Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:20 am
I did:
↑ Belisarius wrote:I'd still prefer an aeroslot lynch based on DDD's play but I'll settle for Sera out of utter disgust with the current leading wagons.
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:40 am
"That's enough to begin with", Humpty Dumpty interrupted: "there are plenty of hard words there."
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:04 am
↑ Belisarius wrote:
I did:
↑ Belisarius wrote:I'd still prefer an aeroslot lynch based on DDD's play but I'll settle for Sera out of utter disgust with the current leading wagons.
So how do you reconcile that with your 149 and 155, where you avoid a Brantz wagon for being "too easy", but now you're all aboard the Seraph train to policy-lynch town?
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:08 am
Seraph's not too easy, the slot has been successfully flying under the radar all game.
I'm still pretty uneasy about the idea of a Brantz lynch.
I'm still pretty uneasy about the idea of a Brantz lynch.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:10 am
Actually, I can't place my finger on why, but the wagon on Seraph feels sorta like the flashwagon on me in Open 480
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:19 am
↑ Belisarius wrote:Seraph's not too easy, the slot has been successfully flying under the radar all game.
I'm still pretty uneasy about the idea of a Brantz lynch.
How does being under the radar make the lynch not-easy?
↑ Belisarius wrote:
A large amount of votes on one player without commensurate justification, and what makes it wrong is the lack of commensurate justification.
^ You said that an easy wagon is one without justification. What is the justification for this wagon?
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:20 am
And what don't you like about the BRantz wagon?
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:40 am
I am just a vt. Do what you gotta do axle.
@FA: why would I change something that works for me just because people have a hard time reading it correctly?
@FA: why would I change something that works for me just because people have a hard time reading it correctly?
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:42 am
Tier and Beli need serious looking into tomorrow.
Ready for hammer.
Ready for hammer.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:51 am
Agreed. Willing to hammer BRantz, someone wanted us to wait I believe?
UNVOTE:
UNVOTE:
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:03 am
except for this
he may have just meant don't derp hammer him, or he may want to be sure he can post, last reads in twilight. (as i did here) 102
Its only time, so I will wait.
Its currently 7:59 PDT. we have 35 hrs.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:07 am
Ok. If FAQ misses that, use your judgment.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:11 am
UNVOTE:
Pretty damn sure brantz is town due to latedt reactions to getting hammered.
VOTE: faq
I don't like their latest post wrt farside. Am somewhat okay with this lynch.
Pretty damn sure brantz is town due to latedt reactions to getting hammered.
VOTE: faq
I don't like their latest post wrt farside. Am somewhat okay with this lynch.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:11 am
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:12 am
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:19 am
Farside, brantz doesn't just give up as scum. I have proof of that. As town he does what he thinks is best for the town.
This is obviously the latter situation; he's accepting his lynch, not claiming something extravagant in the hopes of making the night. Even in his claiming post, he admits defeat. It's not 'now that this is out of the way, can we please lynch faq?'. Instead, he just takes the bullet.
Faq has a pretty decent chance of flipping scum imo with his latest post, muuuuuch much more likely than brantz flipping scum.
This is obviously the latter situation; he's accepting his lynch, not claiming something extravagant in the hopes of making the night. Even in his claiming post, he admits defeat. It's not 'now that this is out of the way, can we please lynch faq?'. Instead, he just takes the bullet.
Faq has a pretty decent chance of flipping scum imo with his latest post, muuuuuch much more likely than brantz flipping scum.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:33 am
↑ TierShift wrote:Farside, brantz doesn't just give up as scum. I have proof of that. As town he does what he thinks is best for the town.
This is obviously the latter situation; he's accepting his lynch, not claiming something extravagant in the hopes of making the night. Even in his claiming post, he admits defeat. It's not 'now that this is out of the way, can we please lynch faq?'. Instead, he just takes the bullet.
Faq has a pretty decent chance of flipping scum imo with his latest post, muuuuuch much more likely than brantz flipping scum.
If I told you I miss read your post, would you understand why?
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:49 am
I'm here. Nothing to say.
It's a curious situation; I don't know how to analyse it. The resistance on both wagons seems equal.
It's a curious situation; I don't know how to analyse it. The resistance on both wagons seems equal.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:03 am
↑ farside22 wrote:↑ TierShift wrote:Farside, brantz doesn't just give up as scum. I have proof of that. As town he does what he thinks is best for the town.
This is obviously the latter situation; he's accepting his lynch, not claiming something extravagant in the hopes of making the night. Even in his claiming post, he admits defeat. It's not 'now that this is out of the way, can we please lynch faq?'. Instead, he just takes the bullet.
Faq has a pretty decent chance of flipping scum imo with his latest post, muuuuuch much more likely than brantz flipping scum.
If I told you I miss read your post, would you understand why?
no. can you please vote faq tho?
Great, what do you think of brantz's latest posts?
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:52 am
VOTE: BRantz
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:54 am
↑ TierShift wrote:Farside, brantz doesn't just give up as scum. I have proof of that. As town he does what he thinks is best for the town.
