me said he'd be ok flipping me and I think its a scum thing to do. He also did that with STD so...he's just NOW pushing somewhere. It's d4 and he's done shit all except meta defend himself.

I’m voting with you mate. Maybe relax a little bit.

And you have been so correct that you voted to execute XP and STD, and defended T3. So I don’t think you have ANY legs to stand one to call anybody else’s reasoning shit.

In post 5240, Andresvmb wrote:to stand one

To stand on*

In post 5001, WindowsXP wrote:out of PR claims - the only 3 i would have doubt on would be Mark, Andres, and Nero. There is probably at least 1 scum in that pool.


Outside of that I think NDmath + Vasex make sense too.

u know that might just be the exact solve bc i dont see scum pooky reevalling me just for "towncred" because theres a pretty well defined path to win with me flipping town

this is Koba's last post

they did not townread NDMath at the end.

Lets kill NDMath and if it is scum the next one - Andre

I dont understand mechanics, where is the fruit you sent to Samantha

In post 5242, Anastasia wrote:

In post 5001, WindowsXP wrote:out of PR claims - the only 3 i would have doubt on would be Mark, Andres, and Nero. There is probably at least 1 scum in that pool.


Outside of that I think NDmath + Vasex make sense too.

u know that might just be the exact solve bc i dont see scum pooky reevalling me just for "towncred" because theres a pretty well defined path to win with me flipping town

this is Koba's last post

they did not townread NDMath at the end.

Yeah and they also thought I could be Scum because I started doubting my TR of them. It happens. Look at the entire history of posts for NDMath - you can’t focus on the last one and think that’s it, that’s all there is too it. Because that would be flawed.

In post 5243, Vasex wrote:I dont understand mechanics, where is the fruit you sent to Samantha

If you don’t understand mechanics, then you shouldn’t ask questions you won’t understand the answers to. Seems like a waste of time.

In post 5244, Andresvmb wrote:Yeah and they also thought I could be Scum because I started doubting my TR of them. It happens. Look at the entire history of posts for NDMath - you can’t focus on the last one and think that’s it, that’s all there is too it. Because that would be flawed.

I think Koba's last post is a summation of their thoughts and the one that I would take most seriously.

I don't think it would make sense to pick their thoughts at a specific time to sheep rather than the one at the end.

What makes you believe Cabd is scum and NDMath is not though?

In post 5246, Anastasia wrote:

In post 5244, Andresvmb wrote:Yeah and they also thought I could be Scum because I started doubting my TR of them. It happens. Look at the entire history of posts for NDMath - you can’t focus on the last one and think that’s it, that’s all there is too it. Because that would be flawed.

I think Koba's last post is a summation of their thoughts and the one that I would take most seriously.

I don't think it would make sense to pick their thoughts at a specific time to sheep rather than the one at the end.

What makes you believe Cabd is scum and NDMath is not though?

Why are you so insistent on this? I’m voting what I think is correct. You can vote whatever you want. If you think I’m wrong fine vote for whoever. Koba had a consistent message that they diverted from only because NDMath starting doubting them. They did the same for me. Like I said, it happens. I think that last post is colored by that.

Koba was clearly wrong on T3 too. I don’t listen to everything they say clearly. But more often than not I vibe with certain views they had. This is one such instance. If I’m wrong that’s great - it means we flipped Scum. And for a long time I thought NDMath could be Scum. I just don’t see it happening, sorry.

Well Koba at the end had more information than Koba earlier.

I simply want to understand your thoughts and why you want Cabd to die here over NDMath.

I am not sure I am right, I am not sure you are wrong.

If you are seeing something I am not, I'd love to hear it because I'd like you to help me be right.

The vote is tied 5-5 and I don't want to miss again.