Newbie 1714 (Game Over)

[mhsmith0]

VOTE: Beeboy

why beeboy here sick? feels strategic.

[mhsmith0]

VOTE: beeboy

[Raskolnikov]

UNVOTE:

[Raskolnikov]

mhsmith please tell me you're town...

[mhsmith0]

lol rask. was it rask-beeboy all along? *crossing fingers*

[mhsmith0]

mhsmith please tell me you're town...

yes

[Raskolnikov]

Why would you hammer beeboy here??

[mhsmith0]

well whatever, we either just lost or we're in final LYLO/MYLO. *crossing fingers*

[mhsmith0]

Why would you hammer beeboy here??

figured it was beeboy-sick after all. gut.

[Sickofit1138]

Zyf don't take what I am saying as rude. That is not the way it is intended and in case you can't tell I am not a fan of rude additudes. And

Please

don't compare me to vandit, who was attacking out of the games spirit.
If you are taking what I am saying as that rude, then I sincerely apologize.

[mhsmith0]

might as well revote to make it super clear but yeah, it was hammer.

[Zyf]

Wait what?
Sick why are you voting beeboy after pointing at me?
Rask how is sick not scum? They've had odd moments early on and have been incredibly inconsistent toDay. They've also been flailing this whole time.
We need to wait for mh, then you'll have a chance to prove/redeem yourself.
However, I am personally confident sick is scum, especially since they throw out a vote that would lose town the game if sick sinehow really is town. Ergo, this.
VOTE: sickofit1138

Oh my fucking god guys what the actual fuck
Fuck you guys if you fuck up i swear

[Raskolnikov]

Okay you scumreading me then voting beeboy is scummy as fuck and I think we could have just lost here.

Assuming not though scum are going to kill between me/zyf tonight as the conftowns.

Zyf if you're reading this and I die I want you to be VERY careful deciding between sick and mhsmith especially since this hammer player was actually terrible.

[mhsmith0]

Wait what?
Sick why are you voting beeboy after pointing at me?
Rask how is sick not scum? They've had odd moments early on and have been incredibly inconsistent toDay. They've also been flailing this whole time.
We need to wait for mh, then you'll have a chance to prove/redeem yourself.
However, I am personally confident sick is scum, especially since they throw out a vote that would lose town the game if sick sinehow really is town. Ergo, this.
VOTE: sickofit1138

Oh my fucking god guys what the actual fuck
Fuck you guys if you fuck up i swear

Nah we're good. It's beeboy-sick. Has to be.

[mhsmith0]

lol so hard at the fake fighting if it was beeboy-rask though.

[Raskolnikov]

Zyf beeboy is hammered already and mhsmith did it in an incredibly questionable manner.
Either we just lost or one of us will be alive to decide tomorrow but please remember what I said about him.

[mhsmith0]

but seriously, you should still revote to make it super clear and no questions

[Raskolnikov]

This complete 180 on style from mhsmith from everything he's posted before this point is generally a huge post-hammer-win scumtell though.

[Zyf]

Here i'll make it clear
VOTE: beeboy

[mhsmith0]

thanks. also gg, and sorry for being a wolf.

[Raskolnikov]

I feel sick...

[mhsmith0]

So here's what I was working on, fwiw...

I'm still pretty sure that zyf is town. Presuming that's the case, there are three possible mafia teams:

beeboy-rask

Spoiler: VCA details

Ranger early vote leader (post RVS)

Ranger

(2):

Raskolnikov

, Zyf
Sickofit1138 (1):

sad1492

sad1492

(1): Sickofit1138

Raskolnikov

(1):

beeboy

No Vote (4): AYaLE_, dvds12,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

Sad reaches L-2

sad1492

(3): Sickofit1138,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

Sickofit1138 (2):

sad1492

, Zyf

Ranger

(1):

Raskolnikov

Raskolnikov

(1):

beeboy

No Vote (2):

Vandit24

, dvds12

Counter-wagon of sick reaches L-2

sad1492

(3): Sickofit1138,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

Sickofit1138 (3):

sad1492

, Zyf,

Vandit24

Raskolnikov

(1):

beeboy

No Vote (2): dvds12,

Raskolnikov

Hammer

sad1492

(5): Sickofit1138,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

, Zyf,

Vandit24

Raskolnikov

(1):

beeboy

Ranger

(1):

sad1492

Vandit24

(1):

Raskolnikov

No Vote (1): dvds12

Day 2
Vandit reaches L-2

Vandit24

(2): Zyf,

beeboy

No Vote (5): dvds12,

F-oh-ex

,

Raskolnikov

, Sickofit1138,

Vandit24

FOX votes

beeboy

Vandit24

(2): Zyf,

beeboy

beeboy

(1):

F-oh-ex

No Vote (4): dvds12,

Raskolnikov

, Sickofit1138,

Vandit24

Hammer

Vandit24

(4):

beeboy

, Sickofit1138, mhsmith0,

F-oh-ex

No Vote (3):

Raskolnikov

,

Vandit24

, Zyf

Thoughts:
1) If this is the team, then they've basically shown a game-long dedictation to distancing, which while possible is a very risky strategy to take, especially right off the bat (you never know which wagon will take off, and it'd be really hard for beeboy to find a believable excuse to hop off the Rask wagon if it picked up steam). Maybe that's the kind of ballsy strategy you choose when you're super sure you found the jk/cop/tracker, but since FOX was killed N2, I don't see that happening either.
2) Even beyond that, it's a pretty odd game state if this is the team. Both of them are well off the day 1 wagon, I don't


beeboy-sick

Spoiler: VCA details

Ranger early vote leader (post RVS)

