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Zilla wrote:Huh, I had forgotten my case in all this down time.

unvote: Jebus
Vote: Alabaska J

Thanks to AC for reminding me what it was. I forgot about his Nightfall weirdness.

I'm still suspicious of Jebus, and I'll remain suspicious regardless of Alabaska's flip, but I do think Alabaska is likely scum.

wait you think his case about nightfall has merit? read my post, then say if you agree with him still.

^ No, I totally don't buy it at all. Reading the posts in their original context, your original reason was just to get things going and you had no real motive to actually suspect Nightfall. Then suddenly you had a whole host of reasons to fall back on. It's especially shady that once your initial reasons were disproven, you bring out other reasons after the fact. There's absolutely no reason not to include them in the first post.

Also, you seem boastful of your excuse, as though that should take care of any suspicion on you ever, and it looks like "Yay, me, for figuring a way out of this! I award myself a cookie."

No cookie for you.

Alabaska J wrote:alright well first time he was in the right so i of course i would defend him and that had nothing to do with the argument with spolium, and post thirty is not me defending him: i'm asking for clarification on spolium's case so i can see who i want to support.

post 24 is not defending him either. i said his and spolium's argument was pointless. this was also before nightfall backed out of spolium's argument suspiciously.

<snip>

If you thought it was pointless, then why is it suspicious that nightfall wanted out of a pointless discussion?

Quick mind scan of players read in isolation:

TOTALLY TOWN = ac1983fan replaces Panzerjager, who replaced Megatheory, who replaced Numberfourteen
TOTALLY TOWN = Alabaska J
TOTALLY TOWN = DrippingGoofball replaces Braeden
TOTALLY TOWN = Grimmy replaces Anticollie ***
TOTALLY TOWN = Jebus
TOTALLY TOWN = Nightfall ***

TOTALLY SCUM = ooba replaces Gamma
SCUMMY = The Fonz replaces pacman281292
SCUMMY = Zilla replaces yawetag

Next, actually read the game!

I'd love you to explain your townread on Jebus, DGB.

The Fonz wrote:I'd love you to explain your townread on Jebus, DGB.

That's just a read on tone from players' posts in isolation.

ac1983fan wrote:

Alabaska J wrote:alright well first time he was in the right so i of course i would defend him and that had nothing to do with the argument with spolium, and post thirty is not me defending him: i'm asking for clarification on spolium's case so i can see who i want to support.

post 24 is not defending him either. i said his and spolium's argument was pointless. this was also before nightfall backed out of spolium's argument suspiciously.

<snip>

If you thought it was pointless, then why is it suspicious that nightfall wanted out of a pointless discussion?

read please. i said it was the

Alabaska J wrote:

ac1983fan wrote:

Alabaska J wrote:alright well first time he was in the right so i of course i would defend him and that had nothing to do with the argument with spolium, and post thirty is not me defending him: i'm asking for clarification on spolium's case so i can see who i want to support.

post 24 is not defending him either. i said his and spolium's argument was pointless. this was also before nightfall backed out of spolium's argument suspiciously.

<snip>

If you thought it was pointless, then why is it suspicious that nightfall wanted out of a pointless discussion?

read please. i said it was the

way

he backed out, not the fact he backed out.

fixed

Zilla wrote:^ No, I totally don't buy it at all. Reading the posts in their original context, your original reason was just to get things going and you had no real motive to actually suspect Nightfall. Then suddenly you had a whole host of reasons to fall back on. It's especially shady that once your initial reasons were disproven, you bring out other reasons after the fact. There's absolutely no reason not to include them in the first post.

Also, you seem boastful of your excuse, as though that should take care of any suspicion on you ever, and it looks like "Yay, me, for figuring a way out of this! I award myself a cookie."

No cookie for you.

so do you agree with me or ac1983fan about the posts he quoted?

DrippingGoofball wrote:Quick mind scan of players read in isolation:

TOTALLY TOWN = ac1983fan replaces Panzerjager, who replaced Megatheory, who replaced Numberfourteen
TOTALLY TOWN = Alabaska J
TOTALLY TOWN = DrippingGoofball replaces Braeden
TOTALLY TOWN = Grimmy replaces Anticollie ***
TOTALLY TOWN = Jebus
TOTALLY TOWN = Nightfall ***

TOTALLY SCUM = ooba replaces Gamma
SCUMMY = The Fonz replaces pacman281292
SCUMMY = Zilla replaces yawetag

Next, actually read the game!

I'd like explanations on Alabaska, Jebus, The Fonz/PacMan, myself/Yawetag, ac1983fan/Panzer/Megatheory/Numberfourteen...

Actually, I'd like explanations on everybody. There's very few I agree with.

oy, I reread Alabaska in isolation, and I'd vote him harder if I could.

You dropped your case on Nightfall for NO reason at all, instead switching to Jebus because "It's too early to (vote me)." Nowhere do you explain why you consider Nightfall's disengage scummy. Your own post back then was "either way, you're giving me bad vibes," which amounts to "I'm accusing you, but I don't actually know the reasons why I'm accusing you, so it's just bad vibes."

Also, sorry about earlier with the drama thing, it was ambiguous if you meant Theater or drama in the game, and I thought you meant drama in the game was keeping you from posting.

Lastly, I'm thinking the early votes between you and Jebus were just showmanship for distancing.

I'm very interested in hearing your opinion on Nightfall right now.

