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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:41 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 5324, Milobird wrote:
My point has nothing to do with you having been V/LA and more you posting about catching up. When you're kind of not that kind of dragon.
But maybe you are. We'll find out.
-Bell
why wouldn't i just make the post in the scum PT why would i apologize to scum in the main thread
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:42 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 5340, mastina wrote:You did it, sure--but so has DKKoba, so has Save the Dragons, so has Titus, and while one of {DKKoba, STD} has a fairly high chance of being the last scum the other is town so that means at least three town players have said a player who is conftown, they suspect to some extent.
this isn't even true i was just asking if mala was confirmed or not
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:43 am
by MathBlade
In post 5350, Save The Dragons wrote: In post 5324, Milobird wrote:
My point has nothing to do with you having been V/LA and more you posting about catching up. When you're kind of not that kind of dragon.
But maybe you are. We'll find out.
-Bell
why wouldn't i just make the post in the scum PT why would i apologize to scum in the main thread
It’s not about to scum it’s brownie points for trying to look Townie I think
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:44 am
by Save The Dragons
In post 5308, Milobird wrote:My personal opinion and interpretation of the catch up posts is that:
STD was apologizing to his scum team buddies. Because he doesn't really ever do catch ups as actual town.
no math, it was apologizing to my supposed scumteam
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:55 am
by Save The Dragons
i never even said "i'm going to make a big catch up post when i return" i said "i'm going to catch up" and i did catch up without making a grand gesture of it because i sometimes don't
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:59 am
by MathBlade
In post 5353, Save The Dragons wrote: In post 5308, Milobird wrote:My personal opinion and interpretation of the catch up posts is that:
STD was apologizing to his scum team buddies. Because he doesn't really ever do catch ups as actual town.
no math, it was apologizing to my supposed scumteam
My bad
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:15 am
by Save The Dragons
i feel like banging my head against a wall
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:17 am
by SirCakez
i meant to get here now but stuff has come up so I cannot
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:23 am
by mastina
Was the game solved when you rushed through a Wisdom elimination without letting him claim?
That's the 'vibe' the rest of the town had.
With respect: if that's the vibe that the town has, I'm not going to follow suit.
Because that type of vibe?
Is why the game hasn't already fucking ended in a town win.
We've had the game prolonged because of what amounts to town stupidity.
So if the town vibe is town stupidity?
I'll pass, thankyouverymuch.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:32 am
by DkKoba
mastina can u tell me what ur 3 person PoE looks like?
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:49 am
by mastina
Well right now with Milobird having basically twice-dodged my question about their role, it's:
{Save the Dragons, Milobird, DKKoba}, in about that order actually in spite of how town Milobird appears.
We have 3/8 living conftown.
I know I am town so that's 4/8.
Pooky isn't technically conftown but is as close to conftown as he can get here from his scum vig and the scumplaining to him being conftown from said vig of scum.
Which leaves three possible names.
Milobird looks town by play but I'm not letting them get away without answering my question.
You look town by both play and claim.
STD looked town by play but we're in POE territory and I have issues with his claim.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:55 am
by MathBlade
In post 5358, mastina wrote:Was the game solved when you rushed through a Wisdom elimination without letting him claim?
That's the 'vibe' the rest of the town had.
With respect: if that's the vibe that the town has, I'm not going to follow suit.
Because that type of vibe?
Is why the game hasn't already fucking ended in a town win.
We've had the game prolonged because of what amounts to town stupidity.
So if the town vibe is town stupidity?
I'll pass, thankyouverymuch.
My vibe is I don’t care who the PoE is small.
The game is prolonged due to everyone wanting to be heroes.
At this point we know there is one scum.
We just elim someone in the PoE doesn’t matter who (which is why Wisdom wasn’t a bad elim) and keep going.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:58 am
by MathBlade
The town “vibe” is a different thing altogether (I am town don’t twist that out of context)
My top three PoE’d scum are StD Mastina and Koba tbh.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:00 pm
by mastina
In post 5361, MathBlade wrote:We just elim someone in the PoE doesn’t matter who (which is why Wisdom wasn’t a bad elim) and keep going.
The problem with that mindset is that while from the perspective of the non-conftown the game is autowinnable, from the perspective of the conftown, it isn't.
Even taking Pooky to be conftown (which not everyone does), we've got 8 alive and only 3 conftown and only 3 eliminations.
Which means there's 4 names for 3 eliminations.
While the players inside the 4 names know that if the town eliminates the other 3 it should be a town win, the conftown don't.
So it DOES matter who.
The game's not actually an autowin for the town.
From MY perspective, it's a win if all of {STD, Milobird, DKKoba} are eliminated because from MY perspective, I know that I am town and thus, that the last scum must be in those three.
But from the objective viewpoint the conftown take, we've only got 3 eliminations for 4 suspects.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:04 pm
by Save The Dragons
if it is fuckin' pooky i'm going to be really upset at you people
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:35 pm
by DkKoba
In post 5363, mastina wrote: In post 5361, MathBlade wrote:We just elim someone in the PoE doesn’t matter who (which is why Wisdom wasn’t a bad elim) and keep going.
The problem with that mindset is that while from the perspective of the non-conftown the game is autowinnable, from the perspective of the conftown, it isn't.
