Micro 857: Burden of Proficiency Mafia

Enter · Post Post #525 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:29 am

I think you're scum. I'm working through associatives.

Shoshin · Post Post #526 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:31 am

I'm so glad I don't have to sort Enter this game.

Michael Scott · Post Post #527 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:38 am

In post 508, u r a person 2 wrote:I do my best to sort people, but no I'm not big on meta dives. Very rarely have I gone back to try and confirm something via meta.

And because of the assumption in your question that you believe meta dives to be worthwhile, I'll expect you to confirm that.

Yeah, Meta is a useful tool to discern if something is AI - especially if you're scumreading them for it. Especially here, since we get just one Lynch.

Michael Scott · Post Post #528 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:40 am

In post 510, u r a person 2 wrote:What did shoshin lie about?

That she asked that question and you answered it earlier in the thread.

Enter · Post Post #529 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:41 am

I'm also glad I don't have to sort me this game. I'm not playing my scum game or my town game.

Michael Scott · Post Post #530 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:42 am

Shoshin, you asked me for my reads when I'd already posted a preliminary readslist. I answered you about Saudade - no follow-up?

Shoshin · Post Post #531 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:44 am

I'm waiting for you to do your meta check.

Michael Scott · Post Post #532 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:45 am

In post 527, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 508, u r a person 2 wrote:I do my best to sort people, but no I'm not big on meta dives. Very rarely have I gone back to try and confirm something via meta.

And because of the assumption in your question that you believe meta dives to be worthwhile, I'll expect you to confirm that.
Yeah, Meta is a useful tool to discern if something is AI - especially if you're scumreading them for it. Especially here, since we get just one Lynch.

So can you spell out your reasoning in detail for him being obvscum?

u r a person 2 · Post Post #533 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:46 am

In post 527, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 508, u r a person 2 wrote:I do my best to sort people, but no I'm not big on meta dives. Very rarely have I gone back to try and confirm something via meta.

And because of the assumption in your question that you believe meta dives to be worthwhile, I'll expect you to confirm that.
Yeah, Meta is a useful tool to discern if something is AI - especially if you're scumreading them for it. Especially here, since we get just one Lynch.

Yep, agreed. But I'm still not going to do it. That would be a quick trip to burning out for me, and when you meta me you will find that to be a consistent position of mine.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #534 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:46 am

In post 532, Michael Scott wrote:So can you spell out your reasoning in detail for him being obvscum?

Is this to me?

I've said no one is obv!scum

Enter · Post Post #535 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:47 am

URAP is this your town game or your scum game?

Michael Scott · Post Post #536 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:47 am

In post 531, Shoshin wrote:I'm waiting for you to do your meta check.

You'll need to give me time for that - I'm busy and on mobile.
Meanwhile, is my agreement/disagreement on that meta of Saudade your only method of sorting me?

Michael Scott · Post Post #537 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:47 am

In post 479, u r a person 2 wrote:saudade is scummy af.

Sorry, I meant this. Why he's scummy AF.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #538 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:49 am

In post 535, Enter wrote:URAP is this your town game or your scum game?

This is my town game, although the number of active players and the state of reads lead me to being rather fluffy last night

Shoshin · Post Post #539 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:49 am

You're asking pointless questions, MS.

Michael Scott · Post Post #540 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:50 am

In post 533, u r a person 2 wrote:Yep, agreed. But I'm still not going to do it. That would be a quick trip to burning out for me, and when you meta me you will find that to be a consistent position of mine.

Interesting - so if I assert that a behavior from X slot is NAI from meta, you'd just buy it?

Enter · Post Post #541 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:50 am

if you could lynch any two people right now who would it be?

Michael Scott · Post Post #542 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:51 am

In post 539, Shoshin wrote:You're asking pointless questions, MS.

It was rhetorical to a fair extent.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #543 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:53 am

these posts are all in the range of kind-of-scummy to scummy-af

Spoiler:

u r a person 2 · Post Post #544 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:54 am

In post 540, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 533, u r a person 2 wrote:Yep, agreed. But I'm still not going to do it. That would be a quick trip to burning out for me, and when you meta me you will find that to be a consistent position of mine.
Interesting - so if I assert that a behavior from X slot is NAI from meta, you'd just buy it?

No, but I have a reasonable expectation that you will meta dive me, so you will find it to be true on your own.

Not sure how this is tough to grasp.

Michael Scott · Post Post #545 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:56 am

I believe you believe your stated stance. That wasn't the purpose of the conversation.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #546 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:57 am

I'm glad someone understands the purpose of this conversation. =)

Michael Scott · Post Post #547 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:57 am

In post 543, u r a person 2 wrote:these posts are all in the range of kind-of-scummy to scummy-af

Explain the scum motivation in any?

Shoshin · Post Post #548 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:57 am

In post 543, u r a person 2 wrote:these posts are all in the range of kind-of-scummy to scummy-af

Spoiler:
In post 371, Saudade wrote:im not reading all of that

In post 384, Saudade wrote:
In post 352, RadiantCowbells wrote:one of my strongest traits as town is my ability to not confbias on my own reads and to reevaluate when shown evidence that I'm wrong on something.

don't BoP my reads initially, develop your own reads and then show them to me, then when you've shown me the case sheep me if I still disagree.
hahahahaha

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

In post 385, Saudade wrote:okay ill read your reads hang on but this was funny

In post 387, Saudade wrote:
In post 353, Michael Scott wrote:
In post 350, Shoshin wrote:I don't have high enough IQ to follow your reasoning, MS.
I mean it's simple.
I'm town so both scum have to be in the other four slots.

Assert Saudade town: One pair in {RC, Shoshin, URAP} has to be SvS.
Eliminate all SvS pairings in {RC, Shoshin, URAP} and it contradicts the above -> confidence that Saudade is town.
you marked me town thats good I mark you town as well

I also dont follow the pairings logic as to why you decided im town though

In post 393, Saudade wrote:I bet you scumslipped you knew I'm town and just wrote what you knew instead of what you wanted to fake
HAHA

In post 400, Saudade wrote:Explain the pairing logic which concluded that I'm scum
if its sane you might be town
if it isnt...

HANS

GET THE FLAMEWEFFER

In post 410, Saudade wrote:just mark me town

In post 412, Saudade wrote:if you're town you should mark me town because we're both town
if you're scum just mark me town because you'll have an either time mislynching the other players

In post 420, Saudade wrote:No I'm just going to obvtown
making reads is too much effort and I'm usually wrong anyway

I don't think the posts are that scummy when taken alone. 420 especially feels town if you don't know Saudade's meta for saying the same exact thing as scum.

u r a person 2 · Post Post #549 (ISO) » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:00 am

I don't know how 420 would look townie at all. He's not obv!towning. He doesn't seem to be on any trajectory to obv!town. The post is a deflection of RC's request for reads, which is scummy on it's own. And he's undercutting his own ability to read which is next level fence-sitting since he hasn't even picked a fence to sit on.

It's a scummy post.

This should serve as response to both of your posts