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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:32 am
by GrandpaMo
In post 523, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 522, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 519, JamesTheNames wrote:@Zyla @VPF @Val89 @NorweiganBoy @Cook @T3 @Astro @The person I accidentally forgot:
Thoughts on the nonsense of GrandpaMo unvoting me only to revote after asked about it?
? what i literally asked you.

and you still havent fucking addressed my other points??????
There's no need for getting angry or anything over this game. If I'm scum you have days to convince people. If you're scum just trying to get me hammered you have days to do it. I'm trying to enjoy this game just as much as you are.
What does this have to do with anything??

I am literally exposing you right now because you haven't answered jackshit LOL

you are so scum.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:32 am
by GrandpaMo
this is the real flailing scum

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:34 am
by Zyla
In post 517, GrandpaMo wrote:honestly just forget this ... i dont want my frustration to get in my reads against you...
Hey, you brought this up
Grandpa wrote: can you quote that?
Quote the fact that I was asked to make a read-post on you? I pointed you to that in my original response to this post in
Grandpa wrote:lol u are just making me look bad. go read the quote back again. i mentioned me and james. -- and how WE were easy vote for scum if we were both town.
I'm not sure I see your point


Also, can you try and avoid doing the colored text in replies? It makes it harder to keep track of who's saying what, or
when
you're saying things, especially in long back and forths

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:35 am
by Zyla
In post 526, GrandpaMo wrote:this is the real flailing scum
If 'this' is you, I can't help but agree

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:37 am
by GrandpaMo
In post 528, Zyla wrote:
In post 526, GrandpaMo wrote:this is the real flailing scum
If 'this' is you, I can't help but agree
what?

how am i even flailing if i have literally backed james in a corner and all they can do is literally just use guily trip maniuplation on me from the rest of the town LOL
like pls


that is so scum.

they have still yet to answer my questions

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:41 am
by GrandpaMo
In post 527, Zyla wrote:
In post 517, GrandpaMo wrote:honestly just forget this ... i dont want my frustration to get in my reads against you...
Hey, you brought this up
Grandpa wrote: can you quote that?
Quote the fact that I was asked to make a read-post on you? I pointed you to that in my original response to this post in
Grandpa wrote:lol u are just making me look bad. go read the quote back again. i mentioned me and james. -- and how WE were easy vote for scum if we were both town.
I'm not sure I see your point


Also, can you try and avoid doing the colored text in replies? It makes it harder to keep track of who's saying what, or
when
you're saying things, especially in long back and forths
1. yea idk .. i just.. man this game just frustrated me.

and i want to feel like your like your the misguided town unfort and james is the scum. one of u is misguided. but im certainly sure james is scum

2. okay thanks

3. what are you talking bout. just pls read -- its not that hard. look at my original quote that i had talked bout an easy vote. you have said that it was only talking bout me. which is plain wrong. i was talking bout me and JAMES. and how you didnt mention james but only me. and u responded wit it just being like i only said me. im the one who brought that point out. and now u are confused? whats there to be not to get. pls just read the original quote.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:28 am
by Cook
In post 526, GrandpaMo wrote:this is the real flailing scum
imagine if this post was referring to yourself

and realize how accurate that feels as well

VOTE: GrandpaMo

In my current solvestate, James or Mo goes today.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:30 am
by Val89
In post 477, JamesTheNames wrote:They have an issue with me being stingy during RVS voting for Val, me moving my vote onto GrandpaMo, me saying I have different reasons for voting than Zyla, and my "inactivity", I don't get the issue, I can't address things more than they are address-able.
To clear to you James (and the rest of players), the problem isn't so much you being stingy during RVS voting for Val (and the non-rvs stage following), it was being stingy whilst simultaneously saying stuff
like
this
.

You were also weirdly defensive at the start, even when you weren't really under any pressure. I said I like your D1 solve attempt, and somehow you took that as me throwing shade at your slot, and then continued to insist I must have been disingenuous even after I pointed out I was serious. I think I've demonstrated over the course of the game that it was my true belief - that I think it is better for town to have as much on the table as possible.

I'll get around to Zylas question in a moment once I've had a few moments to try and decode Grandpa's recent posts. I've had a nap, and woke up with a slightly different take on what happened, but I'll explain what I was thinking at the time and why.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:31 am
by Cook
In post 526, GrandpaMo wrote:this is the real flailing scum
Oh and also:

Image

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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:32 am
by Cook
hmm, yes, "flailing scum"

who has half of your post count

and is THIRD in posting amount

yes, clearly, flailing

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:37 am
by Val89
Cook, I'm assuming this is coming from a place of trying to helpful rather than mislead, but if you had been around a little earlier, that table would look VERY different.

I'm not all that familiar with the forum software, but is it possible to generate from as-of, say, six hours ago?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:45 am
by alstroemerial
after skimming just wondering how the atmosphere degraded even
more
in the last two or so hours...? I'm not even going to try to do this post-by-post, just gonna do a wall under a spoiler, brb

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:52 am
by Cook
In post 535, Val89 wrote:Cook, I'm assuming this is coming from a place of trying to helpful rather than mislead, but if you had been around a little earlier, that table would look VERY different.

