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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:09 pm
by the worst
I like the vibe w ine/enac

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:19 pm
by Ausuka
In post 520, Pine wrote: Ausuka is scum.
But I'm not though. People keep saying this and I don't get it. Like, even if we say that Pine is somehow cleared of sabbing n2 which I don't get, eddisae is making the claim I'm scum on the assumption they're town and it feels like a lot of people aren't even considering the other option. ENAC has been on both sabs, and they're using me as the scapegoat for n2, and now they're using camn as the scapegoat for n3.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:26 pm
by the worst
Gimme a shiny gamesolve ausuka

Say I am literally dumb and will just follow whatever is most convincing, convince me with all your heart

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:28 pm
by Ausuka
rn my scumteam includes you and I don't really want to try and convince you you're scum so...

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:30 pm
by Ausuka
can you explain and ? because when you automatically sheep eddisae when they just say "I am town so it wasn't me who sabotaged it" that makes me think you're definitely scum here.

like, eddisae just comes in like "I didn't sab, it was ausuka" and you're just like "yeah sure"

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:16 pm
by the worst
Fmpov that could have proved or disproved a 3p townblock, whats bad about that?

The solve effort is kinda as important as your solution here. You're currently scum by PoE so talk me through /A/ theory of some kind if youre town

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:32 pm
by nancy
In post 505, ENAC EIDDE wrote:ok nancy so we're both on the same page with Ausuka wolf is this correct?
If so, what do you think this post gets made with as Ausuka's wolfbuddy?
Because I really think it does.
In post 107, the worst wrote:ftr correct play for spy!enac or spy!pine is also to sab so do not PoE Ausuka out based on the outcome

VOTE: pine, enac, ausuka
hm i'm bad i forgot he did that

if he's with ausuka then he's basically tmi-ing that she is mafia?

in the worlds where tw is town making that post then he's what, assuming that exactly one of them is mafia? and thinks people will assume it's ausuka? i don't understand why he would hammer though in that world? or why his focus is on ausuka in the way that it is

i don't really understand his mindset there if he's town at all actually

it's like he's making the post in a world where ausuka has already sabbed

and if they're partners then he's presumably trying to deflect from that

i guess i could see that world?

i don't really townread tw i just have him as hard unaligned with pine

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:36 pm
by nancy
In post 69, the worst wrote:
In post 66, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: ausuka, eddisae
I think I like this better now. I want to tr pine but I'm still suspicious that he's in practically every nomination. I don't know why people assume that scum won't sabotage.
No sab means no info

If aus/eddie sab'd it means
33% aus is scum
33% eddie is scum
33% chance both are scum

It's just too much info to give out imo, mish2 sab is fine

pedit: ausuka gets me. ;n;
mmm this is a post

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:07 pm
by nancy
hum

so i just had a thought

mafia need 2 to sabotage to win a point tonight

meaning we can actually send one mafia and it won't matter

so what we should be focusing on is unaligned pairs and sending them together

alisae hydra is basically always town and they're unaligned with everyone except maybe keychain

camn is basically always mafia, ausuka is almost always mafia

meaning am never sending those two and always sending aslan

pine/keychain can easily be a team
pine/tw are never a team
tw/keychain could be a team?

so unless aslan is mafia or my unaligned read on pine/tw is wrong then there's never more than one in the vote regardless of who is mafia

Vote: nancy, alisae/eddie, pine, tw


then tomorrow we have to sort 2 of keychain/tw/pine

once keychain starts posting actual things it should be fairly easy to read her one way or the other

or if she doesn't then she might be mafia but we can cross that bridge when we come to it, and hopefully she comes back before the end of dayphase anyway and we don't even have to think about it

also given that it will be lylo wagons will be a thing

and we will hopefully be able to get an unaligned read on whichever of pine/tw are town

or both if we are somehow in that world?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:17 pm
by the worst
Pretty sure I can get behind you here nancy.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:45 pm
by camn
In post 533, nancy wrote:camn is basically always mafia, ausuka is almost always mafia

meaning am never sending those two and always sending aslan
if you are town we can never win.
Cuz we need two in a row.. with all town on the last one.. . meaning DEFinitely me.. and
probably
Ausuka need to go on the last mission.

How can I convince you?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:15 am
by nancy
In post 535, camn wrote:
In post 533, nancy wrote:camn is basically always mafia, ausuka is almost always mafia

meaning am never sending those two and always sending aslan
if you are town we can never win.
Cuz we need two in a row.. with all town on the last one.. . meaning DEFinitely me.. and
probably
Ausuka need to go on the last mission.

How can I convince you?
i think if you were town you would probably already know the answer to that

<3

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:23 am
by camn
Well..I would sheep your vote- but I feel like that team is a loss for sure, and I can't stomach the thought. It would be reckless...even for me.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:53 am
by Pine
Actually...I think nancy might have it. My PoE has keychain and tw remaining, and I've been hard TRing tw for a while now.

Withholding my vote for now to encourage further discussion, but I'm pretty sure Pine/Enac/nancy/the worst is the solve.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:54 am
by the worst
So you and nancy reached the same conclusion?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:57 am
by camn
Gods I hate you. Such scumfuckery.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:57 am
by Pine
We got there in pretty different ways, but yeah.

You know, despite all this angst, the only different between my reads now and the last dayphase is solving the nancy/camn dichotomy.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:57 am
by camn
Not you, duckiling.
Though you are also a cheeky scumfuck.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:59 am
by Pine
Well, always.

Just not here.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:39 pm
by the worst
Ily camn but NO YUOU

pine the camn/nancy dichotomy cannot be mechanically solved, nor could it by last night's actions :( in hindsight it's not much of a dichotomy and I am pretty comfortable with Enac's solve of it

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:15 pm
by Pine
I knew it couldn't be solved by last night. That's why I fought tooth and nail against sending nancy/camn together. Surprise surprise, there was a sabotage, and we can't mechanically tell which of them it is. If we'd sent Enac, camn, and myself, a sab would have sufficiently proven camn to be scum. Now I'm wishing it were Enac/Pine/keychain, because that would be a definitive game solve.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:19 pm
by the worst
What do you think of Enac's view on nancy/camn?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:23 pm
by Pine
Enac TRs nancy and SRs camn. We got there different ways, but agreed in the end.

Honestly, the fact that we have convergent conclusions with divergent origins makes it a pretty strong correlation.

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:43 pm
by the worst
In post 547, Pine wrote:Honestly, the fact that we have convergent conclusions with divergent origins makes it a pretty strong correlation.
These words man
I think I drooled a bit

Either I am scum's bitch or nancy enac and yourself are town

But Ausuka Keychain and camn dont seem to be trying at all?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 1:59 pm
by Pine
I think that's the proof.

In this game, the final day is essentially "guess all the Town or lose". I think they don't believe it's possible, and so they're being low effort. I know if I were Town about to lose the game because I was the one the bloc was getting wrong, I'd be screaming my head off trying to change minds. They're not.