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vezokpiraka wrote:OGML: Why am I a town read? Sorry but having me in your town pile really makes me feel you are trying to go along with some other people.

Which people? Why do you think it would be advantageous to have you as a townread, as opposed to somebody else? Do you think the rest of his reads are genuine? Analysis: please give it.

Yes, I read the posts on Ghostlin. I just see better lynch candidates.

Wow, I'm not sure I realized until now just how much the OGML wagon drifted apart.

Ythill wrote:

Wrath wrote:Umm did I say townflip. Nope. I said flip. So if OGML flips town it will tell us one thing and if he flips scum it will tell us another thing.

Right, but you also said that SGL was scummy for rushing the OGML lynch. So the implication is that if OGML flips town, SGR is scum. And yes, I know that you're

saying

you find OGML suspicious, which is exactly why this particular slip was scummy enough to earn you double points.

I was not saying that if OGML flips town SGR is scum. If I had wanted to say that I would have said, "If OGML flips town, SGR is scum". This is not a black and white as you make it seem. There are many more people involved than just OGML and SGR. Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I know exactly what you're doing an I don't like it. It is scummy and weak.

OhGodMyLife wrote:

WrathChild wrote:

LynchMePls wrote:

WrathChild wrote:

Ythill wrote:So first you were asking permission for the hammer and now you are blaming us that you didn't?

This is actually a good comment aimed at Nexus.

What was the purpose of this post?

I was reading and commenting on posts, there was no point beyond that I thought Ythill brought up a good point regarding Nexus' to-hammer or not-hammer comments. I'm still am not sold on the Nexus wagon and would prefer the OGML or Ani one.

What about ghostlin? Prefer to ignore your scumbuddies altogether?

Please post your case on Ghost. So far all I have seen you do is sheep off of Ythill saying he is scummy. I've read Ythill's case on Ghost and I didn't buy it. Though I do have to admit that now that you are participating I am starting to prefer a Animorph lynch who disappeared as soon as things started looking bad for him.

I need to look over the Nexus case again.

Yes, you know exactly what I'm doing... zeroing in on your little mobster family with a quickness. Rather than put your fingers in your ears and shout nuh-uh, I'd love to see you try to explain how an OGML scumflip could lead to a conclusion of SGR == scum. You think that SGR was rushing to preemptively end the day with a quick wagon on his buddy?

Considering recent posts, I'm moving OGML out of my lynch list.

It seems pretty clear that the scumteam contains Ghost + Wrath; my preference for the former is minimal. Ani and Nexus are still up there on the points, but there is no grand unified theory binding them all together. Chances are, there's a sleeper somewhere in my MotR slots or wherever.

UNVOTE: Nexus
VOTE: Ghostlin

The Mod wrote:Seacore (7) – Ythill, Seacore, Vezokpiraka, A Gaggle of Geese, SGRaaize, WrathChild, Nexus.

Saint brought my attention to this count and I find it interesting that, without Sea's self vote and two late-wagon votes from scummy mofos, he would not be going backstage. I've been wondering if scum were going to prioritize avoiding the neighborhood or planting a spy in it and, though I'm not going to give this one too much weight without cardflips, it look a little like the latter.

• People I feel are townie enough to go BS: GG,
  LMP
  ,
  SGR
  ,
  Saint
  , Seacore, farside,
  LL
  .
  
• People I feel are skilled/experienced enough to make the most of it: GG,
  LMP
  ,
  Magna, OGML
  ,
  Saint
  , Seacore,
  Llama, AGar
  , farside.
  
• I crossed out the ones who are not on both lists and bolded the ones who are but I am currently not electing.

Of the two, I think LMP is more suited to some stuff I have planned for back there.

Side note... I definitely still prefer Seacore over any other current electoral dissenter wagon. Unless people sheep me on LMP or we throw a quickie up on Saint, I will probably swap back to Seacore eventually.

@Ythill: You still are missing my point. How many times do I have to say it? It has nothing to do with SGR vs. OGML and how who flips. I am saying that there are plenty of other people and their opinions involved. I am only saying that a high number of people took stances on the cases, which would provide us with good info.

Damn, you're being scummy. What are you up to? Is Ghost a PR and you're a goon?

Wrath wrote:My most recent suspicion on SGR is that he is pushing for a quick end to the Day with the weight of the wagon on OGML. I think an OGML flip would tell us a ton about SGR.

Your words, not mine. If I had a dayvig I'd bust a cap in you right now.

@Ythill - LMP certainly. I wasn't too happy about some of his reasons for thinking I was scummy, but LMP is quality and sufficiently in both your categories to elect. If I'm replaced by LynchMePls I'm only upset because I know I'm town and I don't know if he is, but that's fine.

Saint however, should not be in the second category and I'd be horribly insulted if he was elected instead of me.

Meh. Don't sell Furc too short. He's no Glork but he's getting better. In the realm of misguided hunters, humble > hubris.

(inb4 Ythill == hubris > humble)

I know I said I'd stop messing around but I'm really itching for a Wrath lynch after that last post of his. Must... resist... votehop...

Now if only I could learn from Zorblag...
then I would be a good troll.

OhGodMyLife wrote:I'm gonna go ahead and shift Saint into the scummy category after that one

i'm going to be an idiot and tunnel on every single person who finds me scum...
/hypocrisy

OhGodMyLife wrote:

WrathChild wrote:

LynchMePls wrote:

WrathChild wrote:

Ythill wrote:So first you were asking permission for the hammer and now you are blaming us that you didn't?

This is actually a good comment aimed at Nexus.

What was the purpose of this post?

