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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:35 pm
by humaneatingmonkey
The townier players dont have to accept, but having multiple options to leave but not taking them points towards town.

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:13 pm
by Dannflor
sorry for absence, I keep reading and just feel like I have nothing to worthwhile to add, maybe because I'm a somewhat consensus scum read

I do vibe with catboi's inability to get any strong scum reads. I'm sort of failing to get strong town reads as well though. I feel like i've come close and then something comes along to undermine them immediately everytime, which is a bit demotivating

I will be back tomorrow for a full reread

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:18 pm
by Something_Smart
See, I like this setup, because I never have strong scumreads, and I don't have to be annoyed about that this time :P

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:20 pm
by Dannflor
it's just awkward because I don't even know who I would trust at this point

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:06 pm
by MURDERCAT
Can you give a readslist

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:12 am
by humaneatingmonkey
uwu

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:24 am
by humaneatingmonkey
i see catboi hasn't popped the question yet

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:25 am
by humaneatingmonkey
catboi is there any reason to doubt prism's alignment?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:35 am
by inutile
In post 532, humaneatingmonkey wrote:is there any reason to doubt prism's alignment?
do you think scum!prism would be more or less likely to express that they were upset with a town/town pairing after witnessing menalque’s reaction to a scum flip in the tarot game?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:37 am
by humaneatingmonkey
sorry inutile i'm too high to understand that question. first i have no idea what happened in the tarot game. second i don't remember prism expressing that they were upset with a town/town pairing. maybe i'm not remembering a lot of these contexts?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:41 am
by MURDERCAT
Inutile can you give a readslist as well

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:45 am
by inutile
In post 132, Prism wrote:I am annoyed by that trust regardless of what that flips. I will mald if I explain why and there's no point at this juncture. I am unhappy whoever is town trusted but I am glad they left.
and tarot game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=87040

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:48 am
by inutile
basically, marcistar flipped mafia, menalque expressed that he was very upset with the manner in which it happened despite result, (menalque was mafia)

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:53 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 533, inutile wrote:do you think scum!prism would be more or less likely to express that they were upset with a town/town pairing after witnessing menalque’s reaction to a scum flip in the tarot game?
inutile i can answer you now.

i think prism is more likely to express any criticism period. she hounds other people about their play all the time. that's what's fun about her.

i now ask you: are you more likely to become more convoluted in your reads when you are scum?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:57 am
by inutile
In post 535, MURDERCAT wrote:Inutile can you give a readslist as well
uh yeah i guess

probably something like

prism
monkey
catboi, dannflor, murdercat, something smart
infinity

if i had to

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 4:59 am
by inutile
In post 538, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
In post 533, inutile wrote:do you think scum!prism would be more or less likely to express that they were upset with a town/town pairing after witnessing menalque’s reaction to a scum flip in the tarot game?
i now ask you: are you more likely to become more convoluted in your reads when you are scum?
more convoluted than i am as town? that doesn’t seem possible, unless you just mean messier in which case, probably?

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:01 am
by inutile
In post 539, inutile wrote:
In post 535, MURDERCAT wrote:Inutile can you give a readslist as well
uh yeah i guess

probably something like

prism
monkey
catboi, dannflor, murdercat, something smart
infinity

if i had to
but i am basically just looking for one town, so

like i was trying to see if infinity on similar path but ehh

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:04 am
by humaneatingmonkey
i think that if you're comparing the prism's reactions in the game and to the reactions she had when she was a spectator with the purpose of getting any sort of read on her (and i assume, a town read) is a bit more convoluted than this sentence.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:08 am
by inutile
In post 542, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i think that if you're comparing the prism's reactions in the game and to the reactions she had when she was a spectator with the purpose of getting any sort of read on her (and i assume, a town read) is a bit more convoluted than this sentence.
? i just don’t think scum!prism would be looking to mimic menalques pitfall

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:09 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 541, inutile wrote:like i was trying to see if infinity on similar path but ehh
That makes more sense now

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:12 am
by humaneatingmonkey
In post 543, inutile wrote:? i just don’t think scum!prism would be looking to mimic menalques pitfall
why not? sorry i have dropped 20 points in IQ this past hour

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:14 am
by Infinity 324
Murder's solviness dropped off so I townread him less now but I still think he's much more likely to be town.

s_s has been quite towny when he's posted but he hasn't posted quite enough for me to strong TR him.

Catboi and dann are probably scum.

Everyone else I'd be really happy if paired.

Shiki's prism read here is super towny for her I think. It's not trying to look towny but it's difficult to think of that unless you're really trying to sort someone's alignment.

Prism I thought about why they would place so much importance on their read on me here and I didn't come up with anything. They're not appealing to murdercat to keep me out of the pairings, so I don't see a scum agenda there that makes sense.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:15 am
by Infinity 324
Monkey also somehow got townier since I last talked about that read

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:21 am
by MURDERCAT
Hard to solve without info

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:24 am
by Something_Smart
In post 546, Infinity 324 wrote:Murder's solviness dropped off so I townread him less now but I still think he's much more likely to be town.
Is this an absolute decrease (failing to solve is scummy) or a relative one (everyone else has gotten townier, and he hasn't)?