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Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:50 pm**

Grumpy I challenge you to a Duel Of The Fates!

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:50 pm**

datis a perfect pagetop ty ty

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:51 pm**

UNVOTE:
VOTE: iconeum

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:55 pm**

oh boy oh boy that's pressure
uh ok
help
I'm suddenly realising this game hasn't been all that Spicy
I'm glad you reassessed ss / your first comment was kinda surface-only; I am slightly Apprehensive about his alignment but that first post you quoted really didn't strike me as phayke at all

I have this weird feeling I'm doing that thing where I townread people who think like me and scumread people whose reads are different and I suppose I'd like a breakthrough to make me realise whether or not this feeling is valid

are you able to expand on what you're Vibing about umlaut's posts? (Assuming you're treating vibing as an explicit town indicator)

I get the impression you and Hoopla have history, so I might outsource a little bit of analysis of her range to you. I've heard through ~certain sources~ that she has a spectacular mechgame. Do you have a strong grasp of her non-mechanical playstyle? / Outside of non-manipulative data analysis how do you feel about her game related content?

could you talk to me about how you feel about the cat? I'm literally in their pocket whether they want me to be or not

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:58 pm**

In post 476, the worst wrote:i was going to do a triangle but it felt Inadequate

Spoiler:

analysing my own reads for example you can almost draw a straight line through the players on this list who I am like, social with (outlier being iconeum because

)

I appreciate you lumping mine & datisi's solving efforts together because I've been a little bit more null on him than I'd like to be; in a ~rand game where he was town i would have him in the top right corner at this point regardless of my own alignment and it's kinda got me scratching my chin a little

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:59 pm**

In post 282, Iconeum wrote:
In post 259, Hoopla wrote:i'm unsure what to make of the gypyx fake-hammer and fake-reaction fiasco.

when you have players acting in a disingenuous way in order to harvest reactions, you risk players responding in kind (which is what gypyx did).

so, now the question shifts from "was gypyx's reaction genuine?", to "was the decision to fake a reaction to a fake hammer town?", which is just too flimsy of a premise to really parse anything meaningful imo.

if pressed, my intuition leans town on gypyx because it's kind of overt and bombastic to respond to a fake hammer with an equally facetious reaction test.
UNVOTE:

while i agree that the reaction was townish, i'm not sure of it was actually a fake hammer

In post 489, Iconeum wrote:good, me 2

i've found 1 scum already, and i'm working on nr2

In post 505, Iconeum wrote:not really actually

gypyx is scum

iamasuername is a good wagon for the moment, and hoopla's response to it was... off

i've a couple small townreads, which are based more on gut then anything else

and i've been open about everything so you should have no problem reading me at all

Here's something that can be explained. You unvoted Gypyx because you thought he looked more towny, but now you're back to calling him scum without any Gypyx posts in the intermission.

VOTE: Ico

>:€

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:59 pm**

actually I'm quite pleased Greyons is my strongest townread and word is my weirdest tonal gut townping because those *aren't* players I'm strongly familiar with. I think I'm accidentally nullreading/giving more of a pass to players I know better, there we go.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:00 am**

In post 530, Grumpy Cat wrote:>:€

how the fuck can I not be pocketed by this come on

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:01 am**

Spoiler: do not open if you are not a dragon, if you are a dragon please open

In post 438, Datisi wrote:ok so grumpy i like them. i feel like i can follow what they're thinking even inbetween their shitposting. it's fine. it's cool. i like this cat.

ico i am aware has not done much yet and i am aware that for Reasons i'm gonna be a bit biased in my read for now. but like. i don't feel like i see anything alarming. i don't wanna go into paranoia mindfucks about him already.

drd i just feel like i read his posts and go "hey that's what i was thinking" (292, 302, 266, 153) and like for this gamestate where i feel like i'm missing Actual Townreads this is fine

s_s i'm just having gut town on. i don't know why, i don't know which posts are doing it, but it's a warm feeling and i'm gonna run with it for now

word i feel like i'm flip-flopping on? like now the more i look the posts look Good and Sincere even tho i don't know how much i like the content of some of them

clover and green are both like slightly towards the town part. i kinda vibe with the explaination for why clover's first post is town, and i kinda vibe with what green's said about him. also i liked some of green's takes as i said earlier.

hoopla i don't like my "case" or whatever and i'm yeeting her back into null.

duck... i know that i know nothing. i genuinely have no clue how to read you so i'mma just shelf this slot as ~neutral discussion participant~ until i get some sorta feeling somewhere

umlaut, so far my way of reading him has been "does he disremind me of the two scumgames of his that i modded" and the answer was yes and he was town and the answer right now is "no" and i'm aware that doesn't necessarily translate into him being scum but /shrug

marquis was at first null because Not Here but duck made an interesting remark so now it's null but also slightly to the right

username i kinda get the feeling that he's trying to avoid looking fake-busy (if that makes sense) but in turn i have almost no idea what his thoughts on the game are and his "pushes" so far just feel weirdly nitpicky and bad vibes all around.

gypyx started Not Good and now he's dissapeared and idk.

