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↑ Shanba wrote:While triforce is good on yorick, I'm generally skeptical of builds that involve getting 6000+ golds worth of items before investing in any defence on a melee character. What's more, yorick scales better than most bruisers off pure ad (which atmogs is rich in and triforce is poor in) thanks to both ad ratios on his q and e and the fact that ghouls gain a percentage of his attack damage (35% iirc). I've no doubt that despite this triforce builds do more damage, but then again when you invest 4k gold in a damage item I certainly hope it would do more damage, but yorick and other bruisers also need to be able to survive being in the fray, which is why atmogs is so good generally.

Which is the idea behind getting the glacial and the negatron before beginning to invest in the tri-force (and then adding more health later on) - it should give you enough resistances to back up your health that you don't instantly melt in a fight. If you're feeling really squishy, you could go for a giant's belt before going in on the tri-force. I've been wanting to try that for a while but haven't had the opportunity.

Shanba wrote:Then there's the fact that yorick remains a threat even without a huge amount of damage items due to duplicating your ad carry, so he can persist on low damage for a while before he needs to ramp it up. If you really need to get your damage online faster, manamune-giants belt-atmas-finish warmogs is a good build path (possibly even optimal one for getting atmogs generally, imo)

I'd ask myself after spending 2000 gold on manamune whether my next purchase really needs to be another big damage item. I think the answer is generally no unless you're absolutely crushing face (which, granted, is fairly common on yorick).

I don't really like atmog's as compared to a triforce + manamune + tankiness build on Yorick solely due to the fact that the sheen procs work so well on him (and the phage slows are useful too). Atmog's is perfectly viable, I just don't think it's a route to be taking.

I'm also not really a fan of any annie build which is deathcapless at the 25 minute mark. You need that raw burst by then, or you may as well be playing a gimped alistar. Deathcap is 180 ap all on its own, and then the 30% passive that applies to any other ap you get means that its absolutely core on virtually every caster, and necessary to have the dominant midgame that most casters enjoy.

I agree. If you're playing an AP carry, you need to build your hat as your 2nd AP item at the very latest, IMO.

Note to self: Kassadin mid vs. Lux is bad for business.

Kassadin should rape her easy.

that pedofile.

So I jumped into a game... Morgana demanded to go bot with me, and our Ezreal died to their Veigar twice before level 5. I thought it was going to be bad, but I just kept getting double kills on their MF/Renekton. I'm loving Graves so much.

omfg 30 minute log in wait...

YAH I KNO


but now its over 20000
instead of
over 9000

There's a varient I've seen kicking around on TL;

Rules:
• 5v5 Draft Mode.
• Players cannot use the Smite skill.
• First team to kill a dragon wins.

Pretty fun format with a suprising amount of depth.

^The game might be a little more interesting if it were baron, but I would totally play that.

↑ Amrun wrote:^The game might be a little more interesting if it were baron, but I would totally play that.

Baron is too hard to kill and spawns too late in the game.

Cho'gath and fiddle become top tier bans, methinks.

Hehe. That is all I need to say.

WTF do you do against a fed Kassadin?

↑ MrZepher wrote:WTF do you do against a fed Kassadin?

Surrender

You... go back in time and not feed him?

Grab some MR, and hope he itemizes poorly. I've seen so many games where people get fed, spend the gold poorly, and then suck. And on the other side, I've seen so many people try to prematurely surrender because "X is fed, it's over." Maybe if they do a good Void/Veil/Cap build, sure, but they might neglect magi pen or they might neglect resistance. Wait and see.

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↑ TheButtonmen wrote:There's a varient I've seen kicking around on TL;

Rules:
?• 5v5 Draft Mode.
?• Players cannot use the Smite skill.
?• First team to kill a dragon wins.

Pretty fun format with a suprising amount of depth.

Cho
fiddle
nunu
Yi
tryn

this is win. ,,,,,,,,,,,,

↑ drmyshottyizsik wrote:
Cho
fiddle
nunu

Warwick

tryn

this is win. ,,,,,,,,,,,,

FTFY

Shaco would be godmode for that. He can zone with boxes and then go over the wall in a pinch. Not to mention razors + hallucination.

Nunu is great to pocket the Consume; with no smites, that's probably what gets the dragon.

Come to think of it, you probably want 2 people that can dragon and 3 that can zone off the enemy. Something like blue buff anivia, rumble, ???, shaco, nunu.

How do they decide blue vs. purple? Blue has a HUGE edge in that mode.

So its probably time for me to expand to more than just Veigar.

I'd love suggestions.

Try Annie if you want something similar but different. She's a good caster and cheap.

If you want a non-caster, well, it could go a lot of ways. What do you enjoy in the game?

Just try out every free champ every week and figure out which ones you like and which ones you don't.

↑ Amrun wrote:Just try out every free champ every week and figure out which ones you like and which ones you don't.

This. It's what I did, and it's worked well. I really only play bot games, but that's fine.

↑ hasdgfas wrote:

↑ Amrun wrote:Just try out every free champ every week and figure out which ones you like and which ones you don't.

This. It's what I did, and it's worked well. I really only play bot games, but that's fine.

Fuck that play every free week champ every week in normal games.

Well lets see.

The one thing I know about myself and games like this is I hate hybrids - in the sense that if its a melee I want the all the skills to get better as a function of attack power, not magic, etc.

I, normally, like dealing damage versus tanking. Usually I get made fun of for being a glass cannon