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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:48 pm
by PenguinPower

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:53 pm
by lilith2013
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OTECOUNT
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LAYER
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AME
C
URRENT
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OTES
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TRENGTH
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PEED
K
NOWLEDGE
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LAYER
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Gamma Emerald
None
EL-7
3
2
4
Gamma Emerald
SirCakez
None
EL-7
2
3
3
SirCakez
CreativeMod1
None
EL-7
3
3
3
CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage
None
EL-7
3
3
3
Albert B. Rampage
Pine
SirCakez
EL-6
3
3
4
Pine
Bingle
PenguinPower, Fun and Games, Albert B. Rampage
EL-4
3
3
3
Bingle
Nosferatu
None
EL-7
3
3
1
Nosferatu
I Keep Siteflaking
None
EL-7
3
3
3
I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower
None
EL-7
3
3
3
PenguinPower
Fun and Games
None
EL-7
3
3
3
Fun and Games
Ydrasse
None
EL-7
3
3
3
Ydrasse
beeboy
Bingle
EL-6
3
3
3
beeboy
Not Voting
Gamma Emerald, CreativeMod1, Pine, Nosferatu, I Keep Siteflaking, Ydrasse, beeboy
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.
Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-11 20:28:04)
Notes:

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pagetops: Lilith 7 | penguin 8 | cm1 2 | ABR 1 | gamma 1 | gb 1 | fun & games 1

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:54 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
I confused George with Beeboy. Similar posting styles...

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:02 pm
by Albert B. Rampage
VOTE: Beeboy

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:23 pm
by CreativeMod1
In post 507, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 493, CreativeMod1 wrote:Also this is why I didn't go into the gym, felt it would've been a prime target for scum
Why did you assume that scum would have an ability to target an entire room?
Very good question, tbh I was thinking of the actual Betrayal game and thinking about how you gotta be in the same room as someone to attack them or do actions against them

Either way as it's been mentioned by other people, both labs got activated and we know a roleblock happened in the Gym, given that I did something else, there's a good chance I didn't do any of the doctor sided actions (unless you think I'm a 4th doctor here)

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:23 pm
by CreativeMod1
In post 507, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 493, CreativeMod1 wrote:Also this is why I didn't go into the gym, felt it would've been a prime target for scum
Why did you assume that scum would have an ability to target an entire room?
Very good question, tbh I was thinking of the actual Betrayal game and thinking about how you gotta be in the same room as someone to attack them or do actions against them

Either way as it's been mentioned by other people, both labs got activated and we know a roleblock happened in the Gym, given that I did something else, there's a good chance I didn't do any of the doctor sided actions (unless you think I'm a 4th doctor here)

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:32 pm
by CreativeMod1
VOTE: Bingle

I think I can get behind this tbh, I don't like how twice he's tried to clear me....kinda feels like he's trying to be all buddy buddy with me, today is a bit more understandable due to them using night actions as a reason to clear me, but I still don't understand what he said yesterday (as posted below) and he didn't answer me when I asked him about it, so Bingle...care to give an answer now?
In post 439, CreativeMod1 wrote:
In post 421, Bingle wrote:Yeah, rereading the ISO GB’s approach to the game just doesn’t feel town.

VOTE: GB

I would say that a scumflip here is moderately clearing for f&g amd cmod, if that happens and I die.
As much as I'd love to be put into a category of moderately cleared....I don't understand how a scum flip here would do this?
Idk, for me it just feels like he's found someone who he feels is very towny and is making them look good so that when Bingle flips scum, town then distrusts said townies

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 4:59 pm
by Nosferatu
In post 308, CreativeMod1 wrote:does the doctors operate ability count as an attack for this???
apparently not

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:31 pm
by Fun and Games
In post 527, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I confused George with Beeboy. Similar posting styles...
I'm still not sure that post made sense ...

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:34 pm
by I Keep Siteflaking
I don't think eliminating Bingle early is wise. He has a tendency of carrying town with mechanics. Regardless of his alignment.

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:07 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 530, CreativeMod1 wrote:
In post 507, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 493, CreativeMod1 wrote:Also this is why I didn't go into the gym, felt it would've been a prime target for scum
Why did you assume that scum would have an ability to target an entire room?
Very good question, tbh I was thinking of the actual Betrayal game and thinking about how you gotta be in the same room as someone to attack them or do actions against them

Either way as it's been mentioned by other people, both labs got activated and we know a roleblock happened in the Gym, given that I did something else, there's a good chance I didn't do any of the doctor sided actions (unless you think I'm a 4th doctor here)
I don’t distrust you yet, but I feel like scum may have ways around certain action limits, such that they may have been able to freely activate a lab

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 8:22 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Btw just to make things a little spicier:
I think one of the consensus scumreads is correct.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:59 am
by PenguinPower
In post 530, CreativeMod1 wrote:Either way as it's been mentioned by other people, both labs got activated and we know a roleblock happened in the Gym, given that I did something else, there's a good chance I didn't do any of the doctor sided actions (unless you think I'm a 4th doctor here)
I don't like this post.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:09 am
by I Keep Siteflaking
@mod
is it possible that there is a 3p here?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:51 am
by lilith2013
Please refer to the win conditions of the setup.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:38 am
by SirCakez
In post 522, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Alright this just got interesting. I'm not interested in beeboy, if he's scum why would he limit his vote to only a hammer, it makes no sense. And it would be too penalizing for a scum to have that handicap. Beeboy is town.

