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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:37 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 5343, Taly wrote:yeah Open 724 was my Perfect Scum Victory game so I'd say I performed my best there

I deepwolf'd and traumatized
the worst
lol
Can you link that? After being twice fooled by scum!duck, I really want to read this. :twisted:

<3 @tw

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:38 am
by Krazy
Yeah you're right, certainly tastes pretty townie.

So the continued solve is Gamma+TB? Like TB's continued paranoia about Moment is pretty impressive if she's scum with Gamma, ngl.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:39 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 5345, Taly wrote:
In post 5327, Krazy wrote:Like the 26? posts of Labyrinth are the main basis of your understanding of Scum Taly, right Nancy?
yeah, people like to refer to Labyrinth for me as scum

but i was a traitor who rep-ed out later

so i had no pt and i flaked. i dont think its 100% the best game to look at me for, but i was pretty mid-range performance there and was the last scum slot to be lynched i think?
No that would be random. Tw gladiated Wisdom/you before LYLO.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:39 am
by Dannflor
In post 5316, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:DT could have absolutely been protecting Gamma but I don’t recall anyone proposing Gamma be the first lynch
Remember how Gamma entered the day saying "wow it's weird how Pvt got ICed considering people were saying I was the first lynch huh"

hold on I'll get the quote in a sec

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:41 am
by Dannflor
In post 4303, Gamma Emerald wrote:Interesting given I was stated to be first lynch. Is there anything beyond WiFoM that would explain that selection?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:44 am
by Taly
i shot that
TW
N1 and he was the jailkeeper - he townread me

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=76098

in SUPP, he was scum who shot me N1 - i survived to N2 because i had a passive delay utility ;) - i townread him hard tho X_X

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76441

in Echo Bay GRITS, he was an SK and i was one of the mafia groups

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76118

in another game i forgot was when i kind of flaked D:
(but i also replaced in lol)
....
TW
was an SK and i was a heavily scumread townslot

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=76637

now you guys understand

how
TW
and I can very - very easily deathtunnel the other in a game.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:45 am
by Taly
i think SCM2 was the first game we both rolled the same alignment

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:46 am
by Taly
oh look

Dann/Nancy/Krazy
are all here.

Loving this thread at the moment.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:47 am
by Dannflor
In post 5349, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Unfortunately, I have reasons that I can’t elaborate on, both for my Dann townread and my Brie paranoia. I will meta him, to see if that changes but I have really strong reasons to townread Dann here. Like, I’m more confident on Taly but yes that and play, mechanically - Urist IC, Allo being wrong on every scumread so far, RC read and I really can’t see the sincerity and conviction in his posts, as easily fakable. Do you have some scumgames of his, that contradict that? I don’t want to be wrong here but so far, I don’t think I’m seeing Dann!scum here.
I would encourage you to meta me if you have the time. My only completed scum game is from 2012 unfortunately, but looking at some of my recent town games might help strengthen your read. I only say this because on the off chance the game doesn't end with Gamma/Brie gone, I want everyone to have the strongest possible reads they can get. I'll likely be doing the same for you once I get time.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:49 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 5351, Krazy wrote:Yeah you're right, certainly tastes pretty townie.

So the continued solve is Gamma+TB? Like TB's continued paranoia about Moment is pretty impressive if she's scum with Gamma, ngl.
That’s why I keep saying that she’s been townier than Gamma. It almost makes me a bit paranoid that Gamma isn’t playing similarly to Ok 2 here. She was full on survivalist in that game but she also played differently as scum in CoH as well, so I’m probably overthinking this.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:51 am
by Taly
I think we're overthinking.

Perhaps we should pause if
Gamma
flips town, but I sincerely, seriously, doubt a deepwolf is amongst us 4. My mind will literally break if that happens.

And so
TB
- by gameplay, associative, and PoE is scum.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:51 am
by Dannflor
In post 5235, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hi I see that I have 3 votes on me rn, could we not before I can present my case and stuff? I've found all the quotes I need so it'll probably be done in 18 hours tops.
Also let's give Pvt a chance to give some reads before we send him off? I don't really feel bothered by being voted but I feel like no one realizes the impact of removing the IC before they've had a chance to give reads
I have such a strong feeling that

