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Trollie is scum, and will stay that way, as has been said forever. But he can be lynched tomorrow. If Nacho is scum, which he probably is, unless Chk has a meta as lyncher (Does he?), then the last of scum is probably to be found amongst the people who haven't said much - Venmar is just about confirmed by the way Trollie is focusing on him, and nobody else, amongst those who have said anything, seems even remotely scummy.

VOTE: Nachomamma

hey matt since you should know trollie's meta do you think he is a powerful PR or something?

I can 100% guarantee that either Bitmap or Lurker is lying and is Scum.

There is only 1 Miller in the game.

hey
hey
hey maestro
maestro
maestro hey
hey


read the fucking game

How do you know there is only one miller Maestro, Unless you are some kind of special cop that can investigate miller claims to see if they are true, I doubt your statement being true.

I'm a Town Oracle, and since I can't, for my life, think of anything good to use my power on other than what I already did, I'm claiming ans asking for opinions. I have the ability (at any time) to ask 2 questions of the Moderator about the setup of the game, and these questions can't pertain to specific people - they have to be about the overall setup. I asked how many Millers of any type are in the game - Monkey answered back that there is one. Flavor was something about me utilizing mechanics to my advantage and sometimes focusing on setups...which I don't entirely agree with when it comes to my personal meta but that's neither here nor there.

What should my second question about the setup be? Obviously it should be something that we can word well to glean as much information and use heavily to our advantage, and I'd prefer it not to be about Lurker/Bitmap, since one of them is confirmed Scum.

↑ Om of the Nom wrote:hey
hey
hey maestro
maestro
maestro hey
hey


read the fucking game

wtf do you want? I'm finding Scum.
I don't remember you being this bad either.

Then again. HOw many times have we played together?

↑ TheTrollie wrote:
this is, in general, the type of posting Venmar has been doing all game. Very abrupt assertions of his strong scum-reads, but with nothing backing it. He's just waiting for someone to also hop on the bitmap wagon (one which was very easy for him to hop on absent a reason) and start generating content so he doesn't have to. He avoids generating his own content a lot in this game.

- I'll stop you right there for a second. While it may look like it, I was actually under the impression people could figure things out for themselves. I was recovering from a knee surgery early in day 1 and I wanted to keep my posting short. I didn't push Bitmap and wait for other people to generate my content, quite the contrary. Not to mention this is hypocritical of you since this is exactly what you have been doing to me the whole game.

↑ TheTrollie wrote:

↑ Venmar wrote:

↑ Bitmap wrote:I'm surprised I haven't been lynched already.

Me too

More assertions of his belief that bitmap is scum while not taking on any responsibility to generate content motivating people towards a bitmap lynch....he's just waiting for something to happen

- Again, not true. At that stage I was still under the impression that people knew why I was pushing Bitmap, because IN MY HEAD, I thought the reasons I was attacking Bitmap for were obvious, but clearly that isn't the case. I think i learned that I cant afford to expect people to catch on to my line of thinking as easily, and that's my fault.

↑ TheTrollie wrote:

↑ Venmar wrote:Why hasn't anyone noticed this yet?

↑ Bitmap wrote:

ALSO PART OF MY ROLE IS MILLER JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE!

↑ Bitmap wrote:When I got the miller role PM, I looked at the wiki for millers. It said I can claim now and get it out of the way or play well and be pro-town.

I'll give 5 rupies to the gentleman who spots the difference in those two posts.

I'll also mention that repetition is part of Bitmaps scumplay. I think OmNom is familiar with it in a particular Lover game we 3 played in.

again just wading the waters, waiting for someone to provide the content. This point he was making about the difference between the two posts was really dumb, but he didn't have to worry about that if he let someone else corroborate his point.

↑ Venmar wrote:Are you being obtuse on purpose Bitmap?

