Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:05 pm
DGB isn't even pretending to try anymore
Despite disagreeing with Reck about SA, and agreeing with Spyrex about the same, Reck's case on Spy is fairly convincing.
Chunk- Before I look at anything, he looks pretty town. He seems to be questioning people, asking questions, and trying to get others to do the same (although as I said, nobody is going to change their playstyle because you go "OMG UR NOT PROTOWN THIS WAY CHANGE UR WAYS"). Ok, so reading his ISO, he jokevoted Reck and removed it immediately. Fine. But then he says he wants to follow Reck. This is probably a poor strategy, but if my memory serves me correctly, he didn't follow through with this. What it does tell me though is that he and Reck are probably not scum together. I don't think he would blatantly latch on to a scumbud like that. Next, he calls me out for reasons that he actually seems to believe, something that few of the people voting me have done. He also calls Lowell on the same thing, so he's not just looking at an easy vote. Calls Khan and Kuribo on it too. Calls Kuribo "self proclaimed as no use Day 1". Yeah, I don't need to see more. The guy is town.
DGB- This one is a bit harder for me.There are people who see her as scummy all the time and people who know that meta and see her as town for matching it. Say what you want, when she is town, her reads are dead on. But all of the things she attacks people for, she is usually guilty of as scum herself.Right now, I don't have much of a read on her yet. So lemme take a look."locks in" a town read on Socio. Says Reck is bussing and will fill me in in the QT on SDC. Calls Elli scum.Ok, at this point, I think she is throwing things out there for reactions so she can get better reads. This seems clear when she votes Reck and says it's because his wagon is too small.Calls Fate scum for a forced tone. More reads, mostly scum reads.Has to be for reaction. Then she does her list.Four town and everyone else is an "unwashed mess", "scum", or "lurkerscum".I think she wants to see how people react to suspicion, which seems more true when you look at the lurker category's name of "lurkerscum". Seems like a town motivated list. She's town, but not as town as Chunk.
Elli:First impression is that he is very reserved. He will post reads, which are usually pretty good. But he's one who rarely elaborates, even when asked. As scum, I feel like he probably isn't lynched often enough because "oh, that's just Elli". But he hasn't really popped out as one of the players in this game. I'd like the people who know him better than me to explain his lurkerness and what it means normally. So, he tries to start some controversy by voting no lynch and proposing five policy lynches. Obviously looking for something to start discussion. Prods Fate, votes Pine. Quote's ZD's post, votes me. Asks DGB if she's scum. Says I should have found Zd's post scummy as town, but never said why and has kind of clung to that all day. Asks Spy what is wrong with him a few times.Yeah, he's blending in nicely. I think Elli is scum.
Elvis- She seems town to me so far.Let's get to the ISO read though. Votes Spy for being a ginger. Calls Pine scum for protecting him. And then I think her first real read is Kuriboscum. More Kuribo stuff and then a vote. Continues to push Kuriboscum. Calls Chunky scum. Khan and Elli town. Explains town reads when asked.More Kuribo sucks stuff. Yeah, she finds a scum suspect, votes him, keeps posting stuff about him, and looks at some other people too. Gotta say town here.
Fate-I think he is pressing the caps lock button so people listen to him, but isn't so worried about finding scums. He just wants to control the game. The constant profanity has the same effect as the caps IMO. Calls Socio and Spy town. Votes Khan. Votes me (why?). Gets pissed at Reck for the "SDC has scum" thing. This is why I think Fate+1SDC are scum. Tells DGB he's scum and is bussing.This is interesting because no scum in their right mind would say that, right? Uh, wrong. Fate is the kind of person who would. Just for the style points and ego stroke. And maybe to try to throw DGB off a little. Asks Kuribo for reads (coaching?). Says his town read on Kuribo is weakening (shit, time to distance). And now he brings up the bussing thing regarding Kuribo. Not once. But twice. Yeah, I bet he is. Oh, wait. No, Kuribo said his play is because he didn't replace in. Must be town now (whew, no need to bus).Calls Hindu/Shattered/me/everylurker scum team. Replaces lurkers with Rhinox. Calls DGB scum for thinking Chunk, Reck, and Kuribo are scum (DGB called a lot more scums than that). The only one he gives a reason on is Kuribo. Talk about a strong connection. These two are buddies, I'm tellin ya. Let me ask those who knows Fate something.HOW OFTEN DOES HE VOTE SOMEONE AND THEN BARELY PUSH THEM?
Grimm- Seems to be honestly attempting how to find scum in such a large game. Strong town tell for me.Even from his confirmation post, he's upset that he's going to be confused. Votes Kuribo for Khan's reasons. Catches Fate's comment about bussing Kuribo, but then says Fate isn't necessarily scum even though he pinged his scumdar. Grimm, learn to trust those pings. They are right a lot of the time. Calls Chunk scum and FoS's Elli for not explaining his scum read when asked.Yeah, this guy's pretty town.
Hind - I've gone pretty back and forth on him.This ISO will be good for me. Talks about how well he reads the SDC players and admits he thought about the odds pointing to one of them being scum. Votes me because it's a "decent wagon" in the "RVS". Calls DGB and Reck town. And Pine. And Socio. Asks for reads from Kuribo. Says me and Kuribo as "clones". Asks Kuribo for reads again, leaves his vote on me, but doesn't ask for reads from me, the supposed "clone". Tells Fate to lay low (huh? I missed this the first time through. Asks when Kuribo started using caps, but nothing about me, who he is voting. Could this guy be scum with Fate and Kuribo? Two more posts on Kuribo, but leaves his vote on me. Offers himself up to SDC. Says for the third time that DGB and Reck are town.I dunno, I think he mostly depends on what Kuribo and Fate flip. If they are scum, he is definitely their buddy. If not, he's probably town.
Khan - A lot of people say he's town, and I tend to agree.So. Joke votes Spy. Explains SDC for me. Asks Reck ab out his "SDC has scum" post. Does his list, votes Kuribo. Explains list to Pine, asks for better reads from Pine. Explains Kuribo vote, admits it's weak because it's early. A lot on Kuribo then switches to reck (huh?). Adds me to his list while removing Fate, Pine, and ZD. Meh, this'll be my weakest town read I think. His reconsideration of Kuribo seems weird, but I think it makes sense. And he seemed to tunnel on Kuribo for a while.Mostly looks fine though.
Kuribo-He's obvscum. This won't change. And I'm for the first time seeing the bees in his confirmation post. Wtf? lol. Didn't show up on my phone.
.Ok, before this writing, my opinion is that the scum team includes Kuribo, Spring, Fate, and Spy. This will probably change as I look more in depth
Town to scum in order:
Grimm
Chunk
Elvis
DGB
Khan
Hind
Elli
Fate