Gamma is Grima Wormtongue whispering into the ear of our King IC PvTheoden

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:52 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 5353, Dannflor wrote:
In post 5316, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:DT could have absolutely been protecting Gamma but I don’t recall anyone proposing Gamma be the first lynch
Remember how Gamma entered the day saying "wow it's weird how Pvt got ICed considering people were saying I was the first lynch huh"

hold on I'll get the quote in a sec
In post 5354, Dannflor wrote:
In post 4303, Gamma Emerald wrote:Interesting given I was stated to be first lynch. Is there anything beyond WiFoM that would explain that selection?
Yeah, I see your point but does anyone think that Gamma was in jeopardy of being lynched over DT, had he miraculously been able to turn things around?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:52 am
by Krazy
In post 934, Dannflor wrote:Town [Taly, Gamma, Vedith, Krazy, Ankamius]
Lean Town [Pink Ball, Alisae, Firebringer, RC]
Mixed [Nancy]
Null [TheBrie, Doubting Thomas, Dr Worm, Moment]
Leaning Scum [PvT]
Scum [Allomancer]
Alright let's play "can we meta Dann while only discussing towngames"

Uhhh... Dann, can you explain why you did not color-code your reads list in this game but you did in https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10691036

and

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10618196

I feel like that's actually kinda a garbage argument but it's the only thing that catches my eye in the t-8 minutes before I hammer Gamma.

And it's not like you wouldn't color code a reads list as scum because I 'feel strongly' you would LOL, guess it's just a question of when you really started 'solving' in this game I guess vs. in a more normal game

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 5340, Krazy wrote:(expired on 2019-02-20 18:00:08) -- Gamma where are you?
Hi
Can you compress your questions down if possible?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:54 am
by Taly
In post 5361, Dannflor wrote:
In post 5235, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hi I see that I have 3 votes on me rn, could we not before I can present my case and stuff? I've found all the quotes I need so it'll probably be done in 18 hours tops.
Also let's give Pvt a chance to give some reads before we send him off? I don't really feel bothered by being voted but I feel like no one realizes the impact of removing the IC before they've had a chance to give reads
I have such a strong feeling that

Gamma is Grima Wormtongue whispering into the ear of our King IC PvTheoden
re: last night's page of
Taly V Gamma + PvtUrist



Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:54 am
by Krazy
In post 5364, Gamma Emerald wrote:Can you compress your questions down if possible?
Why should I not hammer you in 5 minutes?

Go

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:55 am
by Taly
I highly doubt anyone who scumread
Urist
at any point Pre-Dance would've been OK to IC him.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:56 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 5361, Dannflor wrote:
In post 5235, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hi I see that I have 3 votes on me rn, could we not before I can present my case and stuff? I've found all the quotes I need so it'll probably be done in 18 hours tops.
Also let's give Pvt a chance to give some reads before we send him off? I don't really feel bothered by being voted but I feel like no one realizes the impact of removing the IC before they've had a chance to give reads
I have such a strong feeling that

Gamma is Grima Wormtongue whispering into the ear of our King IC PvTheoden
I'M WHO????

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:57 am
by Dannflor
Lmao, it's a fair question I guess

It's not alignment indicative for me for *reasons*

Basically, my colored reads lists occur as town when I feel like the game is closed to solved or I can solve the game by doing one. I might hypothetically do one as scum just to replicate my town game.

900 posts into the game, I didn't have super strong reasons for a lot of my reads, and I wasn't at the point where I felt sitting down and doing a giant color coded reads list with reasons would help solve the game at all.

If I did one now, I probably would color code it and provide detailed reasons for my thinking because we're very close to solving the game. That's essentially already what I plan to do by town casing my town reads later today.

I realize it's awkward to meta me while not discussing *THE GAME* I know is on your mind, but I'll do my best to answer any other questions you have

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:58 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 5366, Krazy wrote:
In post 5364, Gamma Emerald wrote:Can you compress your questions down if possible?
Why should I not hammer you in 5 minutes?

Go
Irdk tbh
Like the only non-proponent for my lynch I see is Pvt

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:59 am
by Dannflor
Gamma, what happened to your case on Brie?

What is your solve currently?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:00 am
by Gamma Emerald
My current solve is Taly + one of TB/Moment
As for that case I wanted to post it today but I doubt I'll have the time to focus on finishing it.

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:00 am
by Krazy
Since Gamma just got here I guess I won't cut her off mid-post.

But given I did give a 4 hour warning on ITH... and I feel most of my arguments have been refuted more or less...

If Gamma agrees that if she flips green, we continue on to M-TB, then I think we just go for it?

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:01 am
by Krazy
You're pretty strong on Taly > Dancefloor at this point?