VOTE: Bingle
In post 527, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I confused George with Beeboy. Similar posting styles...
In post 528, Albert B. Rampage wrote:VOTE: Beeboy
So confused by this chain of posts

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:41 am
by SirCakez
My one reason I don't want to vote Bingle is I feel kinda biased against him because of his bad "setup confusion" push on me

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:56 am
by Bingle
In post 531, CreativeMod1 wrote:Idk, for me it just feels like he's found someone who he feels is very towny and is making them look good so that when Bingle flips scum, town then distrusts said townies
I'd like you to clarify what my goal here as scum supposedly is, because your position is bonkers.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:02 am
by Bingle
In post 537, PenguinPower wrote:I don't like this post.
It being a bad look doesn't make it not true.

The takeaway is the opposite angle, though.

There is a scum roomstopper (trademark pending) that probably isn't cmod via his publicly confirmable claim, so solving cmod's alignment is a comparitively lower priority.

I would like to get CMod's results from N0 though.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:10 am
by PenguinPower
In post 543, Bingle wrote:
In post 537, PenguinPower wrote:I don't like this post.
It being a bad look doesn't make it not true.

The takeaway is the opposite angle, though.

There is a scum roomstopper (trademark pending) that probably isn't cmod via his publicly confirmable claim, so solving cmod's alignment is a comparitively lower priority.

I would like to get CMod's results from N0 though.
Except that exploring is a separate action from personal abilities and both can be done at the same time.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:20 am
by Gamma Emerald
So I have an ability that let’s me “activate or destroy a lab without using a night action”. Now, why would my role say activate when I’m Town? My guess is scum has the same power on one of them. Since this action still requires a knowledge roll, I’m inclined to suspect anyone with elevated knowledge during N1, as they would have probably done so in order to be able to activate labs easier. The only person alive during N1 with increased knowledge was Pine. So I am going to
VOTE: Pine
And Pine was the consensus scumread I was talking about.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:35 am
by Bingle
In post 544, PenguinPower wrote:Except that exploring is a separate action from personal abilities and both can be done at the same time.
This is true. Cmod theoretically can prove one exploration. If cmod can prove the second exploration, they become unlikely to be the scum who activated labs. Cmod can heal a player. If this is true, they cannot be the scum who roomstopped.

None of this means cmod ISN’T scum, just that cmod is less likely to be scum than someone else, like you or me, who doesn’t have visible results.

As I said, I agree that it’s a bad look but it’s not a bad look to explore today. Which was what I said.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:37 am
by Bingle
In post 545, Gamma Emerald wrote:And Pine was the consensus scumread I was talking about.
Interesting. That’s +equity for small town. Also Pine is a scumread?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:48 am
by CreativeMod1
In post 542, Bingle wrote:
In post 531, CreativeMod1 wrote:Idk, for me it just feels like he's found someone who he feels is very towny and is making them look good so that when Bingle flips scum, town then distrusts said townies
I'd like you to clarify what my goal here as scum supposedly is, because your position is bonkers.
What I'm trying to say is IF Scum!Bingle hard defending Town!CM1 and then Bingle flips as being scum then there's a lot of sus now on CM1...but I will say is that yet again you haven't answered the question I asked you now twice, I don't understand what your logic was back then and I still don't
In post 546, Bingle wrote:
In post 544, PenguinPower wrote:Except that exploring is a separate action from personal abilities and both can be done at the same time.
This is true. Cmod theoretically can prove one exploration. If cmod can prove the second exploration, they become unlikely to be the scum who activated labs. Cmod can heal a player. If this is true, they cannot be the scum who roomstopped.

None of this means cmod ISN’T scum, just that cmod is less likely to be scum than someone else, like you or me, who doesn’t have visible results.

As I said, I agree that it’s a bad look but it’s not a bad look to explore today. Which was what I said.
This is a very good point, I can prove my career right now if you'd like and I highly doubt that scum get 2 different careers, so there's no way I can be both healer and roleblocker
Also, yes I can prove a second exploration, I won't say exactly how unless pushed but I can prove it

Finally I've just had a thought, when we get round to voting someone off, if said player is a town player then I highly suggest they send their items to whoever they think is the towniest player....if we leave it on the floor then there's a chance that scum will be able to pick it up (likewise if you have a daytime ability, use it before you die)

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:49 am
by lilith2013
boop