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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:13 am
by implosion
Why exactly do you think the checks were shannon and AGar?
In post 5044, beeboy wrote:{Zach, Dunn, Me, Trans, Varsoon, Implosion, Kraska}
Who is left.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:14 am
by kraska77
EH...WHY IS SHANNON CONFIRMED TOWN? WE DONT KNOW WHO BEEBOY CHECKED AND TBH HER DAY 4 WAS KINDA WEIRD, SHE'S TOWN PROBABLY THO
THE QUESTION IS WHO WAS BEEBOY MOST LIKELY TO CHECK ON NIGHT 3?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:14 am
by implosion
I think the checks were most likely Varsoon and myself, but that's literally from just looking at the first post of each day.
Really at this point there is probably 1 scum left so we just sit here and wait for Dunnstral and a50 to claim and then we break the game wide open.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:14 am
by Boem_u_dusi
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:17 am
by implosion
I feel like he would put his two confirmed-town checks in the first list of players rather than doing what appears to be PoE on them
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:18 am
by kraska77
@POST 5352 DOUBT IT. NEITHER WAS A PERSON OF INTEREST TO THE MAJORITY OF PLAYERS ON DAYS 1 TO 3
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:19 am
by Boem_u_dusi
In post 5354, implosion wrote:I feel like he would put his two confirmed-town checks in the first list of players rather than doing what appears to be PoE on them
Why did he isolate AGar and shannon then and said they were town?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:20 am
by implosion
kraska can you actually please stop capslocking.
And explain why airick's d1 implies AGar is town. All i see from a glance is a jump from Varsoon to AGar when there was no AGar wagon and there's no reason that couldn't be distancing.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:21 am
by Boem_u_dusi
In post 5355, kraska77 wrote:@POST 5352 DOUBT IT. NEITHER WAS A PERSON OF INTEREST TO THE MAJORITY OF PLAYERS ON DAYS 1 TO 3
It doesn't matter who is a person of interest to town. Both AGar and shannon checks make perfect sense because they're likely to survive the night if they are town so the checks aren't wasted.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:21 am
by implosion
and boem, it looks like he was going in with the assumption "all of the people in this initial list are town" and then narrowing it down from there by looking at the remaining players and trying to figure out which were likely town.
I think he'd put confirmed-town investigates in the first group. I may be wrong. I'd like to look more indepth at his iso.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:22 am
by Boem_u_dusi
In post 4083, beeboy wrote: In post 4082, Transcend wrote:Well if it were someone other than my scumread discrediting my reads then I'd give it a second look.
Since that isn't the case, lemme simplify my reads.
{Dunn, Zach, shannon, Almost50}
{kraska, Airick, Wake}
{Mirhawk, podoboq, beeboy}
{Titus, Peregrine}
{Varsoon}
{AGar}
{Boem, implosion}
feels pretty safe to me.
Why is AGar scum?
This also suggests green check for AGar.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:23 am
by Boem_u_dusi
Look at his ISO, his first votes are AGar and shannon. It makes sense that he checked them.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:24 am
by Boem_u_dusi
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:24 am
by Boem_u_dusi
In post 3633, beeboy wrote:Varsoon and AGar need to hug
I am 99% sure I know what Varsoons role is so nah let's not make him claim.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:24 am
by implosion
like he said "We will hard lynch the remaining players and win"
before he said that AGar and shannon were town
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:25 am
by kraska77
ok i turned it off
i agree with the varsoon check. makes sense because he openly trusted him
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:26 am
by implosion
this post was before night 3... he couldn't have checked them both by now
and his d1-2 are also very consistent with having checked varsoon, as your next quote agrees with as well
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:27 am
by Boem_u_dusi
In post 5364, implosion wrote:like he said "We will hard lynch the remaining players and win"
before he said that AGar and shannon were town
I think he pointed out AGar and shannon deliberately. I don't think you were the check. Varsoon could be though.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:28 am
by implosion
I'm certainly not confident that I was the second but I still think AGar is likely scum so :shrug:
Anyway. None of this matters. We need Dunnstral to claim if he shot beeboy, and we need a50 to claim who he jailkept, asap.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:29 am
by Boem_u_dusi
In post 5366, implosion wrote:
this post was before night 3... he couldn't have checked them both by now
and his d1-2 are also very consistent with having checked varsoon, as your next quote agrees with as well
I missed that it was D3. So Varsoon was checked and ... ?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:30 am
by Boem_u_dusi
In post 5368, implosion wrote:I'm certainly not confident that I was the second but I still think AGar is likely scum so :shrug:
Anyway. None of this matters. We need Dunnstral to claim if he shot beeboy, and we need a50 to claim who he jailkept, asap.
It's probably GG at this point, but I still want to make sure.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:32 am
by kraska77
In post 5357, implosion wrote:kraska can you actually please stop capslocking.
And explain why airick's d1 implies AGar is town. All i see from a glance is a jump from Varsoon to AGar when there was no AGar wagon and there's no reason that couldn't be distancing.
airick was sort of fence sitting between the titus and vedith wagons at the time when they were happening, then as soon as agar switched from titus to vedith, airick immediately voted him, i find this highly unlikely to be distancing because people regarded as conf town were slowly leaving the titus wagon and joining vedith's at the time or expressing intent to, i doubt airick would put another one of his buddies in hot water when vedith was already at 5 votes and people didnt like his posting
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:35 am
by Boem_u_dusi
Beeboy kills seems more like a vig shot than NK. I don't see how mafia figured out that he wasn't the miller.
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:37 am
by kraska77
is full vig an actual thing? or does it normally come with limited shots
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:39 am
by Boem_u_dusi
In post 5373, kraska77 wrote:is full vig an actual thing? or does it normally come with limited shots
I don't know.
Beeboy was the only kill so I guess jailkeeper protected someone or caught the killer.