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In post 495, Datisi wrote:

In post 394, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 342, Datisi wrote:it can also catch a... *gasp* town ascetic so i'm not sure why you're suddenly so into the idea that there must be a scum ascetic

This kind of makes no sense. Town ascetic claims immediately if they know what they are doing.

yeah

and the mailman can.... confirm them. WOW.

Not really. You can confirm someone as "Not Ascetic" not other way around.

In post 522, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 521, Prism wrote:I feel like I am going to have to meta all of Baltar, Cephir, and fireisredsir to have any idea how to read them and I straight up do not want to do that

Do you typically meta all the players you are less familiar with in games? That seems like a lot of work for marginal returns

I don't like to do it unless I have a specific behavior in mind. Here it'd be your aggression.

For Cephir/fireisredsir I legitimately look at their posts and have no clue and would be looking for any general idea.

In post 526, Prism wrote:I don't like to do it unless I have a specific behavior in mind. Here it'd be your aggression.

Have at it I guess. I'll tell you right now I don't always play aggressive as either alignment, though it should be easy enough to find times I go hard in a game. Just finished a town game with dats/skitter/fire etc where I was going hard as town when town were being dumb and helping scum wagon me for bad reasons. I've explained already my thinking for this game and why I came hard here as an opener.

I also was just in a good mood yesterday and was having fun wiling!

Imo i am from fresh game where mafia had mailman for no purpose whatsover.

Idk why mailman would be gated and neither i care.

I feel like there's no way skitter reads 521 and doesn't get at least a little bit tilted and it makes me want to burn the tiger

I still won't do it until I actually feel like playing mafia again

but the temptation is strong

I'm not sure why you think i get tilted there
I mean i dont like it
But i dont get auto-tilted cuz people want to flip me

Skimming through Forest Fire you weren't as upset as I remember, but still a lil tilted

either way I'm glad you're not so shrug

sorry 4 suck atm regardless of what u r

In post 1266, skitter30 wrote:

In post 1227, Prism wrote:I feel like a feral cat was locked in my throat overnight, I drove 3 hours back home in 102F with no air conditioning, and this is what I came back to.

To say I am about to blow a gasket is an understatement and I will be back tomorrow.

oh no i hope you feel better soon

In post 42, Prism wrote:

In post 40, skitter30 wrote:Well the airport isnt ac'd and its stupidly hot here, so yes

I want you to know you deserve it for daring to go outside

a tale of two reactions to misfortune

Indeed

Also btw i think fire is on ur list of people u cant read, i'm p sure they're town

In post 534, skitter30 wrote:Also btw i think fire is on ur list of people u cant read, i'm p sure they're town

why

I'm not really known for giving up. When I get back from shoveling Mountain Dew and Doritos maybe I'll try again.

Also happy to hear the towncase.

In post 535, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 534, skitter30 wrote:Also btw i think fire is on ur list of people u cant read, i'm p sure they're town

why

I'm also curious why you're towmreading fire. I haven't seen a lot AI from him yet. He is kind of slow off the blocks is my sense.

there isn't a lot of AI stuff but he feels comfortable [I know I shouldn't toneread people but I can't help it]

In post 337, fireisredsir wrote:that reminds me, i think dwlee was talking about a datisi/vp team?

surely in that case datisi is excited and stays up past his bedtime to knock out some theatre in the early thread first

same goes for datisi/ari probably

this is probly the most townie thought in his iso imo

In post 62, fireisredsir wrote:nvm skitter used the word ping she is conftown

and this is just cute

In post 538, Aristeia wrote:there isn't a lot of AI stuff but he feels comfortable [I know I shouldn't toneread people but I can't help it]

Yeah, I agree with that.

VP why do you think Skitter is Mafia again?

Wrt fire:
- i like their tone, its more chill than i imagine it would be as scum
- i like that they're pushing vp for similar reasons as me
- their posts are lowkey very perceptive and making good observations
- i like their dwlee push
- generally from their posts you can tell they're thinking about the game and what others are posting and what those posts imply about others' alignment

In post 542, Aristeia wrote:VP why do you think Skitter is Mafia again?

She was pretty stilted initially, a quality I was speculating one might see from scum facing this player list in such a small game.

I also found her reaction to pressure to be not great. I think she has made some fairly disingenuous responses to me, and it is clear fmpov she is omgusing on what started as a somewhat reaction testing play from me.

That being said, her also omgusing datisi has me pausing. Trying to figure out if maybe skitter is just kind of annoyed with me playing aggressive at her, which I fully expect could be annoying.

In post 333, Prism wrote:That said, 150-250's almost unbelievable obliviousness of how her responses interact with the initial points still fill me with the rage of a thousand suns.

I still don't quite understand why this was upsetting you. Do you feel like Ari was willfully misunderstanding you? Your point felt kind of convoluted to me, so I can understand how ari might not get it right away, but maybe there is something between you two that is affecting how you feel about it.

Also, Prism, can you explain the datisi-scum case to me? You think he is nit picking skitter as busy work for a catchup, yes?

I felt 197 was intentionally shifting the discussion to something more favorable underhandedly rather than a direct refutation. Playing the "I don't understand" card simultaneously when I looped its point back around to the original argument had me in disbelief. I interpreted it as a glimmer of understanding and sleight of hand, so yes, it felt incredibly malicious.

Aristeia has previously accused me of intentionally making things convoluted/hard to understand, in another we had a postgame blowup about how she wanted to pick a miserable fight with me only to tactically replace out when it was started on my terms, and I didn't think it was even difficult to understand for someone familiar with the feedback I directly gave her. It's also been a very effective and frequently used tactic against me, and Aristeia has seen it in action.

I thought Aristeia would headhunt and play dumb as scum, absolutely. I don't think she'd actually abandon pushing, though, if those were really her motivations.

Datisi scumcase was less busy work IMO but more awkwardly trying to get footing. I thought the pedantry about skitter asking "Because...?" from dwlee fit the bill, almost RVS-style aggression. 369 is really grilling skitter over why she didn't play optimally and reframe the discussion back to something healthy in an interaction where fundamentally both parties just said "no u suck" in one word responses and didn't bother to help each other at all. 66 wasn't asking skitter for reasoning, it was just flopping. skitter asking for reasoning from dwlee's side might get something or might get the "well why didn't you?" response.

Just such an arbitrary push to me

I'm having flashbacks to the "but it wasn't a teamread why would you think it's a teamread" argument when she literally said "right now I think the team is exactly prism/skitter" and I want to go throw a brick through every window of her house