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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:30 pm
by fferyllt
Gamma just bugs me. it's hat to explain why.
This post, for instance.
In post 3224, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 3041, Alisae wrote:I actually think {Bell, Gamma, Peta} as a team makes a lot of sense and I feel like they all have very similar reads to each other
Why do I hard defend my theoretical buddies here rather than bus at least one, especially Bell who has been SRed out of the gate with no sign of a turnaround there
It reads as "your reason for scumreading me is a logical fallacy". There is no menu of things that scum always/never do. He repudiates the team, but it doesn't make him town.
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:43 pm
by Tammy
I had similar dislike for his thing about ds and the trying to sew doubts about conftown thing.
Town should be trying to make sense of the claims and doubting them seems fine. I'm trying to figure out why he thinks it's scummy of him to not go after cabd so strongly or think maybe it's town lying, etc. I just don't understand why he thinks it's so scummy there.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:10 am
by fferyllt
Jake, what's your Gamma read? Do you know him well as a mafia player?
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:52 am
by Tammy
What are your thoughts on midway bear? As I was skating this morning I realized I keep forgetting he exists. Not sure what to make of that.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:59 am
by fferyllt
Not townreading him. his town traitor joke set me off a little, and his lack of oomph on day 2 set me off a little more.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:11 am
by fferyllt
My current thoughts on how to cop N2.
I want to pick one of the 7 players not in masonries for our group-investigate.
We know what an investigation on town looks like. If we get the same result as investigating ourselves, then we have a semi-confirmed town. There's a possibility of a godfather in the mix but that seems like a complete nerf of the dethy when we've already got 2 millers in the mix.
If we get a different result than inno-inno-guilty (or whatever it is if we lose another dethy cop overnight). then we know we've hit scum. It doesn't matter which of us got the different result, just that it's different.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:28 am
by Tammy
I just got back from skating and have some work to do before a meeting, so I won’t reall be here yet, but I Waldo remembered this while skating
In post 364, Gamma Emerald wrote:
You are to first one to personally address me, despite my being fashionably late to the gathering. any reason you called me friend? I see no particular reason to trust anybody, and am inclined to distrust everybody.
In post 104, Alisae wrote:Alright I'm done tbh I only joined cuz I wanted to play with Syr again but I'm not sure if I should have considering I kinda wanna marathon the rest of the series but I joined the game so I'll play it.
Ima read up
Alisae seemss like quite the exuberant one. Are we sure e is of such age to be participating in a gala with such libations and leisure as we have?
In post 120, Alisae wrote: In post 119, fferyllt wrote:
You're scarier. And you're around! I feel like I'll know pretty quickly if Syr's town. He and I have some of the same weaknesses as scum, especially interacting with each other.
what are those weaknesses and what are the strengths
I will, however, put down that this is probably the best question I've heard so far.
In post 123, midwaybear wrote:Pooky did a roleplay act in micro 935 as Tracer Bullet. He was scum. I'm not saying that it translates to this game, but sometimes I think people townread people who do what pooky is doing. Hopefully he just stops doing it asap
I don't know for certain, but I would expect that is a mask he likes to wear when acting out the part of the detective. I'd thus suspect it means less for base motives and more for his current mentality.
btw I feel I should make this clear, I'm probably just gonna keep this method of writing for while I'm catching up. Tbh it's not as bad as I thought, though it seems activity is heavily weighted towards certain times. Might just be the fact FG games appeal to certain players.
This interaction between Jake and Wolfie pinged me which led me down the do they know each other or is Jake clumsily signaling traitor here? There was another personal address which had me wondering as well. But from gamma’s response to my question if they are friends, he said that they had talked some or something like that.
I don’t get the response to Jake here. If scum knew they had a traitor, this response could be shutting down what could have potentially been a traitor crumb?
I dunno.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:49 am
by fferyllt
If it had been a crumb, it would have been about a thousand times more elegant than tayl0r's.
You remind me how odd I thought it was that nobody followed up and tried to make me answer Alisae's question, especially since Gamma was one of the three who in-thread voiced suspicion of me.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:51 am
by Tammy
I need to actually read bulge's posts. It also occurred to me this morning that i never actually caught up on the posting before i came into thread yesterday
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:15 am
by Tammy
Oh cool we have three days.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:04 pm
by Tammy
my brain is total mush and I have another contract meeting tomorrow.
wondering how a nahdia, bulge, midwaybear solve feels
i do kinda want to go with peta's certainty on bulge
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:15 pm
by fferyllt
In post 535, Tammy wrote:my brain is total mush and I have another contract meeting tomorrow.
wondering how a nahdia, bulge, midwaybear solve feels
i do kinda want to go with peta's certainty on bulge
Want to throw that into the game thread? Or is ok for me to, crediting you?
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:17 pm
by Tammy
sure
I'm trying to make sense of the bulge/peta stuff atm
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:19 pm
by Tammy
that's probably a stupid thought solve
I don't know if I'm being overcome by the indignation of the ones I suspected before though
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:32 pm
by fferyllt
I went through tayl0rs iso looking for patterns that stood out as different, and subtracting the convos with conftown, her posts to Bell and Bulge stand out as basically empty. She had much more content-ful posts with midway, ds and peta.
And she didn't mention Nahdia at all.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:33 pm
by Tammy
what do you think that means for midway, ds and peta?
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:34 pm
by fferyllt
I think it means they're less likely scum, maybe? Though I scumread midway for his activity fall-off. I don't think Tayl0r would have called out his semi-contradictory stuff regarding a neighborhood.
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:38 pm
by Tammy
I did a skim of taylor's iso when you said you were reading it just so that I'd have an idea of what you were referencing when you talked about it. I didn't read it in depth, but I did notice a lot of early interaction with midwaybear
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:05 pm
by Tammy
Back to being hrm about it gamma
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:55 am
by Tammy
Wondering if petas major push on bulge is because he thinks he’s scum or a reaction to some people’s read on him dropping.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:18 am
by Tammy
Oh actually I like petas response to bulge so far.
Couple initial thoughts:
I liked bulges behavior around the claims yesterday a lot, but this is also a good scum approach to the claims.
I wasn’t totally a fan of wanting alll of us to go on record we were confirmed town, when syry filled questionable cop, and we went on record yesterday. I might be nitpicking on this but it felt too measured. (Also, my iPad just autocorrected I might to I,Ishtar and I’m not sure what to make of that. Perhaps it was an indication we should send the bull of heaven his way?)
I don’t like the wondering why gamma? Had him on the same tier as midway, which was unsorted, felt wrong. Wrong question to ask I think.
He keeps on focusing on asking if anyone has done anything scummier than doing nothing, and it sets my gut wrong every time
His poke at peta for defending himself in the form of a question felt like a semantic type of argument and felt wrong.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:21 am
by Tammy
Oh his post to game feels a little too aggressive? Mostlythiing the “what is this shit” to gamma’s treasure hunt.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:27 am
by Tammy
But some of his defense posts look fine?
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:29 am
by Tammy
2756?
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 7:43 am
by fferyllt
I'm still kinda meh on bulge, but that may be more me not knowing how to read him than anything he's doing.
I had this vague idea that he plays with his cards close to his chest, and I don't think that's happening here, possibly because of getting pushed so hard by peta?