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I choose to believe the block of town-aligned third parties have our best interests at heart because there are lots of them
There is no more that needs to be argued there

In post 5275, jjh927 wrote:I choose to believe the block of town-aligned third parties have our best interests at heart because there are lots of them
There is no more that needs to be argued there

sound logic

In post 5266, shellyc wrote:DS probs in the scumpool as well due to Poe + I dislike the shading and discrediting

i mean you were literally doing the same until you got called out though...

In post 5267, Bell wrote:I very slightly read DS as town.

i'm inclined to agree, only because it makes no sense for him as scum to be out on a limb like he is. I know some will say that maybe he's doing it precisely to get townread, but in a game like this where there isn't much emphasis on reads/scumhunting, and somebody just got elimmed for arguing against the masons, and a mason is unilaterally choosing the elim today it seems unlikely.

so we're going DS-town

I'm gonna make a bold guess and say I think only 1 of those 3 listed by the Mod is scum. otherwise this game is broken as hell, and if it's a scum-driven requirement, they would almost certainly do 1 scum, 2 town. So if we flip scum within that trio, I'm ok with giving the others a pass for the time being. If we assume A50 aint gonna kill a mason, here's my readslist:

Would most shoot:

TheGoldenParadox - red flag interaction with Gamma-scum
DrDoLittle - too much buddying with Gamma-scum throughout, and within mod's scumpool.
Pickaxe Pete - not a great ISO at all, and within the mod's scumpool.
Bell - i just read ISO. definitely reads as informed minority who knew Gamma was scum (hence a regular smattering of distancing throughout Day 1 without really pushing his elim), and knew April was town (decidedly unconvinced about the whole thing, but not really pushing for a save or any alternative).
Tayl0r Swift - moderate gut feeling she is scum this game, due to gamma interplay.
shellyc - Predecessor was very scummy.
jjh927 - this guy has been lurky as hell, so i can't really say scummy. but he was here since the start and has an award for "best replacement". lurkerscum?
MathBlade - good player, overall has felt town, feels slightly less town today for reasons. I was more bought into him being town when he was tunnelled on the masons, now I'm less sold.
Chemist1422 - pretty null, i'll go town by PoE I guess.
DiamondSentinel - blindly attacking the masons, which would be very dumb as scum, as explained above.
Something_Smart - understands how this game works, even if scum, for goodness sake don't shoot this guy, we need his knowledge.

Would least shoot:

In post 5273, jjh927 wrote:Of the funky little trio I'm in, I'm a little confused by Pete suggesting nothing indicates the army is scum when Gamma literally claimed scum

What are you talking about? I never suggested any such thing?

In post 5242, Something_Smart wrote:Your response implied that it was obvious that their wincon might not be what they claimed, but that implication didn't fit with my impression of the game.

Like this is literally the game of mafia though, pretty sure any day 1 player could tell you this. We’ve simply made a judgement that taking them at their word is more helpful than not. Imagine someone claimed a power role and we talked for 10 pages about the fact that they MIGHT be lying and actually be scum! You would probably say that’s a pretty surface-level observation to be discussing over and over again, wouldn’t you??

In post 5279, Morning Mage wrote:I'm gonna make a bold guess and say I think only 1 of those 3 listed by the Mod is scum. otherwise this game is broken as hell, and if it's a scum-driven requirement, they would almost certainly do 1 scum, 2 town. So if we flip scum within that trio, I'm ok with giving the others a pass for the time being. If we assume A50 aint gonna kill a mason, here's my readslist:

Would most shoot:

