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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:33 am
by bobsnox
TheLonging wrote:
populartajo wrote:
TheLonging wrote:
bobsnox wrote:You realize you're either getting lynched today or lynched tomorrow, right?


vote: bobsnox

i dont get why is that scummy...?


Read that post a few more times, especially in context. It makes a lot of sense.

Parama has good reasoning sure but that comment there is the single biggest reason why I voted for him.

You should explain yourself. It doesn't make a lot of sense and there's no town motivation to not explain a scumread.

What I was saying is that Parama should be lynched today, but if he doesn't get lynched he will get lynched tomorrow after I flip town. There is no way one of us is not the SK in my mind. Of course his only SK candidate is me, which solidifies my argument. All of sudden he has a solid SK read and it's the one who accused him of being the SK? This game is deteriorating rapidly the more you listen to him.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:36 am
by StrangerCoug
VOTE COUNT

bobsnox (4): Parama, Baby Spice, TheLonging, populartajo
Parama (1): bobsnox
Not voting (5): Empking, Surye, Twistedspoon, xvart, Zinger2099

With
10
players alive, it takes
6
votes to lynch.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:02 pm
by TheLonging
bobsnox wrote:You should explain yourself. It doesn't make a lot of sense and there's no town motivation to not explain a scumread.


I explained it

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 1:10 pm
by populartajo
TheLonging wrote:
populartajo wrote:
TheLonging wrote:
bobsnox wrote:You realize you're either getting lynched today or lynched tomorrow, right?


vote: bobsnox

i dont get why is that scummy...?


Read that post a few more times, especially in context. It makes a lot of sense.

Parama has good reasoning sure but that comment there is the single biggest reason why I voted for him.

i still dont get it

can you pretend im dumb and explain it, plz?

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:54 pm
by Zinger2099
populartajo wrote:
Mod, plese prod or replace zinger.

I am here, jeez, it has not been that long since day started. Last I checked it is 72 hours before people are supposed to start kicking you for poor activity. If I am expected to post every 24 hours, well sorry pal, but I have a life.

Just want to say there are some definite shenanigans going on, I implore everyone to think hard about their decision.

Don't hammer please
. I have something I need to say before the hammer, but I need to think about what it means first.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:57 pm
by Zinger2099
@ BOBSNOX


bobsnox wrote:There is no way one of us is not the SK in my mind.

YOU
need to explain this or you are getting my vote. And trust me, you don't want my vote, it's, shall we say,
harsh
.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:19 pm
by bobsnox
Zinger2099 wrote:
@ BOBSNOX


bobsnox wrote:There is no way one of us is not the SK in my mind.

YOU
need to explain this or you are getting my vote. And trust me, you don't want my vote, it's, shall we say,
harsh
.

Start from the last paragraph of this post http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3045059 and continue reading my ISO from there.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:37 pm
by Zinger2099
ugh, this game is just a headache full of bastardry then.

Congrats mod on WIFOMing us all to hell.

Need to do some re-evaluating.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:50 pm
by Zinger2099
Does anyone have any running theories as to why Amrun bit the dust?

The consensus is that bobsnox, the proposed SK, offed ani because the Firefighter was a threat to the SK.

If you follow this logic, it means that the MAFIA killed Amrun. I ask you all then, WHY are we going after an SK that we practically KNOW about already when the real threat to us is the UNKNOWN MAFIATE(S) STILL IN HIDING.

I say we put bobsnox on the back-burner. We can always lynch the hell out of him later. Personally, I would rather lynch another Mafiate today than an SK, because THEY are the threat to our wincon, not the SK.

If the theories about bobsnox are right, the Mafia are sitting back right now chewing popcorn and laughing at us as we run after bobsnox on a wild goose chase. The SK is no more on their side than it is on ours and they are loving the opportunity to have a clearly defined scum OTHER THAN themselves that they can point fingers at.

Bobsnox is not the right lynch for today. He does need to be lynched, but if you are sure he is an SK, than you are not helping town by chasing him right now.

I am much more suspicious of Parama for suggesting that going after the SK was the right idea.

Vote: Parama
.

Also, if you are town: there are more forces at work trying to WIFOM you than a simple couple Mafiates and an SK. Look before you leap, because this game is played in the deep end of the pool.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:59 pm
by bobsnox
Zinger2099 wrote:Does anyone have any running theories as to why Amrun bit the dust?
My role, possibly. I do not receive confirmation of who I randomly select each night.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:08 pm
by Zinger2099
bobsnox wrote:
Zinger2099 wrote:Does anyone have any running theories as to why Amrun bit the dust?
My role, possibly. I do not receive confirmation of who I randomly select each night.

Wait..... Say WUUUUUUUUH?!

Are you openly admitting to being the SK now? And that your targets are RANDOM?!

Is this true?

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:22 pm
by bobsnox
Zinger2099 wrote:
bobsnox wrote:
Zinger2099 wrote:Does anyone have any running theories as to why Amrun bit the dust?
My role, possibly. I do not receive confirmation of who I randomly select each night.

