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In post 523, Florestan wrote:Karnos trust me you didn't just nail the scum team based off of that.

In post 525, Florestan wrote:Panther you need to open brackets before you close them.

In post 458, Ranger wrote:

PantherPunt wrote:the fact that others pointed out the fallacy of her shadowguy read (the only one she's given) yet she decided not to respond to it at all is definitely interesting

This is also wrong.

I did respond.

I posted that on page one, my reason for townreading Shadow was twofold.
First, the moderror argument.

Second, because of 17 by ploben.

The former, by the mod himself, was proven to be untrue.
The latter still holds, and Shadow's play since then has cemented his spot as a townread anyway.
I have stated all of this before; none of this is new.
I can explain at any time, and probably soon, I will. (Depending on my mood.)

In post 465, Ranger wrote:(448 is also a scum post, but I'll get into the why later. Got other things I need to do at this moment.)

In post 472, Ranger wrote:For Shadow_step, the initial reason I had my read has been explained. But as for why it remains even after the mod has explicitly said my reason was wrong...well, for a start, I haven't liked any of the pressure on him.

But further, his entrance into the game, 33, is something that I currently believe is something he'd be more likely to do as town than as scum, albeit only just. I really liked his inquiry towards Dunnstral in 65. Where the townread REALLY kicks in though is with 231: that is

exactly

what my issue was with Alpaca. As in, while I'll be restating it when I get to Alpaca, Shadow_step perfectly vocalized my feelings before I had actually vocalized my feelings. (This is the advantage to my readslists. He had no way of knowing that was my reasoning.) There was suspicion on ploben. Alpaca linked to something, attempting to defuse suspicion somewhat, but did literally nothing else

at all

. 294 is a great continuation of the Alpaca case as well. Additionally, while he acknowledges the scumminess behind karnos, he does

not

pursue him, instead asking for support on Alpaca.

This is why he's town. He's doing his own thing, and doing it very,

very

well.

In post 480, Ranger wrote:I'm going to skip Chip Butty unless there's actually a serious need for it. I believe he's mostly townread. I mean, I could share

my

reasons for townreading him, but not much of a point doing so when everyone is townreading him.

Instead,

the reason Florestan immediately became a townread is because of 20: THIS is a reason why ploben became a scumread.

I liked the follow-through in 24 as well. 52 was an excellent vote, following through and making a valid point about ploben. I also like the tone behind 80: this isn't scum trying to be helpful without being helpful (I'll show you an example of

that

later!), this is town annoyed and calling people out. I also like 84. 163 is a fairly decent first-time encounter with me, but I really liked 165. Florestan themselves points out how the effort behind 284 was town, but some particular highlights include the BTD6 read and the ploben read. 368 and 403 also read as town ways to handle their vote. Then, we get 451, which is an excellent question.

All-in-all, Florestan is really, really town, even if Florestan's current reads kind-of suck.

In post 483, Ranger wrote: For people saying I've done nothing but defend myself, they're utter hypocrites if they haven't noticed that Alpaca was doing basically the same thing, which you can see in 270. More defense in 273. 281 is worthless, and 304 is more defense.

In post 3, Ranger wrote:You gonna delete my ninja postin?

In post 537, Chip Butty wrote:

In post 3, Ranger wrote:You gonna delete my ninja postin?

Here's a thought that I would like some comment on: Ranger as JOAT. Yes, my RVS joke again, but not joking so much this time. In fact, not joking.

This post from Ranger containing the possible codeword "ninja" appeared just six minutes after the OP. That is, when the phase 1 role-PMs were circulating, but BEFORE scum decided which extra powers they wanted and whether to recruit.

So, that kills it, right?

That's what I was thinking up until recently. But, consider this: Scum role mods are CHOSEN, while Town ones are RANDOM. That means that, even though the Mafia discussion about whether to recruit and what powers to get was still in the future when this post appeared, scum!Ranger could be virtually certain of getting JOAT simply by telling her scummate she wanted it. That means she could signal early with confidence. The timestamps turn out to be irrelevant. Why signal? Because she intended to not recruit the traitor, and thus limit the number of additional powers Town would get.

Thoughts?

In post 537, Chip Butty wrote:

In post 3, Ranger wrote:You gonna delete my ninja postin?

Here's a thought that I would like some comment on: Ranger as JOAT. Yes, my RVS joke again, but not joking so much this time. In fact, not joking.

This post from Ranger containing the possible codeword "ninja" appeared just six minutes after the OP. That is, when the phase 1 role-PMs were circulating, but BEFORE scum decided which extra powers they wanted and whether to recruit.

So, that kills it, right?

That's what I was thinking up until recently. But, consider this: Scum role mods are CHOSEN, while Town ones are RANDOM. That means that, even though the Mafia discussion about whether to recruit and what powers to get was still in the future when this post appeared, scum!Ranger could be virtually certain of getting JOAT simply by telling her scummate she wanted it. That means she could signal early with confidence. The timestamps turn out to be irrelevant. Why signal? Because she intended to not recruit the traitor, and thus limit the number of additional powers Town would get.

Thoughts?

In post 542, ploben wrote:

In post 537, Chip Butty wrote:

In post 3, Ranger wrote:You gonna delete my ninja postin?

Here's a thought that I would like some comment on: Ranger as JOAT. Yes, my RVS joke again, but not joking so much this time. In fact, not joking.

This post from Ranger containing the possible codeword "ninja" appeared just six minutes after the OP. That is, when the phase 1 role-PMs were circulating, but BEFORE scum decided which extra powers they wanted and whether to recruit.

So, that kills it, right?

That's what I was thinking up until recently. But, consider this: Scum role mods are CHOSEN, while Town ones are RANDOM. That means that, even though the Mafia discussion about whether to recruit and what powers to get was still in the future when this post appeared, scum!Ranger could be virtually certain of getting JOAT simply by telling her scummate she wanted it. That means she could signal early with confidence. The timestamps turn out to be irrelevant. Why signal? Because she intended to not recruit the traitor, and thus limit the number of additional powers Town would get.

Thoughts?

I would like to comment on this after Ranger responds to it.

In post 546, ploben wrote:

In post 542, ploben wrote:

In post 537, Chip Butty wrote:

In post 3, Ranger wrote:You gonna delete my ninja postin?

Here's a thought that I would like some comment on: Ranger as JOAT. Yes, my RVS joke again, but not joking so much this time. In fact, not joking.

This post from Ranger containing the possible codeword "ninja" appeared just six minutes after the OP. That is, when the phase 1 role-PMs were circulating, but BEFORE scum decided which extra powers they wanted and whether to recruit.

So, that kills it, right?

That's what I was thinking up until recently. But, consider this: Scum role mods are CHOSEN, while Town ones are RANDOM. That means that, even though the Mafia discussion about whether to recruit and what powers to get was still in the future when this post appeared, scum!Ranger could be virtually certain of getting JOAT simply by telling her scummate she wanted it. That means she could signal early with confidence. The timestamps turn out to be irrelevant. Why signal? Because she intended to not recruit the traitor, and thus limit the number of additional powers Town would get.

Thoughts?

I would like to comment on this after Ranger responds to it.

Actually, you know what, screw it. I don't think it matters either way if I wait for her to respond to it. I can't imagine the response is going to reveal anything other than a pre-game post. Saying that, here is my take:

I think the only way this works is that if Ranger is actually the Mafia Traitor and she is signaling to her team to pick the JOAT role as well as alert them she is the traitor, because the 2 goons obviously don't know who the traitor is. This would allow them either to pick another PR or at the very least not have to use the recruit and give town another PR.