Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

[Yulia Jue]

Vote Count 1.04

TEAR: That Colonel Jade is certainly quite strong.

LUKE: Humph. I could've done just fine without him. You better not try and get in my way again! I'm warning you!

JADE: I realize I may have interfered with your ambitions, but the sight was just too much to bear. I'll refrain from "getting in your way" in the future. In exchange, I ask that you do me the same favor.

ION: *Cough* Well, in any case, the problem's been resolved and nobody's hurt, right? Why not just leave it at that?

TEAR: Yes. Let's go inform the Cheagle Elder and head back to Engeve.

** LUKE, TEAR & ION LEAVE **

JADE: "Resolved," indeed...

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch or no lynch.

Minami no Hana (3): Ms Marangal, Deacon Blues, Kazekirimaru (L-4)

Nachomamma8 (2): Tammy, ProHawk (L-5)
ProHawk (2): Nachomamma8, Mac (L-5)
Ms Marangal (1): orcinus_theoriginal (L-6)
Tammy (1): The Rufflig (L-6)
The Rufflig (1): Minami no Hana (L-6)

Not Voting (3): pitoli, MafiaSSK, TheFuzzylogic99


Time Pool Left: 400 Hours Absolute deadline falls on Wednesday, December 18th, at 4PM GMT -7.

This is in (expired on 2013-12-18 16:00:00)

MafiaSSK has been prodded.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Sorry but what Hydra is Gif in.... Im a bit confused.

[Kazekirimaru]

GuyinFreezer and Sakura Hana = Minami no Hana

[Yulia Jue]

VOTE: GifSakura

Please use proper names in the future. It has been counted for the purposes of Votecount 1.04, but in the future such votes will not be honored.

[Minami no Hana]

Can you provide YOUR reads and why you think that way?

Sure.

GiF's town.



No really that was a joke, anyway as for my reads.

Rufflig: Leaning Scum, I didnt like his vote hoping everytime someone did as much as suspect him, and his vote on prohawk seemed opportunistic (bus?)
prohawk: Scum, Don't like his attitude this game, but then again i didnt like him in xenologue either and he was town, so i'm letting Nacho deal with him, besides, GiF wants our vote to be on Rufflig.
Mara: Null, because idk wth is she thinking atm, she's doing nothing for me to work with, just a vote...
You: Leaning Town, tho i'm not sure what you're asking everyone's reads for, unless you're planning on doing that big towntell of yours (or you just remembered why i thought you were scum for in that newbie game and refined your scum game for that?).
Kaze: Null, I think im not able to read Kaze at all
orc: Leaning Town, so far he seems like someone that wants to contribute in general.
Mac: Leaning Town, I like his posts so far, specially his interactions with the other players.

Now you asking reads out of everyone is causing me to be paranoid because on that newbie game where you were scum I had to ask you to do trajectory analisis and that's what in the end made me think you were scum, and idk if you're doing this for the towntell or because of your trajectory from that game.

[Kazekirimaru]

What did you think of my claim, Sakura?

[Deacon Blues]

You: Leaning Town, tho i'm not sure what you're asking everyone's reads for, unless you're planning on doing that big towntell of yours (or you just remembered why i thought you were scum for in that newbie game and refined your scum game for that?).

This isn't specific to you, but I'm kinda done with everyone treating us like ffery is the only member of our hydra

[Minami no Hana]

I actually forgot what the other head was... who was it?

[Deacon Blues]

Kaze: Null, I think im not able to read Kaze at all
orc: Leaning Town, so far he seems like someone that wants to contribute in general.

holy shit read the game

[Deacon Blues]

bork

[Minami no Hana]

holy shit read the game

And why the heck are you yelling at me I had a day where i didnt participate and let GiF handle it because i was swarmed with work (i think that was yesterday). Why do i feel like you're just demanding things instead of just asking nicely :<

[Deacon Blues]

Why do i feel like you're just demanding things instead of just asking nicely :<

Probably cause I am. I'll tone it down, but it's obvious you're missing a ton of stuff that's happened.