Wait..... Say WUUUUUUUUH?!

Are you openly admitting to being the SK now? And that your targets are RANDOM?!

Is this true?
ahh no but I'm actually wrong about my role anyway. I thought I was a random bus driver, but I just reviewed it again and I just nullify any actions against a random target. You saw where I quoted the original role PM, right?

someone remind me not to sign up for four games at once again :facepalm:

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:23 pm
by Baby Spice
bobsnox wrote:
Zinger2099 wrote:Does anyone have any running theories as to why Amrun bit the dust?
My role, possibly. I do not receive confirmation of who I randomly select each night.


Who you randomly select to be roleblocked?
Which has a hand in killing Amrun how?

Bloody ninja's

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:29 pm
by Zinger2099
Innocent error? Or scum-slip?

*debates with self*
Self: Self, should we trust him?
Self: I'm not sure, Self. He stinks.
Self: But stinking =/= scum.
Self: No, but scum do stink.
Self: A very valid point.
*ponders*

Unvote


You're on thin ice bobsnox. Very thin ice.

@Amrun, acording to his claim he is a random-targeting Rolestopper, not a Roleblocker, if I read it correctly.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:31 pm
by Zinger2099
Which is really convenient because if he was claiming a Roleblocker we could quasi-verify his claim. No such luck.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:31 pm
by Zinger2099
Zinger2099 wrote:@
Amrun
Baby Spice, acording to his claim he is a random-targeting Rolestopper, not a Roleblocker, if I read it correctly.

Fixed.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:35 pm
by bobsnox
Rolestopper not Roleblocker, yes. Sorry :shame:

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:39 pm
by Zinger2099
bobsnox wrote:There is no way one of us is not the SK in my mind.

THIS LINE
still does not make sense. I'm sorry, but you CLAIMED RANDOM ROLESTOPPER. You know who you are. If you know you are not an SK, why would you say "There is no way one of us is not the SK in my mind."? There is no way you would say that. No reason to. You are basically saying "Panarama MUST BE the SK," only you choose to word it in a really stupid way that suggests you are somehow still a candidate for that spot?

Bobsnox, you are trying my patience.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:46 pm
by Zinger2099
The worst part is, if bobsnox is telling the truth he is basically a protective role. Sure there's a chance he could target scum but the chance is higher that he targets town. Gaaaah.

And of course that's exactly the kind of role you would want to claim as scum, to make yourself look valuable.

Need to think this over more.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:49 pm
by Zinger2099
kk, bed for me. I probably won't be able to get back on for approx. 20 hours or so from the timestamp of this post.

I would LIKE it if I came back to find the lynch wasn't decided without me.

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:12 pm
by bobsnox
Zinger2099 wrote:
bobsnox wrote:There is no way one of us is not the SK in my mind.

THIS LINE
still does not make sense. I'm sorry, but you CLAIMED RANDOM ROLESTOPPER. You know who you are. If you know you are not an SK, why would you say "There is no way one of us is not the SK in my mind."? There is no way you would say that. No reason to. You are basically saying "Panarama MUST BE the SK," only you choose to word it in a really stupid way that suggests you are somehow still a candidate for that spot?

Bobsnox, you are trying my patience.

Keep context in mind. I started today saying Parama gets lynched today or tomorrow. I was speaking from an objective perspective: I know I'm not the SK, but I only see two plausible SK lynches today. If you guys mislynch me today, then I don't see how you won't lynch Parama tomorrow, and I don't see how he will not flip SK. Thus, there is no way that lynching both of us will not produce a SK lynch.

Go with your gut. I can tell you want to believe me or you'd have hammered already. You and tajo are the only ones really giving this the proper treatment.

I don't think I'm exactly valuable, btw, which is why I'm not really concerned about you guys mislynching me today. All I want is for you all to do your homework on Parama and his stances so far this game and avenge me tomorrow.

Or we could skip the mislynch and do it today! <_<

Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:46 pm
by Empking
Vote: bobsnox
- I agree with everything else.

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:12 am
by Parama
Zinger - Getting rid of the SK gets rid of one nightkill. Considering that neither mafia nor SK seem inclined to shoot each other, I'd REALLY like to cut down the speed of deaths. At the rate we're going, assuming 2 mafia and 1 sk (most likely IMO), 2 kills per night and no mislynches will still take us to 4p MyLo in the best case scenario assuming no crosskills. Not good.

Why are people pushing a 1-mafia 1-sk theory? That reeks. 12-3-1 isn't happening because 9-3-1's have already been balanced. I'm not saying it isn't possible, I'm saying it's unlikely, and we should assume there are 2 maf and 1 sk left. That way, if there isn't, then we'll just win sooner than expected. If we assume the other is true and it isn't, people are gonna get reckless at any potential LyLo situation.

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:30 am
by bobsnox
Empking wrote:
Vote: bobsnox
- I agree with everything else.

:roll: good effort there

Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:56 am
by StrangerCoug
Bumping over the count.