TheGoldenParadox - red flag interaction with Gamma-scum
DrDoLittle - too much buddying with Gamma-scum throughout, and within mod's scumpool.
Pickaxe Pete - not a great ISO at all, and within the mod's scumpool.
Bell - i just read ISO. definitely reads as informed minority who knew Gamma was scum (hence a regular smattering of distancing throughout Day 1 without really pushing his elim), and knew April was town (decidedly unconvinced about the whole thing, but not really pushing for a save or any alternative).
Tayl0r Swift - moderate gut feeling she is scum this game, due to gamma interplay.
shellyc - Predecessor was very scummy.
jjh927 - this guy has been lurky as hell, so i can't really say scummy. but he was here since the start and has an award for "best replacement". lurkerscum?
MathBlade - good player, overall has felt town, feels slightly less town today for reasons. I was more bought into him being town when he was tunnelled on the masons, now I'm less sold.
Chemist1422 - pretty null, i'll go town by PoE I guess.
DiamondSentinel - blindly attacking the masons, which would be very dumb as scum, as explained above.
Something_Smart - understands how this game works, even if scum, for goodness sake don't shoot this guy, we need his knowledge.

Would least shoot:

TS is bleeding green and idk why nobody else sees it
they're spiritually interested in solving while being town taylor who is less of a tryhard.

MM, what we have to do in that trio is outWIFOM the scum. I doubt its 1 scum 2 town if scum picked it tbh. if the one scum gets flipped, town will just ignore the others thus losing out on chainlynching

Alright. I have a request to slow the rate of posting so I can data dive.

@Pete, Do you prefer a DDL or jjh lynch today? Outside of the pool, who is your lynch?

In post 5270, jjh927 wrote:However, VOTE: A50 is probably the correct call here?

No stop obvscumming

Actually keep obvscumming it will help my case

In post 5279, Morning Mage wrote:Bell - i just read ISO. definitely reads as informed minority who knew Gamma was scum (hence a regular smattering of distancing throughout Day 1 without really pushing his elim), and knew April was town (decidedly unconvinced about the whole thing, but not really pushing for a save or any alternative).

Bell felt eh at first given their ability to obvtown but:

there's OOG things that impact that slots ability to give content but i feel like their reaction towards my pressure + [redacted] makes town!bell

In post 5277, Morning Mage wrote:i mean you were literally doing the same until you got called out though...

what did I ever shade and discredit

I have been a sound believer in that the 6 3ps are protown since I joined this game

Bell towntold btw if he’s scum he’s not helping his team so you can townblock him

In post 5278, Morning Mage wrote:

In post 5267, Bell wrote:I very slightly read DS as town.

i'm inclined to agree, only because it makes no sense for him as scum to be out on a limb like he is. I know some will say that maybe he's doing it precisely to get townread, but in a game like this where there isn't much emphasis on reads/scumhunting, and somebody just got elimmed for arguing against the masons, and a mason is unilaterally choosing the elim today it seems unlikely.

so we're going DS-town

why is blindly shading the masons ever protown
do you think that's tstbs

If scum picked it it’s probably all 3 scum

In post 5282, shellyc wrote:

In post 5279, Morning Mage wrote:I'm gonna make a bold guess and say I think only 1 of those 3 listed by the Mod is scum. otherwise this game is broken as hell, and if it's a scum-driven requirement, they would almost certainly do 1 scum, 2 town. So if we flip scum within that trio, I'm ok with giving the others a pass for the time being. If we assume A50 aint gonna kill a mason, here's my readslist:

Would most shoot:

TheGoldenParadox - red flag interaction with Gamma-scum
DrDoLittle - too much buddying with Gamma-scum throughout, and within mod's scumpool.
Pickaxe Pete - not a great ISO at all, and within the mod's scumpool.
Bell - i just read ISO. definitely reads as informed minority who knew Gamma was scum (hence a regular smattering of distancing throughout Day 1 without really pushing his elim), and knew April was town (decidedly unconvinced about the whole thing, but not really pushing for a save or any alternative).
Tayl0r Swift - moderate gut feeling she is scum this game, due to gamma interplay.
shellyc - Predecessor was very scummy.
jjh927 - this guy has been lurky as hell, so i can't really say scummy. but he was here since the start and has an award for "best replacement". lurkerscum?
MathBlade - good player, overall has felt town, feels slightly less town today for reasons. I was more bought into him being town when he was tunnelled on the masons, now I'm less sold.
Chemist1422 - pretty null, i'll go town by PoE I guess.
DiamondSentinel - blindly attacking the masons, which would be very dumb as scum, as explained above.
Something_Smart - understands how this game works, even if scum, for goodness sake don't shoot this guy, we need his knowledge.

