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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:25 am
by RCEnigma
LLD my hero!

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:26 am
by RCEnigma
GG all. Ty for modding!

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:38 am
by Chemist1422
Oh we won

Sweet

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:54 am
by Titus
RC, there were signs of LLD's mason being fake.
I saw them.

The two biggest ones were...1) The early null read of Katsuki by LLD and saying she could sort her later.
2) The abnormal as fuck voting pattern, which suggested someone familiar with how I operate was calling the shots.

Looking at dead chat, others felt the mason claim was fake.

Yet, you had to be in charge and stifle all discussion. You railroaded a fair amount of the game.

When a toxic leader emerges, people don't rebel to his face but in other ways. You literally failed to notice the extreme amount of effort I put in to work with you, so I gave up. Scum can and will capitalize on that. If you continue to demand to be leader, you need to get the best out of people.

You were just as helpful as Katsuki. Without you being you, maybe we second guess it.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:55 am
by Titus
*calling the shots regarding VCA, not in the game

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:56 am
by Dannflor
I really don't think that's fair

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:02 am
by Titus
Do you think RC's play was good? That RC randomly fighting with town and throwing his weight around helped?

What do you think is fair to him? What I told RC might not have been what he'd like to hear, but I think he needed it.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:31 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 5331, Titus wrote:Do you think RC's play was good? That RC randomly fighting with town and throwing his weight around helped?

What do you think is fair to him? What I told RC might not have been what he'd like to hear, but I think he needed it.
my play led me to have a shit ton of townreads and a scumread on every non-falsely-confirmed scum, 3 of which we led on on a d1 where we only really voted 6 people and 2 immediately became trs.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:34 am
by Shiro
Titus, without katsuki we would have won, rc brute forcing his leadership without katsuki doing worse than nothing would have won us because rc and Sakura wanted LLD lynch that got stopped by Mason bs.

Morale of the story is though, never fake Mason.

Anyways I will wait for the game that I get to witness the God katsuki I was promised.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:40 am
by Shiro
Btw we almost vanillad game to save ourselves using makk. In hindsight, we should have done so, Nancy was right :( Sorry Nancy using star was too risky of a guess that something would happen. Oh well.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:44 am
by Dannflor
Randomly fighting town is an odd criticism given every player has probably fought town in about every game. Even despite the mistakes this game, RC’s reads were better than most and I don’t think it’s fair to blame him for not knowing the mason claim was fake.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:06 am
by Titus
In post 5335, Dannflor wrote:Randomly fighting town is an odd criticism given every player has probably fought town in about every game. Even despite the mistakes this game, RC’s reads were better than most and I don’t think it’s fair to blame him for not knowing the mason claim was fake.
That's an absolute fiction.

Gameplay shot CW.
Tana wanted LLD alone. RC conditioned that on me being scum as well.
RC violently tunneled SS long after it was productive.
He engaged in a pissing match with me when I tried basic scumhunting because it wasn't his mislynch du jour.
He pushed many town players to wagon status by stifling dissent.
He didn't want the RCE wagon that was deep hammerred.

By the time he lynched HH, town was so demotivated we just did what he said, which is how you got quicklynched.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:08 am
by Dannflor
If you did what he said I wouldn’t have been quick lynched?

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:09 am
by Titus
In post 5337, Dannflor wrote:If you did what he said I wouldn’t have been quick lynched?
RC was the one pushing your lynch soooo

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:13 am
by Bitmap
This is why we lost.

Sure we could of optimized things here and there but it wouldn't have been enough.

I did use my cop ability on LLD but unfortunately I died that same night.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:17 am
by RadiantCowbells
titus assertions about my play: fact or fiction
In post 5338, Titus wrote:
In post 5337, Dannflor wrote:If you did what he said I wouldn’t have been quick lynched?
RC was the one pushing your lynch soooo
complete fiction and actually the opposite of true
Tana wanted LLD alone. RC conditioned that on me being scum as well.
complete fiction
RC violently tunneled SS long after it was productive.
not too far from fact in the sense that it could be claimed this is what happened from a slant, i guess
He engaged in a pissing match with me when I tried basic scumhunting because it wasn't his mislynch du jour.
fiction because you were trying to mislynch town and i was trying to correctly lynch HH. aka, it wasn't a mislynch du jour. it was a scumlynch du jour.
He pushed many town players to wagon status by stifling dissent.
I only led 1 mislynch this entire game, so fiction.
He didn't want the RCE wagon that was deep hammerred.
I 180ed about whether or not RcE was an HH scumpartner. while it is a
fact
that I did not, my preferred wagon was also scum.
By the time he lynched HH, town was so demotivated we just did what he said, which is how you got quicklynched.
again, utter fiction given that dannflor was my tr
If you did what he said I wouldn’t have been quick lynched?
reality isn't as important as finding reasons to accuse my play of being bad

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:19 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 5340, RadiantCowbells wrote:I 180ed about whether or not RcE was an HH scumpartner. while it is a fact that I did not, my preferred wagon was also scum.
also not only is this true, the first thing i messaged sakura after finding out that rce was lynched was that i was fine with it bc i thought RcE had high probability of being scum
so essentially you're faulting me for having a stronger scumread on one scum than the other scum.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:20 am
by RadiantCowbells
titus you're clearly mad at me for the way I make you feel, not the results

maybe you should make an argument on that ground instead of trying to stretch and distort to try to argue why my play is -suboptimal- when it clearly worked really well for us.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:21 am
by RCEnigma
I'm cool with releasing the mafia pt minus the part I cried.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:27 am
by Dannflor
In post 5338, Titus wrote:
In post 5337, Dannflor wrote:If you did what he said I wouldn’t have been quick lynched?
RC was the one pushing your lynch soooo
He had me as town.

You, gameplay and DDL were pushing my lynch.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:54 am
by Wisdom
In post 3018, Tana and Ephraim wrote:
In post 3012, Katsuki wrote:
In post 2982, Tana and Ephraim wrote: MS only became what it is now because of me and people like me. MS is unique in having a meta of scum usually all kinda doing their own thing and bussing a lot.
.
Are you claiming responsibility for ms becoming shit for mafia gameplay? :P
I thought it was because of wisdom and ppl like wisdom
-Tana
In post 3023, Katsuki wrote:Haha Wisdom, god was he one of the worst mafia players I've ever seen.

Bless his heart calling me scum fake claiming investigative guilties on both my scumbuddies to powerlynch them.
these posts summoned me back to ms

just so you know who to blame :P

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:57 am
by Torque
Town lost krazy’s anime upick too because town claimed masons with scum
Can we just not
Town shouldnt have to analyze the game with the consideration that there could be other town gamethrowing

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:01 am
by RCEnigma
In post 5346, Torque wrote:Town lost krazy’s anime upick too because town claimed masons with scum
Can we just not
Town shouldnt have to analyze the game with the consideration that there could be other town gamethrowing
Assume every other townie is throwing and it becomes a non-issue.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:02 am
by Sakura Hana
Damn we got a stalker.

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 6:09 am
by RadiantCowbells
it's funny because fake guilties are a lot less damaging to town than fake innos