In post 459, safebet222 wrote:
Salsabil - Although I think Salsabil could start using the Mafiascum wiki a bit more to learn some of the abbreviations and terminology (I still look at it all the time to decipher some of these people on this site),
Thank you for reminding me, I keep forgetting about the wiki
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:03 am
by Salsabil Faria
In post 474, Enchant wrote:English not my native language as well, so probably should explain this one.
Salsa asked, who i think mafia in Salsa+Zoomer, while i wondered where someone said like there's one for sure. This is answer, because i said "They probably not both mafia" and I DID NOT said "They probably not both mafia, but there's one mafia for sure".
I never said like i think there's 100% mafia in this pair, because i'm not sure in this.
In post 254, Spartan117 wrote:I feel like there is 1 scum between Flow trap Vs Sal.
I don't see it as Scum Vs Scum, and it just doesn't feel like Town Vs Town to me.
In post 254, Spartan117 wrote:I feel like there is 1 scum between Flow trap Vs Sal.
I don't see it as Scum Vs Scum, and it just doesn't feel like Town Vs Town to me.
I'm town for sure.
So are you trying to say you think Flow is scum, or do you disagree with what I have said here?
No, I'm not trying to say that
flow trap
is scum. I only know my alignment and it's town. So scum/scum is not possible. It can be either scum/town or town/town.
In post 486, Prism wrote:Going through your ISO Enchant it's not clear to me what your thoughts are on her. You've spent a lot of time responding to her interrogations regarding terminology/which ones you should know.
Where are you at on her?
Has anything changed since 395 where you didn't have any scumreads, just the initial ping on flow? I'm curious about Frederick/safebet.
I find her somewhat suspicious for trying changing meaning of what i say and picks on mind change, but i can't really notice difference from game where i played with her.
She not using purple color for text now.
If I tried to change the meaning of your words, then I didn't bother to ask about them first, just told my opinions normally. I'm asking you the questions only because of the language barrier, I find it hard to understand your words.
In post 254, Spartan117 wrote:I feel like there is 1 scum between Flow trap Vs Sal.
I don't see it as Scum Vs Scum, and it just doesn't feel like Town Vs Town to me.
I'm town for sure.
What was the point of this post?
Are you asking me?
Yes.
So, uh, was that it for the night or is there more on the way?
's post 444, it actually makes sense, like you tried to protect/defend your scum partner (in this case
Enchant
) there
Post= 494 here I asked your reads which is a serious question and game-related question which you avoided. But you interacted with me in those posts which were not game-related, from which I feel you're somewhat lurking at this point or want to be the second mysterious player here, not a town thing for me.
VOTE: Fredrick A Campbell
About
Prism
, their posts are less but really meaningful and can be counted almost all. Getting a good town vibe at the moment.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
I don't like how you are more concerned with voting with the pack and joining a train rather than following your scummiest scum read, that stinks of scum wanting to hide amongst town.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
Aren't you supposed to argue with that, not just agree to execute person, who you find as less likely a mafia?
Fredrick is still a scumlean, it matters not to me who I vote as long as they are below the null bracket
It bothers me on your disregard for who your voting, rather than having some more pinpoint accuracy on how scummy your read is, instead youre happier to vote off anyone who you may have a scum lean on rather than a more solid read on.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
I don't like how you are more concerned with voting with the pack and joining a train rather than following your scummiest scum read, that stinks of scum wanting to hide amongst town.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
Aren't you supposed to argue with that, not just agree to execute person, who you find as less likely a mafia?
Fredrick is still a scumlean, it matters not to me who I vote as long as they are below the null bracket
It bothers me on your disregard for who your voting, rather than having some more pinpoint accuracy on how scummy your read is, instead youre happier to vote off anyone who you may have a scum lean on rather than a more solid read on.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
I don't like how you are more concerned with voting with the pack and joining a train rather than following your scummiest scum read, that stinks of scum wanting to hide amongst town.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
Aren't you supposed to argue with that, not just agree to execute person, who you find as less likely a mafia?
Fredrick is still a scumlean, it matters not to me who I vote as long as they are below the null bracket
It bothers me on your disregard for who your voting, rather than having some more pinpoint accuracy on how scummy your read is, instead youre happier to vote off anyone who you may have a scum lean on rather than a more solid read on.
EZ seems much more interested in being town read than actually going after his stronger scum reads and pushing them further.
I'm pushing my scumread's, you can see this in the fact that I made a half a page long wall on my reads in general.
I don't see the problem with settling for a Fredrick wagon, when like, one other person, will follow me on the Enchant wagon.
Also I thought it was obvious but the last post is a joke lol.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:40 am
by esotericzoomer
You're disregarding any semblance of natural progression I had and rather you're cherrypicking my post's and warping them to fit your narrative.
Case and point, I make a joke, you read it as me wanting to be townread instead of me pushing my reads.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
I don't like how you are more concerned with voting with the pack and joining a train rather than following your scummiest scum read, that stinks of scum wanting to hide amongst town.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
Aren't you supposed to argue with that, not just agree to execute person, who you find as less likely a mafia?
