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I don't mind Al and I thought pineapple was scum so...

thoughts on MP5 and God GIF?

Wayne
Umm
Ugh

I have MP5 as town so I'm assuming fakegod as town right now.

Also TIP, Wayne is obviously butthurt.

Also frequency's TIP vote was opportunistic as fuck.

so you have Al and frequency as your bottom two?

why do you have MP5 as town?

Err hit submit by accident.

The fact that he haven't been prodded with only 2 posts is atrocious, but I don't think he's active lurking (my vote on him was to test that.)

His 133 felt townish.
Also his blatant postings like " now I want a wagon", "I'm gonna vote an inactive" looks town.
(I know that too scummy to be scum is a fallacy, but still.)

I don't get butthurt over a game, GiF. Just illustrating where the logic you and Mara are throwing out there points back to. You know my lynch target

VOTE: Pope

Looking at his completed games again, he's actually never been this irratic. And Mara, you've played two games with him (at least from those that are fair play to reference) in the one where you used him so well, you guys lost as town.

If he was never this irratic before, it means that it's his new playstyle. Which now means that the meta tell us null.
My townread on him is not based solely on meta so

Tell is*

I have 4 games with him that are completed

two of them are Hydrae games

Tierce's newb he was scum and I caught him our immediately

the other he was town with me as an IC and I caught him out as town immediately. I left him alive because I knew he was town, but I don't think we would have lost had he held onto his vote a bit longer, but he did catch Cabd scum ( I think it was him) where I was a bit slow in doing so

a third he was scum, I was in Sugar Cain Hydra and I never left him alone

a fourth, I was scum he was town and I was slow to read him as town

Pedit: I think he's always erratic...

the fourth was a popcorn game where I was in Kerberos Hydra

Oh I forgot to do this.
VOTE: Al

I don't like using fallacies to read people GIF... They are called Fallacies for a reason

and the too scummy to be scum fallacy describes alot of newer players

In post 459, TheIrishPope wrote:

In post 450, waynegg wrote:I would also like to point out the obvious that seams to have escaped everyone.

If Mara is scum, and Pope town, then she's playing against her wincon

. Pope's been at L-1 for a while now and Mara could end that. I think she's hedging her vote because she knows its a hammer and how that could be viewed, so she's conflicted. Put her at L-1 and see how she reacts.

Nope

Scum wincon is to eliminate town

people until they have the majority
That's why scum can hammer their scum partners
It's not against their wincon
It's a risky move, but they might pull it off
Also, if Mara hammers me and I flip Town (which I will), wouldn't all eyes be set at her? Yeah.

QFT

will somebody please hammer this shit already so we can get a flip to build reads on? If TIP isn't scum, then scum is trying to run this day out as far as possible to lay down some serious WIFOM.

Mara and GiF have collectively laid down thin cases on every player on this game except for TIP and I so they can go back, ref it, and say I told you so. If he flips town, Mara and GiF are both scum using TIP as their tool. The tool should be removed so they'll be empty handed, but I can get behind a lynch of either of these two if need be.

You are expecting me to make a thick case on someone who only has two posts total?

No, I expect you to get behind a thick case that's already present I stead of using it and the focus of it to spread WIFOM.

But you didn't

Your TIP case wasn't thick.

Also since you LOVE talking about wifom, let me give you more.
You don't think scum is using the total clusterfuck between Mara/me/TIP/you as an excuse to lurk and stay out of the radar?

Your case on me is shit, wayne
You're admitting I'm Town
And since you all know I'm Town, it's better to keep me around

Mara already crumbed using TIP as her personal tool to further her wincon while being very tactfully null on the rest of her statement. She's right I suppose. certainly seems absolutely sure of it.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Mara

Too late.
She already moved to my "must not lynch" pile.

I have a bad feeling that today will end with no lynch.