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[mozamis]

@Moz

Though your vote is confusing to me. If you think there are 2 scum off the TIAM wagon then there's a 50% chance to lynch scum in Prism, BuJaber, Leeoon, Lalendra but only a 20% chance in Archwing, Sephiroth, Roy Tagliaferro, TheGoldenParadox, Chumba. Wouldn't it make more sense FYPOV to lynch off the wagon?

yeah lik ei say, forget that. it was alate night post (??) and i hant really caught up at all.
Out of that lot, I could vote Leon, Lalendra, Seph, ROy or Golden. But not really cos they were on and off wagon.
Who knows what scum did, could be on or off wagon?

[Nero Cain]

Everyone should read Arch's case on Seph, p461. Entirely agree. Seph is very likely scum.

like this is very go with the flowy and it irks me a bit that you were town reading him all d1 and then he's suddenly your top scumread. Eh, I'd lynch you and several others before him.

[mozamis]

Everyone should read Arch's case on Seph, p461. Entirely agree. Seph is very likely scum.

unfortunately i can't really trust anything arch says anymore. he attempted to deceive people at my expense and I can't see town motivation. If I read that post, I will wonder if he is being honest or attempting to deceive people again.

then either trust me or read seph, particlalrly end of day 1. looks dodgy to me. his "TIAM is absurd so scum" was weak.

[mozamis]

I'm not misrepping you. I am, TBF, you did say "guess" but I still felt like even if that was a guess you'd still believe in it. So I felt like it was a valid question to ask. I find the timing a little bit odd that as soon as I ask you then you're like "OH I need to violently change my reads!"

Seph is prob town.

no, he isnt. Why do you think he is?
i didnt do much day 1, and i hadnt caught up day 2, so yeah, i wanted to re-assess my reads.
lik ei say, i dont care about the "on/off wagon" stuff, so dotn worry about it, just focus on who is scummy.

[mozamis]

Everyone should read Arch's case on Seph, p461. Entirely agree. Seph is very likely scum.

like this is very go with the flowy and it irks me a bit that you were town reading him all d1 and then he's suddenly your top scumread. Eh, I'd lynch you and several others before him.

then you'd be wrong.
your prob just OMGUSing me because i just said you could be scum. I dont want to get into a big row with you because i suspect Seph more.
Obviously i am going to re-assess my reads from Day 1. We got a VT flip and a nk, info has changed, reads will likely change.
And its not "go with the flowy",i came out Day 2 saying Seph was scum.

[Nero Cain]

Any day without TIAM is better :/

yeah more info w/out analysis
could have scum Nero on our hands

I don't feel like this is something that town says about someone they were scumreading yesterday.He knows that TIAM was playing anti-town and being hard to get along with. He should be glad that a hard to get along with useless player that HE WAS SCUMREADING is dead but he's gonna take this opportunity to mock me and act like the TIAM was bad. WTF!?!

VOTE: Moz

[mozamis]

god man you are so OMGUsy.

[Nero Cain]

I dont want to get into a big row with you

b/c I will eat you up, little boy. Sure its OMGUSY but I feel like I have valid concerns.

[mozamis]

from my POV your last few posts were qusetions and statements, not reads.
Hence my SUSPICION OF YOU. Not saying you are def. scum.

@ Dont be rude, ok? You have to deal with people suspecting you in mafia.

[Nero Cain]

Can we get a response to 530?

[mozamis]

anyway, anatagonistic Nero - although it means he is not on form and his reads will suck- prob means town Nero. So thanks for the read, I guess.

[Nero Cain]

from my POV your last few posts were qusetions and statements, not reads.
Hence my SUSPICION OF YOU. Not saying you are def. scum.

Why are asking questions and making statements scummy?

anyway, anatagonistic Nero - although it

means he is not on form and his reads will suck

- prob means town Nero. So thanks for the read, I guess.

And you felt the need to discredit me why?

[mozamis]

So P.OE
Town Moz, Nero, Arch, Chumba, Prism
Prob town: Buj
Pos scum: Lal, Golden, Roy , Leon
Scum: seph.
So 3 scum in 5!

[mozamis]

from my POV your last few posts were qusetions and statements, not reads.
Hence my SUSPICION OF YOU. Not saying you are def. scum.

Why are asking questions and making statements scummy?

anyway, anatagonistic Nero - although it

means he is not on form and his reads will suck

- prob means town Nero. So thanks for the read, I guess.

And you felt the need to discredit me why?

this is mafia, i saw you making staements and asking questions, not giving out reads - sometimes that is scum tactics.
Mohammed, you're sensitive. I chucked out avague suspicion of you and you HAVE GONE MENTAL.
Calm down.
I was rude to you because you were rude to me "little boy" - I dont take kindly to aggression.

[mozamis]

530 was just me worried that you wre making an "empty post", info /out analysis.
Nothing to do woth TIAM.

[Nero Cain]

TBF, the last time you did this whole "vague suspicion" on me thing you flipped scum so

I've been pretty vocal with my reads, I'm not sure why you'd think I'd of not been giving reads unless you aren't really reading this game.

Sorry, but don't buy the explanation for 530

[Chumba]

reread seraph's end of days posts, and idk it's kind of hard to gauge alignment from it. he's saying what most of us felt, definitely what I felt. This is the issue we have when players play like shit. Scum and town can join a wagon with justified reasons. At least serpah was kind of pushing for the wagon to happen.

let's look at Roy.

238Not sold on tiam being scum
251Now tiam is in his scum pool but i don't see why
post 300 - asks luca why tiam and not Leeon which is weird since both are in his lynch pool. Could be just trying to look busy but idk
342he just settles for tiam. Settling imo implies he was pushing somebody else first and that wasn't happening.

Roy wasn't pushing for anyone's lynch though. He voted Bu but removed it 2 whole posts later. Did you get that? 238 he votes, 240 he unvotes.

Bu is in his lynch pool, TIAM puts him to L-1, roy backs off but keeps bu in his lynch pool.

If I am right at roy, I will probably want to look into bu more for possible buddy, but nothing from roy looks town.

[Sephiroth]

Everyone should read Arch's case on Seph, p461. Entirely agree. Seph is very likely scum.

This pings me in all sorts of ways. Also I'm not scum and I'm pretty sure you should be tr-ing me here based on reading my behavior in my last game. I'm not sure how scum reading me here makes sense given what you know about my meta. Maybe it would be easier to discuss if you elaborated on what you agree with rather than naked sheeping someone else's case.

[Sephiroth]

Chumba: I stated pretty clearly that I was scumreading TIAM on gut even though his play didn't seem to line up with what I expect from his meta.

[Chumba]

I just said I didn’t have an issue with your push. Idk why you felt the need to make that post towards me.

[Roy Tagliaferro]

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[Chumba]

Wonder who talked about ongoing games.

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This is a mod edit.

[Nero Cain]

530 was just me worried that you wre making an "empty post", info /out analysis.
Nothing to do woth TIAM.

Just thinking about this even makes less sense. What possible scum motivation would you think I had for outting that TIAM was dead? Like its something that everyone already knew so why would I repeat it? It feels like you are just throwing out a buzzword and hoping that it looks like a decent explanation but when held up to scrutiny it makes no sense.

[Prism]

V/LA until Friday