Fredrick is still a scumlean, it matters not to me who I vote as long as they are below the null bracket
It bothers me on your disregard for who your voting, rather than having some more pinpoint accuracy on how scummy your read is, instead youre happier to vote off anyone who you may have a scum lean on rather than a more solid read on.
EZ seems much more interested in being town read than actually going after his stronger scum reads and pushing them further.
I'm pushing my scumread's, you can see this in the fact that I made a half a page long wall on my reads in general.
I don't see the problem with settling for a Fredrick wagon, when like, one other person, will follow me on the Enchant wagon.
Also I thought it was obvious but the last post is a joke lol.
Posting a wall of reads is not the same thing as pushing scum reads, how are you pushing for answers when you just share your opinion rather than questioning them and holding them to account?
I'm not warping anything, you chose to vote someone based off there being traction for other people to vote them, not from them being your main scum read, which is major sus.
As much as it may have been a joke it still expresses your desire to be receiving town cred for posting your reads, which is something scum would be much more desperate for than town.
In post 254, Spartan117 wrote:I feel like there is 1 scum between Flow trap Vs Sal.
I don't see it as Scum Vs Scum, and it just doesn't feel like Town Vs Town to me.
In post 254, Spartan117 wrote:I feel like there is 1 scum between Flow trap Vs Sal.
I don't see it as Scum Vs Scum, and it just doesn't feel like Town Vs Town to me.
I'm town for sure.
So are you trying to say you think Flow is scum, or do you disagree with what I have said here?
No, I'm not trying to say that
flow trap
is scum. I only know my alignment and it's town. So scum/scum is not possible. It can be either scum/town or town/town.
I'm pretty sure you just proved the opposite of what you were trying to prove
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:11 am
by Spartan117
In post 536, esotericzoomer wrote:You're disregarding any semblance of natural progression I had and rather you're cherrypicking my post's and warping them to fit your narrative.
Case and point,
I make a joke, you read it as me wanting to be townread instead of me pushing my reads.
How does saying
i would like to ask for towncred
in #446 push your reads?
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:14 am
by flow trap
In post 535, esotericzoomer wrote:I'm pushing my scumread's, you can see this in the fact that I made a half a page long wall on my reads in general.
I don't see the problem with settling for a Fredrick wagon, when like, one other person, will follow me on the Enchant wagon.
I agree it's better to go for a lesser SR and have them shot than to go for the strongest SR and have no one join you leaving a neutral or worse a TR shot
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
I don't like how you are more concerned with voting with the pack and joining a train rather than following your scummiest scum read, that stinks of scum wanting to hide amongst town.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
Aren't you supposed to argue with that, not just agree to execute person, who you find as less likely a mafia?
Fredrick is still a scumlean, it matters not to me who I vote as long as they are below the null bracket
It bothers me on your disregard for who your voting, rather than having some more pinpoint accuracy on how scummy your read is, instead youre happier to vote off anyone who you may have a scum lean on rather than a more solid read on.
EZ seems much more interested in being town read than actually going after his stronger scum reads and pushing them further.
I'm pushing my scumread's, you can see this in the fact that I made a half a page long wall on my reads in general.
I don't see the problem with settling for a Fredrick wagon, when like, one other person, will follow me on the Enchant wagon.
Also I thought it was obvious but the last post is a joke lol.
Posting a wall of reads is not the same thing as pushing scum reads, how are you pushing for answers when you just share your opinion rather than questioning them and holding them to account?
I'm not warping anything, you chose to vote someone based off there being traction for other people to vote them, not from them being your main scum read, which is major sus.
As much as it may have been a joke it still expresses your desire to be receiving town cred for posting your reads, which is something scum would be much more desperate for than town.
You’re reading so far into it, it’s astounding.
I’m voting a scumread, whether or not it’s my main one is completely meaningless.
And the ball is in their court to refute what I have already said, continuous pushing and questioning is a waste of time, you can even see me talking to Enchant about him not refuting any of my points.
Also the page after the joke that you want to push as a scumtell, I clarified it was a joke.
In post 536, esotericzoomer wrote:You're disregarding any semblance of natural progression I had and rather you're cherrypicking my post's and warping them to fit your narrative.
Case and point,
I make a joke, you read it as me wanting to be townread instead of me pushing my reads.
How does saying
i would like to ask for towncred
in #446 push your reads?
It doesn’t, it was a joke, and you cherrypicked it as well.
In post 536, esotericzoomer wrote:You're disregarding any semblance of natural progression I had and rather you're cherrypicking my post's and warping them to fit your narrative.
Case and point,
I make a joke, you read it as me wanting to be townread instead of me pushing my reads.
How does saying
i would like to ask for towncred
in #446 push your reads?
It doesn’t, it was a joke, and you cherrypicked it as well.
So you agree what you said in #536 was incorrect as you literally just stated that it is you pushing your townreads...
In post 254, Spartan117 wrote:I feel like there is 1 scum between Flow trap Vs Sal.