DrippingGoofball wrote:Quick mind scan of players read in isolation:

TOTALLY TOWN = ac1983fan replaces Panzerjager, who replaced Megatheory, who replaced Numberfourteen
TOTALLY TOWN = Alabaska J
TOTALLY TOWN = DrippingGoofball replaces Braeden
TOTALLY TOWN = Grimmy replaces Anticollie ***
TOTALLY TOWN = Jebus
TOTALLY TOWN = Nightfall ***

TOTALLY SCUM = ooba replaces Gamma
SCUMMY = The Fonz replaces pacman281292
SCUMMY = Zilla replaces yawetag

Next, actually read the game!

ohi DGB

Explain ac1983fan, Alabaska, ooba/gamma, Fonz, and Zilla.

Imo, ac1983fan could be scum, Alabaska is scum, gamma/ooba could be scum, Fonz seems town and Zilla seems very town.

And what is the meaning of the triple star, dare I ask?

Again, I only paid attention to tone. I'm starting to read right now.

I started putting stars, but then I decided that the capital letters were easier to see. I left some in.

I can tell it's going to be a nightmare to re-read with all the replacements....

(*) ac1983fan replaces Panzerjager, who replaced Megatheory, who replaced Numberfourteen
(*) Alabaska J
DrippingGoofball replaces Braeden
Grimmy replaces Anticollie
Jebus
Nightfall
ooba replaces Gamma
(*) The Fonz replaces pacman281292
(*) Zilla replaces yawetag

Above are the players that were on the charter wagon. One of them is a dead, cleared townie. I can see one scum on this wagon, easily.

(*) ac1983fan replaces Panzerjager, who replaced Megatheory, who replaced Numberfourteen (-)
(*) Alabaska J ++
DrippingGoofball replaces Braeden
Grimmy replaces Anticollie - against nameclaim, protown
Jebus - scumhunting
Nightfall +
ooba replaces Gamma ++
(*) The Fonz replaces pacman281292 ++++
(*) Zilla replaces yawetag


I don't know if it's just hindight, but Spoilum looks awfully town. There's got to be scum on that wagon.

This unvote is weird: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 47#1500947

charter was playing quite aggressively, rattling people's cages.

This post is also suspicious: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 42#1512142

So is this one: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 46#1520546

And this one: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 99#1520699

This one takes the CAKE: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 64#1520864

Take note: if ac1983fac flips scum, or AlabaskaJ flips scum, they are buddies. http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 26#1537826

pacman makes a bunch of posts complaining about his compy or connection or whatnot. Excuses for active lurking? He promises a re-read. Is that what he means? http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 83#1545583 Nope! He never did.

This looks pro-town: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 00#1550600

Nightfall is town.

On page 14 pacman is guilty of much IIoA.

Zilla seems pretty town, actually. Just the way she tries to whip up activity. "Not voting is anti-town" - I like that.

Fonz looks way more town than pacman. But I don't think Fonz would be amateur mistakes, he's a pro.

Jebus' falls into a pattern of careless scummy voting... his Alabaska vote... not that Alabaska doesn't deserve it.

The Fonz (because of pacman) and Alabaska would be my favorite lynch candidates.

TOWN =
ac1983fan replaces Panzerjager, who replaced Megatheory, who replaced Numberfourteen
Nightfall
DrippingGoofball replaces Braeden
Grimmy replaces Anticollie

UNSURE =
Zilla replaces yawetag (but leans town)
Jebus

SCUM =
ooba replaces Gamma
The Fonz replaces pacman281292
Alabaska J

Also, Alabaska seems the most likely scum on the charter wagon.

Alabaska J (3): ac1983fan, Nightfall, Zilla
Jebus (2): Alabaska J, The Fonz
ac1983fan (1): Jebus

I'd like more explanation on your isolation reads, Goofball. I find isolation reads usually tell you a lot more about a person, and I want to know what you're basing these "tone analysis" reads on.

Zilla wrote:

Mod: can we include a list of players that aren't voting with each vote count?

DrippingGoofball wrote: Above are the players that were on the charter wagon. One of them is a dead, cleared townie. I can see one scum on this wagon, easily.

I can. Jebus and Braeden are my top picks.

The Fonz wrote:I can. Jebus and Braeden are my top picks.

I've seen Jebus act that way before and he was town. Twice.

Absent minded, sloppy, playing like he's been awakened in the middle of the night.

Zilla wrote:oy, I reread Alabaska in isolation, and I'd vote him harder if I could.

You dropped your case on Nightfall for NO reason at all, instead switching to Jebus because "It's too early to (vote me)." Nowhere do you explain why you consider Nightfall's disengage scummy. Your own post back then was "either way, you're giving me bad vibes," which amounts to "I'm accusing you, but I don't actually know the reasons why I'm accusing you, so it's just bad vibes."

Also, sorry about earlier with the drama thing, it was ambiguous if you meant Theater or drama in the game, and I thought you meant drama in the game was keeping you from posting.

Lastly, I'm thinking the early votes between you and Jebus were just showmanship for distancing.

I'm very interested in hearing your opinion on Nightfall right now.

My case on nightfall was never that great, but i disliked the way he dropped the argument. it seemed like spolium had kind of gotten a one up on him, and suddenly he agrees that the discussion is pointless? doesn't sit well with me. and if you are accusing me of basing a case partly off of bad vibes, then you should also be looking at ac1983fan, because that's half of his case on me. but because my case wasn't that great, once Jebus did something very scummy, i had no qualms with switching over to him.

Also, can you please answer the questions i asked of you? if you read me in isolation, you HAD to have seen them, so i'm curious as to why you didn't answer them in your post.

DGB, please explain Jebus and Fonz for me, as well as telling me what the asterisks mean.