I'm not all that familiar with the forum software, but is it possible to generate from as-of, say, six hours ago?
nope, sadly

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:56 am
by GrandpaMo
In post 531, Cook wrote:
In post 526, GrandpaMo wrote:this is the real flailing scum
imagine if this post was referring to yourself

and realize how accurate that feels as well

VOTE: GrandpaMo

In my current solvestate, James or Mo goes today.
vote james then

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:02 pm
by Cook
no :P

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:31 pm
by alstroemerial
Two small reactions/thoughts
Spoiler:
In post 450, Zyla wrote:I'm gonna laugh if my half-joke, half-OMGUS hero-solve was correct, but the two of you are
really
making it look good right now
But if VFP’s only SR was Grandpa, that’s a decent bus, then again Grandpa is really playing maybe like he’s trying to get offed and maybe give VFP some towncred
In post 488, GrandpaMo wrote:u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?

t3 the person who i scumread?

do you think i would bus as scum here?
WIFOM / generally protecting T3 potentially…?

I don’t like how in the 100s (I forget the exact post number) Mo outlined a scenario where I could be scum (backing off a bit once T3 pushed a bit), and since then has been pushing me as town or general oddness the more that people have TR me… (see below)
Spoiler:
In post 292, GrandpaMo wrote: Alstro do you townread me? Because me and the scumcase on Zyla from NEE allign so I am assuming they townread me. And my townread on NEE alligns with the same proposed logic on how NEE is town because they were on Zyla instead of the ongoing wagon.
In post 309, GrandpaMo wrote:i feel like those are kinda wack reasons to townread me -- the arguement that my logic pairs up with yours makes more sense mechanically to townread me and has a better stance for that.
In post 444, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 440, alstroemerial wrote:snip my quote
this is so fucking town. i just rread this. u have the exact same paranoia of vfp going to e-1 for no reason literally reason.
In post 507, GrandpaMo wrote:honestly i just feel like im being fearkilled.

its okay tho alstro's the only one who actually can read the fucking game lol

and understand all of my response / quotes
In post 519, JamesTheNames wrote:@Zyla @VPF @Val89 @NorweiganBoy @Cook @T3 @Astro @The person I accidentally forgot:
Thoughts on the nonsense of GrandpaMo unvoting me only to revote after asked about it?
Honestly? Based on the style and overwhelming frequency of posts, including double/triple/etc posting, it looks like GrandpaMo is sometime just going stream-of-consciousness style. So whereas there was a period of time, for example, where I was going back and forth on you, I kept my vote on you until I was pretty sure I wanted to vote someone else instead of unvoting and revoting every time – on the other hand, I think GrandpaMo was just going with his immediate thought process. I went and found a few Mo games just to see and it seems he is just like that in general so I don’t think it’s immediately alignment indicative.
In post 525, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 523, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 522, GrandpaMo wrote: ? what i literally asked you.

and you still havent fucking addressed my other points??????
There's no need for getting angry or anything over this game. If I'm scum you have days to convince people. If you're scum just trying to get me hammered you have days to do it. I'm trying to enjoy this game just as much as you are.
What does this have to do with anything??

I am literally exposing you right now because you haven't answered jackshit LOL

you are so scum.
It has to do with the fact that we are literally trying to play a
game
on the
internet
and you’re constantly cursing at people, using a condescending tone, and generally speaking being a bit of an asshole. That has nothing to do with alignment, per se, but the fact that it’s putting an unreasonable damper in light of the fact that we’re all spending our free time playing this together…

I also don’t like how Mo keeps claiming he has James cornered when he objectively does not?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:32 pm
by Zyla
The entire history of the universe has led to this moment... How many posts have I made in Newbie 2068!

Pedit: what do you mean it's 43 now??

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:33 pm
by alstroemerial
wait how does NEE already have more posts than me...
but maybe I still exceed if you count words instead :P

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:36 pm
by alstroemerial
Anyway, I was kind of writing that post to see if I could talk myself into a GrandpaMo case but I just can't do it with full confidence, though if it ultimately comes down to Grandpa vs James as it seems to be doing, I'd probably go with Grandpa... I would rather we spend the next (real-life) day or two pressuring a Cook or a VFP (one of Mo's "Laid backs" I think it was called), but it looks like the momentum isn't there at all

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:46 pm
by GrandpaMo
In post 543, alstroemerial wrote:Anyway, I was kind of writing that post to see if I could talk myself into a GrandpaMo case but I just can't do it with full confidence, though if it ultimately comes down to Grandpa vs James as it seems to be doing, I'd probably go with Grandpa... I would rather we spend the next (real-life) day or two pressuring a Cook or a VFP (one of Mo's "Laid backs" I think it was called), but it looks like the momentum isn't there at all
what? so u scumread me now?

didnt u like scumread james?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:46 pm
by GrandpaMo
this game is so weird xD

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:46 pm
by GrandpaMo
nd im so confused atp just vote whoever atp

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:46 pm
by Zyla
I mean, I think a VFP elim would work and make sense, I don't like the fact that they were at E-1 and decided to join in with complete nonsense rather than anything worthwhile.
But it would also be nice to see some more from Cook and T3...

T3
: You don't find VFP scummy. So why were you willing to put them at E1 this early in the day? (or even E2, since you apparently weren't keeping track)

Cook
: You went directly from town-reading VFP to saying you were ok with a wagon and voting on them. What changed?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:56 pm
by alstroemerial
alas, things change

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:05 pm
by GrandpaMo
In post 548, alstroemerial wrote:alas, things change
you literally agree wit me on every point with logic not even surrounding james. and even wit james you do agree wit me. but somehwo im still more scummier than james.

you might be scum then