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I guess 523 is something.

I figured out what you meant wrt Dwlee and I think you’re reaching
As for how I enter games as scum I’ve since grown past thinking I need to be the one carrying the team, plus I thought the flavor and plist was interesting so I was eager to get out and play

you're kinda gonna have to give more than that to justify town-gamma

pedit @dwlee
pedit there are more pedits

In post 522, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 519, skitter30 wrote:that was for dwlee ^

and infinity, ig i'm used to town-you strongly pushing back when i call u scum (esp. if you think i ought to be townreading you), but here you're just kinda accepting the read and not really having any sort of reaction

the other thing is that i don't think i've been super towny this game. i don't think i'm trying to look town but that's a hard thing to identify in other players

you feel kinda scummy to me tbh :(

In post 528, skitter30 wrote:

In post 522, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 519, skitter30 wrote:that was for dwlee ^

and infinity, ig i'm used to town-you strongly pushing back when i call u scum (esp. if you think i ought to be townreading you), but here you're just kinda accepting the read and not really having any sort of reaction

the other thing is that i don't think i've been super towny this game. i don't think i'm trying to look town but that's a hard thing to identify in other players

you feel kinda scummy to me tbh :(

ok i hope you change your mind /shrug

infinity r u ok?

In post 530, skitter30 wrote:infinity r u ok?

i'm doing pretty well yeah

ah ok good to hear!

you feel really, really off and weird in this game tho

VOTE: prism
The more I look at and think about his play the more I feel like it’s not in good faith

... how?

In post 532, skitter30 wrote:ah ok good to hear!

you feel really, really off and weird in this game tho

i haven't played mafia in a few weeks

a lot has changed in my life since i last played with you

i'm not sure what it is but there are a lot of reasons why that could be the case

Miraculous given that every single game I've played as scum against him I've townread him, let him get eliminated for free, and had him never learn from it.

I guess I got tired of pulling the same tactic.

VOTE: gamma ok i trust prism's read rate + gamma being this incomprehensible is pretty scummy

prism are you still upset at me

No.

In post 536, Prism wrote:Miraculous given that every single game I've played as scum against him I've townread him, let him get eliminated for free, and had him never learn from it.

I guess I got tired of pulling the same tactic.

And yet you lorded that over me last game; there’s a reasonable chance you got self-conscious of your own meta around me and decided to try something new.
In addition, you mention my “hitting tonal bases” thing was an issue from my first 6 posts, but I believe your little potshot at me came after those. Where’s the thought process that maybe I was deliberately tilting you as scum?

You literally do not take feedback. Trying to get you to critically evaluate my slot has been a project for 4+ years now.

For your townplay I have highlighted the tactics I used against you as scum again and again and had you fail to punish them.

For your scumplay I highlighted it for you that you had a terrible habit of putting all of your scumteam in your scumreads and you proceeded to keep doing it in your next several games, which I'd have to find later as I don't want to comb through them right now.

In post 486, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 437, petapan wrote:do you still not feel like answering my questions about your read on me now that you're actually voting me

The biggest thing I could recall from you then was you reacting to stuff like me voting you and being like “but you won last” time, that felt kinda self-conscious
As for the Pooky vote that was kinda a meme vote but I think it actually helped me in a way

dunno man i was just messing around joking about stuff, kind of a normal thing for early game

th pooky vote didn't like a joke at the time

and i'm not sure why you'd react so negatively to people questioning your vote if it was supposed to be a "meme vote"

In post 541, Prism wrote:You literally do not take feedback. Trying to get you to critically evaluate my slot has been a project for 4+ years now.

For your townplay I have highlighted the tactics I used against you as scum again and again and had you fail to punish them.

For your scumplay I highlighted it for you that you had a terrible habit of putting all of your scumteam in your scumreads and you proceeded to keep doing it in your next several games, which I'd have to find later as I don't want to comb through them right now.

hwell in that case he must be town

In post 540, Gamma Emerald wrote:Where’s the thought process that maybe I was deliberately tilting you as scum?

This would be an immense improvement and I hope that would be the intent. My money is not on it.

In post 540, Gamma Emerald wrote:In addition, you mention my “hitting tonal bases” thing was an issue from my first 6 posts, but I believe your little potshot at me came after those.

You can clearly see in my ISO when I calmed down and started revisiting the game more rationally. 196 I start by responding to ulyana's question for me about other players. I follow this up by revisiting the mechanics and asking Morning an important question we had overlooked.

Again a bit later I decide to really chew on people's reactions to me. The first was Cephir. You were next. I immediately pointed out my problems with skimming your ISO, had a dialogue with peta on one post, and investigated it further.

My 143 towards Infinity was very insincere and malicious. I never once thought it was intentional from them regardless of alignment, as I don't think Infinity believes in using that as a scum tactic.

In post 541, Prism wrote:You literally do not take feedback. Trying to get you to critically evaluate my slot has been a project for 4+ years now.

For your townplay I have highlighted the tactics I used against you as scum again and again and had you fail to punish them.

For your scumplay I highlighted it for you that you had a terrible habit of putting all of your scumteam in your scumreads and you proceeded to keep doing it in your next several games, which I'd have to find later as I don't want to comb through them right now.

Actually, pretty sure your little concept of “gamma stick his buddies in his lowest tier” has been defied numerous times. And you wanna know what happened when I avoiding bussing like the plague? . Go look at Open 805 Panic Room for proof. I was absurdly averse to bussing because I wanted to win as a team with people I was excited to roll scum with. That led me digging in my heels on an ill-formed murdercat defense and tanking the team. Basically any time I stick my neck out for a buddy whose life is on the line it feels like I’m just setting myself up to go alongside them. So maybe you get why I near-compulsively bus sometimes?

As for my town play, I’ve tried to play around my weaknesses. I know I have a habit of getting pockited so I’ve adopted the Cabd Clause, made a thing in the Wall Street Bets game. I’ve tried to lean more into gut after having games where it felt like hard logic was leading me astray more often than it helped.
I really feel like if you want to actually help me improve, you need to check your tone. Because I feel like you come off as bitter and/or condescending every time you seemingly try to help.

It was probably the right play to do every game for the entire year of 2020. I hope it has been defied since, but it was not my comment that made you do so.

Right now I'm not trying to help you. Right now I'm playing a game against you, I think you're scum spouting garbage and I want you flipped.