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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:21 am
by Ydrasse
also i think that writing off pooky as not being scum bc he likes to 1v1 is silly because he can still potentially do that in the 6p

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:22 am
by Infinity 324
In post 523, Ydrasse wrote:yeah but we don’t see the progression at all you know? it’s hard to take “i’ve been thinking about it” at face value when it could be like yeah nothing there just moving to what’s convenient

(i’m a hypocrite though bc i do this too)
I get it, but you've seen me randomly change my mind as town no?

PEdit: ok that's fair

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:23 am
by NorwegianboyEE
I think you should consider the current slots in the 3P group.
If any of Skitter/Bingle was put into the group as town VS scum!Vanderscamp or scum!Ydrasse they would likely get destroyed. So that means it is the scum strategy we need to look at. And that is that ballsy scum is in 3P and a endgaming scum is in 6P. And Ydrasse/Vanderscamp are both slots i could see being set up as potentially endgaming scum.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:23 am
by No Face
In post 508, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 504, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 501, Infinity 324 wrote:No @norwee
Then y r u voting No Face.
In post 482, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 477, Ydrasse wrote:why no face other than poe?
He's a strong scum player, other than that I have nothing
Infinity does not know who No Face is so how would she know? :(

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:24 am
by Infinity 324
In post 488, Infinity 324 wrote:Tbh I can see it. Jingle in the hood talked about how his most recent 2 games were scumgames, and he could be having a weaker game. If I was a strong scum player having a weaker game I'd definitely put myself in the 3p hood, and scum!skitt would definitely not be having a weaker game here.
This is a realization I had in real time that I'm weighting more heavily than you think probably?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:25 am
by Ydrasse
In post 527, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think you should consider the current slots in the 3P group.
If any of Skitter/Bingle was put into the group as town VS scum!Vanderscamp or scum!Ydrasse they would likely get destroyed. So that means it is the scum strategy we need to look at. And that is that ballsy scum is in 3P and a endgaming scum is in 6P. And Ydrasse/Vanderscamp are both slots i could see being set up as potentially endgaming scum.
???

have you ever played with scum!me? what?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:26 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 530, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 527, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think you should consider the current slots in the 3P group.
If any of Skitter/Bingle was put into the group as town VS scum!Vanderscamp or scum!Ydrasse they would likely get destroyed. So that means it is the scum strategy we need to look at. And that is that ballsy scum is in 3P and a endgaming scum is in 6P. And Ydrasse/Vanderscamp are both slots i could see being set up as potentially endgaming scum.
???

have you ever played with scum!me? what?
I think you're town independently Ydrasse, but i'm just saying that Infinity's reasoning for ruling you and Vanderscamp out as scum based on being in the 6P group is flawed.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:26 am
by Infinity 324
In post 527, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think you should consider the current slots in the 3P group.
If any of Skitter/Bingle was put into the group as town VS scum!Vanderscamp or scum!Ydrasse they would likely get destroyed.
The thing is, it's way less risky for scum if that happens. If necessary, scum can put 1 or 2 limbaity players in the 3p group so that vander/ydrasse doesn't get destroyed

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:27 am
by NorwegianboyEE
VOTE: Vanderscamp

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:29 am
by Ydrasse
i’m asking more why you think i would be the end gaming one

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:29 am
by Infinity 324
Honestly skitt being in the 3p group is surprising regardless of her alignment

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:29 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 532, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 527, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I think you should consider the current slots in the 3P group.
If any of Skitter/Bingle was put into the group as town VS scum!Vanderscamp or scum!Ydrasse they would likely get destroyed.
The thing is, it's way less risky for scum if that happens. If necessary, scum can put 1 or 2 limbaity players in the 3p group so that vander/ydrasse doesn't get destroyed
Yes, which is precisely why Vander/Ydrasse would only be scum in 3P group if the 3P group had much more limbaity players rather than the consesus "strong" players.
But Ydrasse/Vanderscamp could still theoretically have rolled scum in a world with the current 3p hood. So ruling them out as scum because of being in the 6p group is faulty.
Again, i don't scumread Ydrasse. But i do find Vanderscamp sus.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:30 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 534, Ydrasse wrote:i’m asking more why you think i would be the end gaming one
You strike me as a player that would be really good at going undercover as scum and pocketing town.
Am i wrong?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:31 am
by Infinity 324
In post 536, NorwegianboyEE wrote:But Ydrasse/Vanderscamp could still theoretically have rolled scum in a world with the current 3p hood.
I think it's unlikely is what I'm saying. The hood distribution depends on what the scumteam is obviously, so certain hood distributions will make certain players more or less likely to be scum

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 am
by No Face
Infinity is ignoring me :/

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:34 am
by Infinity 324
I'm wondering why scum!jingle put skitter in the 3p hood and then argued for a plan specifically involving wanting to keep skitt alive? He obviously was aware that skitt can be a threat, so it seems odd

In the future if someone doesn't like a PoE vote that I make, questioning my TRs is much more useful than questioning the vote itself

PEdit: ok but you're hectic

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:35 am
by NorwegianboyEE
My theory is that the hood distribution proves we have a ballsy player that wants to take on the big league and prove themselves in the small hood, and a more clever deepwolf that will be trying to sound town, harmless, and pocket town in the bigger hood.
Small hood is for the powerful bruiser, big hood for the long-living wolf.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:38 am
by Infinity 324
In post 541, NorwegianboyEE wrote:My theory is that the hood distribution proves we have a ballsy player that wants to take on the big league and prove themselves in the small hood, and a more clever deepwolf that will be trying to sound town, harmless, and pocket town in the bigger hood.
Small hood is for the powerful bruiser, big hood for the long-living wolf.
I'm not really sure people's scum playstyles divide like this, but I think hectic is actually the most likely to be scum if this was the strategy

Pooky and mena tend to play more aggressively as scum, and ydrasse and vander probably can't really deepwolf

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:44 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 542, Infinity 324 wrote:I'm not really sure people's scum playstyles divide like this
All mafia game solves should be cinematically pleasing and make for a ending of a good detective show episode where the detective explains the scum teams strategy and perfectly exposes them though.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:46 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Long story short is that i more or less townread other slots in the 6p group and i think Vanderscamp's not really towntold yet and could therefore be scum just faking mediocre content.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:52 am
by Bingle
In post 513, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Because Bingle wants to tryhard?
Idk him very well, but i think he likes a challenge.
Tinfoil says this could be a scum slip.

Norwee, what gives you that impression?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:53 am
by NorwegianboyEE
The little i do know of your character from games long since past.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:54 am
by Bingle
Oh, and also VOTE: pooky

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:55 am
by Infinity 324
In post 479, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 421, Infinity 324 wrote:I was thinking that the 6p hood could vote on someone for the 3p hood to pledge our votes to. If the chosen player is scum, they weren't getting limmed anyway, so it should increase our chances to hit scum. I think I'd rather that than try to read into scum!skitt/scum!jingle associatives. If people want to exclude me from that that's actually ideal for me, scum!me isn't great at coming up with reasons not to vote my partners.
Making sure this doesn't get missed
I guess I didn't make sure enough?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:03 am
by Bingle
Norwee, do you meta dive peeps? Not in this game, just as a general rule.