@Mattp - Could we maybe lynch Bitmap instead of Mehdi?

appealing to MattPs town authority, wading the waters even more

- I knew why I made that first post... I knew the answer beforehand and just because someone answered it for me doesn't mean I didn't know it myself. No offense, but if Mahdi was able to find my concern in the two posts, then I think you and I could've as well. This all just comes down to most of you guys writing it off as a typo or something but I believe it was more than just a typo... also yes I like Mattp, problem?

↑ TheTrollie wrote:

↑ Venmar wrote:Trollie, you're funny.

Trollie is scum as well for repetition of his views but not adding anything else to the table. This isn't even OMGUS, he's just trying to be loud on purpose without pushing his reasoning for said repetition, as if we have short term memory and forgot that he thinks I am scum.

I want to trust you Mattp. But I feel more confident in Bitmap scum than Mehdi scum.

I've already discussed this post...
(1) I have never seen this tactic of responding to a vote (the "laugh it off" tactic) come from town. Never.
(2) Repitition of views but not adding anything else to the table...uhhh...that (a) is so vague and vapid i have no idea what you are even trying to say (b) if i understand what you are saying, and you mean that I keep saying you are scum, this is in no way a scumtell (c) a whole fuckton of players in this game are doing that, and in fact a lot of them just do that in general (including urself). this is by far the worst case ive ever heard against another player. He is grabbing at straws...he goes so far as to say that

I

am OMGUSing when he hadn't even mentioned me once before in this game. lol he is literally the one OMGUSing in this post.
(3) more buddying of MattP

- (1) Idk how you can consider it as a tell. Sarcasm or humour is not a scumtell.
- (2) Oh, but unneeded bland repetition IS a scumtell. You've actually accused me of being scum due to repeating my views ( or as you put it, asserting ) earlier in this wall and I believe later in it. That's really hypocritical of you and shows how little you got on me. "Other people" at least backed up their assertions or repetitions, and that's a fact.
- (3) The problem with buddying is that you don't know if it's scum buddying town or town buddying town/scum. There's a lot of applications where it would actually be town buddying town because there's a lot of incentive for people to team up and work together, form a town bloc or alliance of some sort. I just think you're scared people are actually listening to Mattp, because there's a whole lot of other people doing the same and you're just nitpicking me.

↑ TheTrollie wrote:

↑ Venmar wrote:I'm really laughing right now.

Trollie. Come on now. Let's not just prove the point Mattp made a page ago.

again (1) laughing it off=scum (2)this is him doing what he is saying makes me scummy...just repeating himself (3)more buddying/sheeping/praying to the almighty-town-MattP god

- (1) You blew that out of proportion because I wasn't laughing anything off. I was just laughing in general...
- (2) What the hell did I just repeat? WHAT DID I REPEAT?

↑ TheTrollie wrote:

↑ Venmar wrote:

↑ Voidedmafia wrote:
Because your push on him isn't good, and the fact that you're trying to continue to push this pulls it down to being utter shit.

I wasn't trying to push it anymore, you have been dogging me about so I was trying to simply make it clear for why I suspected him in the first place.

Are you required to color your wall posts or not? If you aren't I would like to politely request that you dont, it makes reading easier.

So, the next thing on the agenda appears to be TheTrollie, but I am also suspicious of Nacho for his investigation proposals last day, and with the Mehdi scumflip I am going to drop my Bitmap scumread. Going to wait for the input of our great leader Mattp.

OMG will u stop this. Do you not see what venmar is doing this whole game? he is taking a look at where people with town power (mostly matt) are headed, and are keeping them FIRMLY to their tracks. He is preventing anyone from derailing us from the plans that HE WAS PROMISED, HE WAS PROMISED A MISLYNCH AND HE WANTS HIS MISLYNCH PLS DONT MAKE HIM CRY!!!!

- What..?? You seriously believe that I could be even slightly able to leash Mattp? LOL.

↑ TheTrollie wrote:

↑ Venmar wrote:Okay. Compromise.

Vote: Mehdi

you suggested a compromise, you never suggested that you were going to back off of Mehdi....i wonder...why did venmar decide to compromise? uhhh, because hes been sheep sheep buddy buddy derp derping Matt the whole fucking game since matt is giving him the chance to provide zero content but still be one of Matt's happy angels

- You're making dumb assumptions, but honestly at that point I still had intent to go back to Bitmap if something went wrong. I compromised because the Bitmap lynch wasn't going to happen that day.