[Deacon Blues]

You: Leaning Town, tho i'm not sure what you're asking everyone's reads for, unless you're planning on doing that big towntell of yours (or you just remembered why i thought you were scum for in that newbie game and refined your scum game for that?).

I am totally oblivious to what other people consider to be my towntells.

The reason I want your reads and the reads of the other nulls is because I am absofuckinglutely sure there are scum in that list. Maybe scum elsewhere too.

I want to know what you are thinking about the game. I want to know what is jumping out at you. I want to know what your reactions are.

I want to know that so that if you are town I can stop worrying about you.

[Minami no Hana]

I want to know what you are thinking about the game. I want to know what is jumping out at you. I want to know what your reactions are.

You know what's frickin jumping at me? The fact that you keep demanding things of others like you're the leader of the town all of a sudden, Rufflig's also jumping at me and I already said why.

[ProHawk]

ProHawk would immediately go after me for being antitown as hell with my big wagons without any debate. A wagon forming in the way that it did means that there's no real way to distinguish between town or scum jumping on the wagon; Prohawk would be likely to express that as well. I didn't like the ease that he picked two names to be scum from the wagon with (considering the wagon gave no information whatsoever based on who jumped on it), and I didn't like I wasn't named in his suspects until I reaffirmed my push on him. Timing was late.

Want to know the real fun part about all of this conjecturing about what town-hawk would do?

I am pretty sure Nacho hasn't even been remotely familiar with scum-hawk.

Who said you weren't a suspect before that?

The whole "I think Tammy and Rufflig are the scum on my wagon" implied that when I started the wagon on you in the first place. Why didn't you mention my name if I was a suspect?

I see where you got the idea I suppose. You didn't ping my gut like those two at the time I posted - to answer your question. It took a bit more re-reading and analyzing for me to come to that conclusion. Why does me suspecting you after pushing me make me scum? What real scum-motivation would I have to make today into a Hawk vs Nacho?

Oh Rufflig, would you be so kind as to tell me your thoughts on SSK?

P-EDIT: Have you ever town-read me Hana? Your strat should change to: Scum-Reading ProHawk = Town ProHawk. Town-Reading ProHawk = Scum ProHawk. You will have much better results this way.

[Deacon Blues]

holy shit read the game

And why the heck are you yelling at me I had a day where i didnt participate and let GiF handle it because i was swarmed with work (i think that was yesterday). Why do i feel like you're just demanding things instead of just asking nicely :<

Well see, we asked and we got a stale reads list that hadn't changed since somebody ROLECLAIMED AND CLEARED ANOTHER PLAYER AS WELL.

It was a little unsettling.

[Deacon Blues]

UNVOTE

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Deacon why'd you hop off?

[Minami no Hana]

Oh i did miss the role reveal, well guess that takes my worries off Kaze and strengthens my read on orc then, considering it's a confirmable role if lynching orc does do what he said.

[Deacon Blues]

Deacon why'd you hop off?

Because she's probably town. Enough town that I'm looking around for some other null read to chivvy into providing content.

[Deacon Blues]

What real scum-motivation would I have to make today into a Hawk vs Nacho?

I don't find this point compelling. I see both alignments go into defensive/retaliatory mode when accused.

[ProHawk]

I could tell you what I would do as scum, but then I would have to kill you.

Also, could anyone explain to me why Kaze's claim pushes him up into the town-ranks? I have a hard time seeing a role that when claimed in thread with give two confirmed town in a 13 player game. Seems a little too OP to me.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Also hi bork

I treat fery as the only member of your hydra because that's how I read hydras, I choose the player I'm most comfortable with and try to read them

You were also wrong about your read on me and I had no meta with you so I didn't really find talking to you a priority

Do you have something you feel went unnoticed?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I could tell you what I would do as scum, but then I would have to kill you.

Also, could anyone explain to me why Kaze's claim pushes him up into the town-ranks? I have a hard time seeing a role that when claimed in thread with give two confirmed town in a 13 player game. Seems a little too OP to me.

Here we go, here we go

VOTE: Prohawk

Kaze does my action give you IC

[MafiaSSK]

I've been prodded. Activity to come tomorrow.