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Wtf. Disloyal FV. LOLOLOL and TLK claimed the fruitCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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thisIn post 5162, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Think the replacements killed us more than anything.
Baezu also coming out of nowhere for the Day 1 hammer.
I'm sorry team :(-
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yeah if I had known what the setup was, I wouldn't have replaced in
one of the single most disheartening things I could ever imagine happening this game is feeling like I'm playing well, then suddenly one day it's revealed there's like 6 conftowns on the same day I claim a fruit
even if this setup is balanced in theory, it's horrible to try to play as scum since you have to play a very good night game-
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you weren't in this game rcenigma- pisskop
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unless he is tet?beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.- Tet
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See You, Space Cowboybeeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.- Flavor Leaf
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Yeah, I hardcore outed Tet as RCEnigma Day 1 because I stayedIn post 5332, the worst wrote:you weren't in this game rcenigma
The only possible way that Tet could be town playing the way he was was if he was RCE.
And then light bulb came up, and I was like, oh, he is RCE. Then he confirmed.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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<3In post 5334, Tet wrote:It is I, DIO.
yeah I didn't realise until FL outed you, I had a feeling you were too good to be a newbie and got mad good vibes from you but I didn't try to id you- RadiantCowbells
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dead thread - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=79607
scum/masons/neighbors have 48 hours to ask for any redactions or veto the release of their PTshewoo- Skygazer
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N1
saudade neighborizes enigma (success)
baezu loud babysits elsa jay (elsa jay hears baezu visit them)
tet uses his vanilla townie voice to tell a50 he'll miss him
BEF motion detects elsa (motion detected)
creature fruit vends flavor (failure; FL is town)
elsa kills skitter (success)
tlk rolecops flavor (vanilla)
N2
saudade recruits ofrhz (success !!)
baezu protcc saudade (saudade gets loud message)
creature fruits TLK (tlk gets a fruit !)
BEF motion detects baezu (motion detected)
tlk kills tet (success: tet dies)
N3
baezu loud babysits flavor leaf (fl hears the visit)
BEF motion detects luv (motion detected)
creature attempts to fruit vend roster (failure)
sausage recruits roster (success)
luv kills flavor (failure - doc)hewoo- Elsa Jay
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I was sad when Beazu came out with literally only like minutes left and hammered Almost. I was gonna suicide anyway but I wanted to make that slot atleast questioned. That and I misread Fire's ISO and assumed everyone would scumread him anyway. I'm still doing that regardless of alignment though cuz it's funny and it kills another tell from being used.
A game that starts with 3 IC's and what's basically a Masonizor? Yeah if i knew that was the Set up I would've avoided it like the plague.I made a GTKAS. Go shitpost in it if you want. It's very lonely.
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In terms of set-up stuff:
scum had the tools they needed to identify power roles in the form of their role cop
the alien allowed them to create fake-guilties based on the loyal neighborizer's role
we figured disloyal fv wasn't actually that strong of an invest (schadd had mentioned that claiming fruit a received fruit isn't something that happens all the time and there would be a ton of paranoia over any "clears")
motion detector is generally a p weak role imo as well
loyal neighborizer is p OP in hindsight?? gating that would've probably brought this closer to balanced for sure but a role like neighborizer can be outted so easily and a role like alien could certainly create a fake guilty leading to a mislynch
i think i want to take a more minimalist approach to modding normals going forward after seeing the results of this game
granted losing three scum in a row is basically gonna create some insurmountable odds anyways sohewoo- Skygazer
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yeah it's kinda hard to call the setup explicitly townsided by play when scum lost 3 of their roles b2b2b :c I do think the rate of alignment indicative night results kinda snowballed here in a way that was hugely swingy but a lot can be attributed to the scumteam's play- Creature
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01 Town Innocent Child - Quite redundant with masons
02 Town Mason - Quite redundant with IC
03 Town Mason - Quite redundant with IC
04 Town Loud Babysitter - Preeettty fine considering it could be negative utility for town
05 Town Disloyal Fruit Vendor - Fine considering it can also lead to false innos
06 Town Motion Detector - Fine considering it almost doesn't tell shit
07 Town Loyal Neighborizer - Probably the most annoyingly OP role in the gameSigh- Creature
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It wasn't unwinnable, but I think Ank's right that scum need to get the nightplay right to have any chance. The loyal neighborizer basically needs to die or be jailkept after a few nights or it will absolutely run away with the game.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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