This is obviously the latter situation; he's accepting his lynch, not claiming something extravagant in the hopes of making the night. Even in his claiming post, he admits defeat. It's not 'now that this is out of the way, can we please lynch faq?'. Instead, he just takes the bullet.
Faq has a pretty decent chance of flipping scum imo with his latest post, muuuuuch much more likely than brantz flipping scum.
Disagree with this wholeheartedly.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:18 am
↑ AxleGreaser wrote:↑ hi im Yakko wrote:catching up, ask me things. got some time.
I dont.
You are voting Brantz and were even before Tiers catchup.
Whats is your view of Tiers catchup posts?
They are fine. It's a catch up post. Not sure what you're measuring it against but what they give you is what you get be grateful.
↑ Valkyrie Mollie wrote:↑ AxleGreaser wrote:↑ hi im Yakko wrote:catching up, ask me things. got some time.
I dont.
You are voting Brantz and were even before Tiers catchup.
Whats is your view of Tiers catchup posts?
we think tier is town. not that you were asking us or anything.
seraph if you do not do something amazing soon we are lynching you. unless I get pple to see the light wrt to far. like I just kinda wanna scream "go to the light my children! just go!" at this point.
this is policy. Your next sentence tho what does it meant? No clue what you're saying.
thanks for the criticism. I suppose this is where I add a kettle being black comment?
↑ Elbirn wrote:Vla Posting wheee
To TSO. you said nothing but good things about me, then threw it out the windown with "elbirn trys Too hard to be town"? Literally what? If you read any of my games you'd see I play this way every game. It's a side effect of me having an Internet addiction and too much free time. but you don't say it based on my own playstyle, you compare it to yourself, which is just invalid and hokey.
To witness, why do you say nothing but bad things about tso and then end with "you're not a townread but there's common ground"? Your thought process is nonsense.
I have not seen this in awhile demanding someone town read you? That's how it read to me, lol.
And as far as the wp thing I'd say he might be seeing his biases or something? Just a thought.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:33 am
↑ Belisarius wrote:
So you're saying that in a high noise, low signal environment, our reads should somehow match, but they'd be different given more information, assuming we're both town. Stipulation rejected. We form reads differently, you and I, and using a disparity between our reads as the basis of a scumread makes about as much sense as using the average level of precipitation in Bishkek over the last 7 days to determine a player's alignment.
What is the noise and what is the signal? Would like to know what you actually meant instead of what I think you actually meant.
↑ Witness Protection wrote:
Your posts are full of this kind of thing and you tell me I'm shit posting?
Let's just say, even if you're Town, I doubt we'll be agreeing on much.
I don't think that is a bad thing tho. TSOs post like that make me think him town. Certainly not good but shitposting? I wouldn't call it that. He is saying what makes him uncomfortable.
↑ T S O wrote:↑ Belisarius wrote:
So you're saying that in a high noise, low signal environment, our reads should somehow match, but they'd be different given more information, assuming we're both town. Stipulation rejected. We form reads differently, you and I, and using a disparity between our reads as the basis of a scumread makes about as much sense as using the average level of precipitation in Bishkek over the last 7 days to determine a player's alignment.
In a high noise, low signal environment, the lack of signal should mean our reads converge more closely. I am using signal as the basis for my reads - so the only way that our reads can differ is if you are using noise as the basis for yours, which is terrible play, or if you are interpreting the signal differently to me - which I find hard to understand, given how limited it is.
What is the analogy even referring to? What is the noise and what is the signal?
↑ Belisarius wrote:Also, why is it significant that my reads differ from yours, but the same difference in every other player is irrelevant?
I see no scum motivation in that, but I'm curious as hell.
I second this question. iirc I didn't see it answered.
↑ BRantz wrote:So TSO your entire case for why I am scum is that I made a joke, and that you didn't like one of my votes? (which you then ignored the entire conversation between farside and I about the situation afterward). Color me unimpressed by your analysis.
Don't have time now, but will talk about all of my reads after I get out of class tomorrow.
Yeah bashing someone for their read usually just reinforces it. Point and case. I don't like this post. Color me unimpressed as well.
Seconded.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:39 am
What did you mean by wagon? As in you're wagon ing or there is a wagon on him?
because I don't see an explanation.
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:44 am
↑ TierShift wrote:
Why are you voting brantz?
I'm not super happy about either wagon, really. As in people that are on it. I do have a preference, though.
Sera wagon forms too fast to be scum
Brantz's latest reads are super opportunistic with his flip on me and the vote change due to readslist feels a bit forced (as in 'I don't have a good reason to change votes, but here have a readslist')
↑ TierShift wrote:I don't like how there is the 'maybe we'll vote sera' sentiment but no one actually does it while there's a bigger wagon. The wagon that forms now is huge and rapid and has a few players on it that look like they are reeeaaaallly happy to let go off the leading wagon (brantz), especially brantz himself looks very opportunistic in that regard.
I base my vote solely off his latest readslist, axle. Go reread his stances before the wagons changed and after they changed. They are extremely self-preserving.
hmmmm yo this first two posts are like a minute apart. And then it takes like 3 hours to make the above post (or is it the least above?) whatever I don't like this.