↑ TheTrollie wrote:

↑ Venmar wrote:

↑ TheTrollie wrote:VOTE: venmar

Lets be serious for a second here, you have brought up nothing in light of your own argument to support your idea of me being scum. All your doing is calling me scum and nothing else, you're just spitting out words. I would quote everywhere that all you did was discredit or insult me rather than prove my guilt, but I wont because I would just emberass you, it would take up a lot of my space.

Also, your whole post was just you discrediting MattP for what he has said instead of explaining why it was dumb or silly.

Vote: TheTrollie

PEdit: Gut wise I have an eye kept on Voided in all honesty, but I could care less as he isn't priority right now.

I warned you...didn't I? Remember I said the first post i quoted was gonna be important at the very end of this wall? well its the end of the wall...

HE is criticizing ME for just calling him scum and nothing else? he explained jack shit about his vote on bitmap D1. He even, in that first post, said that he does not need to explain it. Well guess what Venny...I didn't need to explain my vote on u either.

- You're a goddamn hypocrite. You just went on talking about how I was making myself look so awesome, when you just went on a total egotistical parade of how powerful and important you think you are when you really aren't. Your push on me is opportunistic because you saw the small flaws in my logic, you saw that I was under some heat at the time, you decided to DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU ACCUSED ME OF DOING, you just called me scum and didn't explain, waited for other people to generate your content, and now you're priding yourself on connecting the puzzle pieces given to you by others? Maybe if you weren't such a hypocrite and if you weren't scum then maybe I wouldn't be so frustrated but NEITHER OF THOSE ARE FALSE, SO I CANT HELP IT, TRUTH HURTS. YOU'RE TRYING TOO HARD YOU SCUMWIPE.

Fuuuuuu, k i'm done for now.

↑ Maestro wrote:What should my second question about the setup be? Obviously it should be something that we can word well to glean as much information and use heavily to our advantage, and I'd prefer it not to be about Lurker/Bitmap, since one of them is confirmed Scum.

How many different factions are there? How many anti-town are there? How many Vanillas are in the game? Can I wish for more wishes? Is this game too easy because alignment was predetermined?

I 'unno.

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[quote="In post 534, Venmar"][/quote]

scum found.

Ask if there are two scum factions

Trollie shaddup

I have no idea what trollies role is or what it would be

But lets kill nacho then lurker tomorrow then trollie how bout that

Alternatively if there is a vig they can kill lurker tonight

I think a better way to word it (as to include an SK) is "how many anti-town factions are there?"

↑ Voidedmafia wrote:Mehdi asked the people who had voted by this point why they suspected who they did. Why do you have a problem with this?

This is what happened. Bitmap voted for Tam and then FOSed Matt and Vemar. Why would Mehdi care about a bunch of RVS type votes? But the slot was scum so it was maybe budding Matt, Vemar and Tam a tad.

@Toog-Do you think VM is faking his PR?

Trollie is still scum. I’m getting some scummy vibes frm the TAM slot. I might be down for a Nacho lynch. chk IS TOWN.

YRAAAAHGHHGGGG

In pirate that means "I agree with chkflip"

Pedit: "might" be down for a nacho lynch? Seriously wtf is this shit.

I have a higher read on Trollie.

If you don't understand why your post is crappy then that's sad to me

You have a scum-read on Trollie? Impressive.

The point is, we all know that Trollie is scummy scum, even if he's not admitting it, so we don't need to lynch him right now. Chk has no reason to lie as town, so either he or Nacho is scum. If we have a vig shoot Trollie, and we lynch Nacho, we've got a 50% to be rid of 3 scum by the time day 3 starts.

chk is town. So if my options were Nacho/Chk I'd be voting Nacho.

↑ Nero Cain wrote:chk is town. So if my options were Nacho/Chk I'd be voting Nacho.

They are.