I was reading and commenting on posts, there was no point beyond that I thought Ythill brought up a good point regarding Nexus' to-hammer or not-hammer comments. I'm still am not sold on the Nexus wagon and would prefer the OGML or Ani one.

What about ghostlin? Prefer to ignore your scumbuddies altogether?

how many people are scum, this game, OGML?
first agar,
now me,
now wc?
also, you may have had a spat with farside at one point
You vote SGR first post
call him scum
then elect him
then list him as a "torn on" read and unelect him
what fucking gives, bro?
Seacore, at least I don't put personal grudges in front of my reads. MoI for instance, I personally despise, but he is a town read even if he is sorry to have replaced in for Tasky.

Ythill, I am going to begrudgingly let you buddy me for now.

A Gaggle of Geese wrote:

LynchMePls wrote:

A Gaggle of Geese wrote:Also why the sigh at us calling MOI scummy?

Because Chesskid calls MOI scum in EVERY GAME I'VE EVER SEEN THEM IN EVER? So I don't particularly trust that opinion.

This account isn't chesskid.

Mod post 0 wrote:1. A Gaggle of Geese (Faraday / chesskid3 hydra)

The mod begs to differ with you.

A Gaggle of Geese wrote:

LynchMePls wrote:

GG wrote:Town thought process. Other stuff too. Not really important.

Not really important? Why is that?

Likelyhood of him being lynched is low.

So because he is unlikely to be lynched its fine for you to have an unexplained town read on him?

LynchMePls wrote:
The mod begs to differ with you.

Uh, he quite clearly fucking doesn't. It says hydra, aka not chesskid by himself. I, FARADAY, think MOI is scum.

LynchMePls wrote:
So because he is unlikely to be lynched its fine for you to have an unexplained town read on him?

(I have actually given a brief outline of why I think he's town, btw). Yes it's perfectly fine.

/picks up prod.

Guys, I'm not doing my 100% best with both games of the Larges I'm in, I'm have trouble catching up, and well, this isn't as fun as I'd thought it'd be.

That's my fault, no one elses, I didn't think the larges would be so problematic and I am sorry to inconvience anyone for it. I'd like to requst replacement, please.

Oh look, Ghost is one of those scumbags who replaces out under pressure. Wonderful.

Does this mean we can lynch Wrath now?

Saint wrote:Ythill, I am going to begrudgingly let you buddy me for now.

I just need to be held.

*cuddles*:D

Debating where that should go still.

537 is a great pointer to why OGML needs to be lynched.

Down for Ghost, Nexus, OGML. Maybe Wrath. Ani needs to do something or be replaced. Don't like Llama's two-bit posting every now and then.

I actually agree with AGar here.

Although you can add him to the list of people I would like to lynch.

Ghost's replace is a null tell, since he posted the exact same message across at least one of his other games.

That being said, the slot is still scummy

In the mean time I'd rather lynch OGML than anybody else, but nexus or ani will do. I could even stomach a WC lynch.

Ythill wrote:

• People I feel are townie enough to go BS: GG,
  LMP
  ,
  SGR
  ,
  Saint
  , Seacore, farside,
  LL
  .
  
• People I feel are skilled/experienced enough to make the most of it: GG,
  LMP
  ,
  Magna, OGML
  ,
  Saint
  , Seacore,
  Llama, AGar
  , farside.
  
• I crossed out the ones who are not on both lists and bolded the ones who are but I am currently not electing.

Unelect Seacore; elect LynchMePls

Of the two, I think LMP is more suited to some stuff I have planned for back there.

I didn't think I was even a viable candidate, but if there is support for it, I want to go BS.

WrathChild wrote:

farside22 wrote:WC - What suspicion do you have in regards to SGR? Alright after some newb moments I found WC not so bad to read. I don't mind his scum read so much as I'm surprised that he only has 2 people he listed as scum. I'm going to put WC at null and to be watched.

SGR- I don't care for SGR 3 people he wants to vote. All 3 had stated a issue with him. The worst one is LL. Why wasn't OGML on the list? Why do you think OGML is a townie that is not trying hard, rather then scum making a crap case? What reason did you find was valid against OGML? Why do you think there is enough info for the day to end?

My most recent suspicion on SGR is that he is pushing for a quick end to the Day with the weight of the wagon on OGML. I think an OGML flip would tell us a ton about SGR. I know the activity has slowed down significantly, but I think the OGML wagon has showed us a lot. Perhaps another wagon will provide us with more information as well, so why end the day like SGR is pushing? However, I am a tad worried that if we keep moving from wagon to wagon we may loose track of the comments surrounding the earlier ones. I know we can go back and look, but mostly it's just the final wagon that really gets scrutinized.

I need to quote this whole post because Ythill is just taking pieces of it as he chooses to make me look scummy. This board is incredibly difficult to get a foothold in. You show up and people automatically assume that since you're new you suck and target you as an easy lynch. I dealt with this exact same thing in my first game as well.

Now to the above quote. First Ythill quotes me,

"My most recent suspicion on SGR is that he is pushing for a quick end to the Day with the weight of the wagon on OGML. I think an OGML flip would tell us a ton about SGR. "

But leaves out the next sentance,

"I know the activity has slowed down significantly, but I think the OGML wagon has showed us a lot. Perhaps another wagon will provide us with more information as well, so why end the day like SGR is pushing?"

Which demonstrates that I feel a lot of valuable information was gained by the OGML-wagon (not just stuff about SGR) and more can be gained from another wagon.

I think this demonstrates that Ythill took my comment out of context and views me as an easy mislynch target. I just ask that people actually read the whole quote that Ythill is butchering instead of his OOC pieces.