Ranger

(2): Raskolnikov, Zyf

Sickofit1138

(1):

sad1492

sad1492

(1):

Sickofit1138

Raskolnikov (1):

beeboy

No Vote (4): AYaLE_, dvds12,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

Sad reaches L-2

sad1492

(3):

Sickofit1138

,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

Sickofit1138

(2):

sad1492

, Zyf

Ranger

(1): Raskolnikov
Raskolnikov (1):

beeboy

No Vote (2):

Vandit24

, dvds12

Counter-wagon of sick reaches L-2

sad1492

(3):

Sickofit1138

,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

Sickofit1138

(3):

sad1492

, Zyf,

Vandit24

Raskolnikov (1):

beeboy

No Vote (2): dvds12, Raskolnikov

Hammer

sad1492

(5):

Sickofit1138

,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

, Zyf,

Vandit24

Raskolnikov (1):

beeboy

Ranger

(1):

sad1492

Vandit24

(1): Raskolnikov
No Vote (1): dvds12

Day 2
Vandit reaches L-2

Vandit24

(2): Zyf,

beeboy

No Vote (5): dvds12,

F-oh-ex

, Raskolnikov,

Sickofit1138

,

Vandit24

FOX votes

beeboy

Vandit24

(2): Zyf,

beeboy

beeboy

(1):

F-oh-ex

No Vote (4): dvds12, Raskolnikov,

Sickofit1138

,

Vandit24

Hammer

Vandit24

(4):

beeboy

,

Sickofit1138

, mhsmith0,

F-oh-ex

No Vote (3): Raskolnikov,

Vandit24

, Zyf

Thoughts:
1) If this is the team, beeboy found something useful to push on early, sick found a sad wagon to hop on, and they were able to ride out the brief pressure when sick was L-2 on day 1.
2) The day 2 pattern is a bit odd if that's the team, but this was a situation where basically the whole town was wolf-reading Vandit, so bunching in the final vote isn't necessarily disqualifying.


rask-sick

Spoiler: VCA details

Ranger early vote leader (post RVS)

Ranger

(2):

Raskolnikov

, Zyf

Sickofit1138

(1):

sad1492

sad1492

(1):

Sickofit1138

Raskolnikov

(1): beeboy
No Vote (4): AYaLE_, dvds12,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

Sad reaches L-2

sad1492

(3):

Sickofit1138

,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

Sickofit1138

(2):

sad1492

, Zyf

Ranger

(1):

Raskolnikov

Raskolnikov

(1): beeboy
No Vote (2):

Vandit24

, dvds12

Counter-wagon of sick reaches L-2

sad1492

(3):

Sickofit1138

,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

Sickofit1138

(3):

sad1492

, Zyf,

Vandit24

Raskolnikov

(1): beeboy
No Vote (2): dvds12,

Raskolnikov

Hammer

sad1492

(5):

Sickofit1138

,

F-oh-ex

,

Ranger

, Zyf,

Vandit24

Raskolnikov

(1): beeboy

Ranger

(1):

sad1492

Vandit24

(1):

Raskolnikov

No Vote (1): dvds12

Day 2
Vandit reaches L-2

Vandit24

(2): Zyf, beeboy
No Vote (5): dvds12,

F-oh-ex

,

Raskolnikov

,

Sickofit1138

,

Vandit24

FOX votes beeboy

Vandit24

(2): Zyf, beeboy
beeboy (1):

F-oh-ex

No Vote (4): dvds12,

Raskolnikov

,

Sickofit1138

,

Vandit24

Hammer

Vandit24

(4): beeboy,

Sickofit1138

, mhsmith0,

F-oh-ex

No Vote (3):

Raskolnikov

,

Vandit24

, Zyf

Thoughts:
1) If this is the team, Rask hopped on Ranger, and then found something useful to push on with Vandit, sick found a sad wagon to hop on, and they were able to ride out the brief pressure when sick was L-2 on day 1. Also, Rask's "this was the scummiest thing ever" bit on would probably be the attempt to discredit a former Sick voter without being really obvious about it.
2) Day two is about the normal pattern I'd expect. One on, one off, neither being the primary driver of a wagon that was pretty close to inevitable anyway.

Overall: I'd rather lynch sick today and let beeboy and rask fight it out tomorrow. I'm pretty sure that beeboy is the town in that pair but I wouldn't want to bet the game on it.

[mhsmith0]

Anyone want to guess who my buddy was before mod shuts it down? Obviously it wasn't beeboy.

[Raskolnikov]

mhsmith/sick why did you kill ranger n1?
How did you PR-hunt f-oh-x when I assumed only beeboy could?

Zyf having been scum the whole time is almost believable compared to this result...

[mhsmith0]

FWIW, I really do hope you guys had fun, and I have a few things to say that hopefully will help you guys improve. There were some legitimate bright spots in this game, and you shouldn't feel badly about the result.

PS I nabbed the cop, like a for real nab (though in fairness I thought he was the tracker and was super worried that beeboy was the doc and would save him)