*also note hoopla should be slightly to the left now

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:05 am**

that's actually close to my reads, datisi

i've got duck a bit more to the left, gypyx is more to the right

i also have a pile of avatars to throw at the top lol

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:05 am**

In post 527, Hoopla wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: iconeum

how can you vote me after that pagetop

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:06 am**

In post 530, Grumpy Cat wrote:Here's something that can be explained. You unvoted Gypyx because you thought he looked more towny, but now you're back to calling him scum
without any Gypyx posts in the intermission
.

thanks for answering it for me

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:06 am**

don't worry I'm scum this game <3

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:07 am**

town*

oops haha

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:07 am**

ok i reread 459 and i feel like i get it now except for the "ah yes good excellet" posts which i still don't get but ok

In post 529, the worst wrote:I appreciate you lumping mine & datisi's solving efforts together because I've been a little bit more null on him than I'd like to be; in a ~rand game where he was town i would have him in the top right corner at this point regardless of my own alignment and it's kinda got me scratching my chin a little

do you wish to talk to me about this

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:08 am**

In post 282, Iconeum wrote:
In post 259, Hoopla wrote:i'm unsure what to make of the gypyx fake-hammer and fake-reaction fiasco.

when you have players acting in a disingenuous way in order to harvest reactions, you risk players responding in kind (which is what gypyx did).

so, now the question shifts from "was gypyx's reaction genuine?", to "was the decision to fake a reaction to a fake hammer town?", which is just too flimsy of a premise to really parse anything meaningful imo.

if pressed, my intuition leans town on gypyx because it's kind of overt and bombastic to respond to a fake hammer with an equally facetious reaction test.
UNVOTE:

while i agree that the reaction was townish, i'm not sure of it was actually a fake hammer

also this

i stand by my observation that I thought it's reaction to the hammer looked kinda townish, but it doesn't take into account that gypyx apparently said afterwards that it *knew* it was a fake hammer, which takes the entire argument out of the equation

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:09 am**

I'm not sure what to talk to you about to fix it tbqh it's very like, deep-intuition

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:10 am**

In post 535, Iconeum wrote:how can you vote me after that pagetop

i'm getting in on the groundfloor while your wagon is fresh.

now that we have grumpy cat on board too...

i sense this ticket will be too hot to pass up.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:11 am**

my ico townread doesn't feel warm and cozy and i'm worried

pedit: @duck yeah fair
fwiw i feel like i don't have a good ~grasp~ on the game as i usually do by this time
it happens sometimes
sometimes it gets fixed with time
sometimes i get mislynched with a lot of kicking and screaming
we'll see

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:11 am**

i challenged grumpy to a duel (of which the joke/reference seems to be lost to most here :s), not a threesome

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:12 am**

In post 543, Datisi wrote:my ico townread doesn't feel warm and cozy and i'm worried

pedit: @duck yeah fair
fwiw i feel like i don't have a good ~grasp~ on the game as i usually do by this time
it happens sometimes
sometimes it gets fixed with time
sometimes i get mislynched with a lot of kicking and screaming
we'll see

why aren't you picking gypyx apart for it's reaction to your post?

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:14 am**

In post 71, Gypyx wrote:I kinda like Hoopla throwing some number analysis for us, but at the same time i don't like her avoiding to take a stance on me, not sure how to read that

You (daitsi) have some pretty susp placement, but i'm waiting to see more

Smart's entrance is kinda weird ngl, but that's mainly my gut

VOTE: something smart

for what, this reaction?

like i already wrote i think it's bad. but like. gypyx isn't here right now. my vote there would be wasted. also i could get accused of being scum that's going after lhf or purposefully avoiding taking a stance on people around me. and that's bad.

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:16 am**

it's reads that had zero logic behind it, got called out by me, said 'oh right, uhhh, you know what just ignore those reads i changed my mind, here are new ones' and then disapeared entirely

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:18 am**

do you see me townreading gypyx anywhere????

like i know it's bad. but i also know the utility of me voting there or screaming at them right now is zero (0)

Posted: **Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:19 am**

if you agree with me on that case, then where is the doubt on me coming from?

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