I don't see it as Scum Vs Scum, and it just doesn't feel like Town Vs Town to me.
In post 254, Spartan117 wrote:I feel like there is 1 scum between Flow trap Vs Sal.
I don't see it as Scum Vs Scum, and it just doesn't feel like Town Vs Town to me.
I'm town for sure.
So are you trying to say you think Flow is scum, or do you disagree with what I have said here?
No, I'm not trying to say that
flow trap
is scum. I only know my alignment and it's town. So scum/scum is not possible. It can be either scum/town or town/town.
In post 538, flow trap wrote:I'm pretty sure you just proved the opposite of what you were trying to prove
So you're confident about everything you think
I'm trying to do
, right? Then isn't it a good thing for you to push my wagon more? I think I'm giving you everything which you need to prove me as a scum Waiting for your long post though where you'll tell everyone why do you think I'm one of the scums, I mean at least when you'll decide it's the time for the
long and sweet
moment, not the
short and sweet
moment anymore. Also, why it is
always you
trying to get in at any conversation between
Fredrick A Campbell
and other players (earlier
Prism
, now me) except you?
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:34 am
by flow trap
In post 543, Spartan117 wrote:So you agree what you said in #536 was incorrect as you literally just stated that it is you pushing your townreads...
No, he said you did
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 6:39 am
by flow trap
In post 544, Salsabil Faria wrote:So you're confident about everything you think I'm trying to do, right? Then isn't it a good thing for you to push my wagon more? I think I'm giving you everything which you need to prove me as a scum Waiting for your long post though where you'll tell everyone why do you think I'm one of the scums, I mean at least when you'll decide it's the time for the long and sweet moment, not the short and sweet moment anymore. Also, why it is always you trying to get in at any conversation between Fredrick A Campbell and other players (earlier Prism, now me) except you?
1. Why would you try to disprove what you said
2. I don't feel like dealing with all the "why why whys" at the moment right now
3. I don't recall saying that
4. Tu quoque
5. Because they can't be here as much, and there's nothing wrong with a >2 person conversation
6. That only applies to Prism because I was accusing you of faulty logic; I would like to know the reason for the post now too
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
I don't like how you are more concerned with voting with the pack and joining a train rather than following your scummiest scum read, that stinks of scum wanting to hide amongst town.
Hey, i won mafiatest, and got -11, while he got -5.
Why you not pushing me, but instead change mind soo easy.
Because people are more content voting fredrick than they are you.
Aren't you supposed to argue with that, not just agree to execute person, who you find as less likely a mafia?
Fredrick is still a scumlean, it matters not to me who I vote as long as they are below the null bracket
It bothers me on your disregard for who your voting, rather than having some more pinpoint accuracy on how scummy your read is, instead youre happier to vote off anyone who you may have a scum lean on rather than a more solid read on.
EZ seems much more interested in being town read than actually going after his stronger scum reads and pushing them further.
I'm pushing my scumread's, you can see this in the fact that I made a half a page long wall on my reads in general.
I don't see the problem with settling for a Fredrick wagon, when like, one other person, will follow me on the Enchant wagon.
Also I thought it was obvious but the last post is a joke lol.
Posting a wall of reads is not the same thing as pushing scum reads, how are you pushing for answers when you just share your opinion rather than questioning them and holding them to account?
I'm not warping anything, you chose to vote someone based off there being traction for other people to vote them, not from them being your main scum read, which is major sus.
As much as it may have been a joke it still expresses your desire to be receiving town cred for posting your reads, which is something scum would be much more desperate for than town.
You’re reading so far into it, it’s astounding.
I’m voting a scumread, whether or not it’s my main one is completely meaningless.
And the ball is in their court to refute what I have already said, continuous pushing and questioning is a waste of time, you can even see me talking to Enchant about him not refuting any of my points.
Also the page after the joke that you want to push as a scumtell, I clarified it was a joke.
It's not meaningless, the meaningful part is why your jumping on it, we are not at a stage where we will be finishing this game day just yet so ensuring a day kill is one of your scum reads isnt clinical right now as no one is near it. Your basis around joining the wagon appears to centre based off other people being sus of them too, thats why I'm scum reading you, I don't see it as simple as just voting a scumtell, it looks very blatant to me why your voting him as its easy to seem town to just vote a less scum read when you can hide under the pushes of other players, especially against a player who has been around less and more likely not to push you back or give you much for the vote you placed. It's not the vote, its the why and how.
In post 536, esotericzoomer wrote:You're disregarding any semblance of natural progression I had and rather you're cherrypicking my post's and warping them to fit your narrative.
Case and point,
I make a joke, you read it as me wanting to be townread instead of me pushing my reads.
How does saying
i would like to ask for towncred
in #446 push your reads?
It doesn’t, it was a joke, and you cherrypicked it as well.
So you agree what you said in #536 was incorrect as you literally just stated that it is you pushing your townreads...
Waiting for your long post though where you'll tell everyone why do you think I'm one of the scums, I mean at least when you'll decide it's the time for the