Would least shoot:

TS is bleeding green and idk why nobody else sees it
they're spiritually interested in solving while being town taylor who is less of a tryhard.

MM, what we have to do in that trio is outWIFOM the scum. I doubt its 1 scum 2 town if scum picked it tbh. if the one scum gets flipped, town will just ignore the others thus losing out on chainlynching

i agree on less of a tryhard point for taylor. the rest i disagree.

In post 5290, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If scum picked it it’s probably all 3 scum

In post 5288, superbowl9 wrote:Bell towntold btw if he’s scum he’s not helping his team so you can townblock him

can you elaborate a bit further than this

assuming we're not nuking the masons I would go
DrDoLittle
Pickaxe Pete
Chemist1422
TGP
Something_Smart/DiamondSentinel
jjh927
MathBlade
Tayl0r Swift/Bell

In post 5289, shellyc wrote:

In post 5278, Morning Mage wrote:

In post 5267, Bell wrote:I very slightly read DS as town.

i'm inclined to agree, only because it makes no sense for him as scum to be out on a limb like he is. I know some will say that maybe he's doing it precisely to get townread, but in a game like this where there isn't much emphasis on reads/scumhunting, and somebody just got elimmed for arguing against the masons, and a mason is unilaterally choosing the elim today it seems unlikely.

so we're going DS-town

why is blindly shading the masons ever protown
do you think that's tstbs

i didnt say it was protown. i said i thought it made him more likely town. and i literally explained why in the post you quoted, so i dont know why you're asking me to repeat it??

In post 5291, Morning Mage wrote:i agree on less of a tryhard point for taylor. the rest i disagree.

MM i believe you're protown aligned and due to not wanting to spam the thread I'm gonna agree to disagree

also where is MT can you guys sign posts

In post 5284, superbowl9 wrote:

In post 5270, jjh927 wrote:However, VOTE: A50 is probably the correct call here?

No stop obvscumming

i mean, he was right though

In post 5294, Morning Mage wrote:

In post 5289, shellyc wrote:

In post 5278, Morning Mage wrote:

In post 5267, Bell wrote:I very slightly read DS as town.

i'm inclined to agree, only because it makes no sense for him as scum to be out on a limb like he is. I know some will say that maybe he's doing it precisely to get townread, but in a game like this where there isn't much emphasis on reads/scumhunting, and somebody just got elimmed for arguing against the masons, and a mason is unilaterally choosing the elim today it seems unlikely.

so we're going DS-town

why is blindly shading the masons ever protown
do you think that's tstbs

i didnt say it was protown. i said i thought it made him more likely town. and i literally explained why in the post you quoted, so i dont know why you're asking me to repeat it??

yeah. that actively opposing them is town because its too bold of a scum play. but I can def see DS going with that approach to farm towncred and this is like. half a poe read.

In post 5293, shellyc wrote:

In post 5288, superbowl9 wrote:Bell towntold btw if he’s scum he’s not helping his team so you can townblock him

can you elaborate a bit further than this

assuming we're not nuking the masons I would go
DrDoLittle
Pickaxe Pete
Chemist1422
TGP
Something_Smart/DiamondSentinel
jjh927
MathBlade
Tayl0r Swift/Bell

Do you townread jjh or something??
He towntold by not even knowing there were 2 mason factions. Assuming he didn’t just pretend to not know that while actually keeping up with the game, paying that little attention to mechanical info is a towntell

In post 5295, shellyc wrote:

In post 5291, Morning Mage wrote:i agree on less of a tryhard point for taylor. the rest i disagree.

MM i believe you're protown aligned and due to not wanting to spam the thread I'm gonna agree to disagree

i'm obviously protown aligned, but i think you're wrong and am not going to argue it further. my assumption is my assumption.