Even taking Pooky to be conftown (which not everyone does), we've got 8 alive and only 3 conftown and only 3 eliminations.
Which means there's 4 names for 3 eliminations.
While the players inside the 4 names know that if the town eliminates the other 3 it should be a town win, the conftown don't.
So it DOES matter who.
The game's not actually an autowin for the town.
From MY perspective, it's a win if all of {STD, Milobird, DKKoba} are eliminated because from MY perspective, I know that I am town and thus, that the last scum must be in those three.
But from the objective viewpoint the conftown take, we've only got 3 eliminations for 4 suspects.
i personally think we can eliminate u and milo fro mthe limpool and have StD, me, and a freebie and im town so thats why im like just get STD here.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:51 pm
by MathBlade
In post 5363, mastina wrote: In post 5361, MathBlade wrote:We just elim someone in the PoE doesn’t matter who (which is why Wisdom wasn’t a bad elim) and keep going.
The problem with that mindset is that while from the perspective of the non-conftown the game is autowinnable, from the perspective of the conftown, it isn't.
Even taking Pooky to be conftown (which not everyone does), we've got 8 alive and only 3 conftown and only 3 eliminations.
Which means there's 4 names for 3 eliminations.
While the players inside the 4 names know that if the town eliminates the other 3 it should be a town win, the conftown don't.
So it DOES matter who.
The game's not actually an autowin for the town.
From MY perspective, it's a win if all of {STD, Milobird, DKKoba} are eliminated because from MY perspective, I know that I am town and thus, that the last scum must be in those three.
But from the objective viewpoint the conftown take, we've only got 3 eliminations for 4 suspects.
To me it doesn’t.
Me Mala Titus (dead) Cakez (yes this is conf because Fire would have stopped it)
PoE of Pooky StD Milo Mastina Koba
Assume we elim in the PoE and get it wrong
2 conf town
PoE of 3
1 conf town PoE of 2
At that point we have all the elim data and then it’s a try hard there.
If we have to try hard at all.
Today we have 20% blind guess
Tomorrow is 25%
Day after that is 33%
Day after that is 50%
The odds that all those miss is miniscule.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:51 pm
by MathBlade
And yes some of those in the PoE have more or less of a chance than others.
I am only going from hard locks.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:55 pm
by mastina
In post 5366, MathBlade wrote:PoE of Pooky StD Milo Mastina Koba
Assume we elim in the PoE and get it wrong
2 conf town
PoE of 3
1 conf town PoE of 2
At that point we have all the elim data and then it’s a try hard there.
If we have to try hard at all.
Today we have 20% blind guess
Tomorrow is 25%
Day after that is 33%
Day after that is 50%
The odds that all those miss is miniscule.
That'd be great if we had four eliminations but we don't.
We have only three.
There's one way we could get a fourth but I'm not going to spell it out for the scum just in case they haven't figured that way out.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:57 pm
by mastina
(And yes, if you're town and if you think you know what the way to get another elimination is: you absolutely should keep your mouth shut. You shouldn't even hint at the method. No breadcrumbing, no trying to say anything, just keep it entirely to yourself.)
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:05 pm
by DkKoba
too late i already cannot earn us another elim
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:20 pm
by MathBlade
In post 5368, mastina wrote: In post 5366, MathBlade wrote:PoE of Pooky StD Milo Mastina Koba
Assume we elim in the PoE and get it wrong
2 conf town
PoE of 3
1 conf town PoE of 2
At that point we have all the elim data and then it’s a try hard there.
If we have to try hard at all.
Today we have 20% blind guess
Tomorrow is 25%
Day after that is 33%
Day after that is 50%
The odds that all those miss is miniscule.
That'd be great if we had four eliminations but we don't.
We have only three.
There's one way we could get a fourth but I'm not going to spell it out for the scum just in case they haven't figured that way out.
In post 5369, mastina wrote:(And yes, if you're town and if you think you know what the way to get another elimination is: you absolutely should keep your mouth shut. You shouldn't even hint at the method. No breadcrumbing, no trying to say anything, just keep it entirely to yourself.)
It’s the same point but with three elims then.
.8 * .75 * .66666 = 40% chance of loss blind guessing.
There’s no world where Titus doesn’t decide the final elim if it gets that far and she has three choices lol
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:30 pm
by Milobird
In post 5326, mastina wrote:Yo Milo I saw you read my post.
In post 5320, mastina wrote:
Pokemon:
Meditite->Medichan
Move
(Role Flavor)
:
Detect(only???)->???
Role:
2-shot nerfed/ORIGINAL-
Motion Detector (also known as a weak-voyeur, not weak-modifier, but literally
weakened
-voyeur; may be getting an official NRG-rebranded-name soon) /
Activated Bulletproof->Flavor Cop /
Rolecop (depending on target's evolutionary status); checks what someone evolves into and if they’ve evolved/can still.
Actions:
N1, immunity, triggering evolution. N2, targeted Wisdom (result: two evolutions, one neighborizer one follower). N3, targeted Malakittens (result; evolved). N4, targeted STD (result, STD is a 2-evolution pokemon).
N5, ???. N6, ???
Notes:
Obvtown by play, but not conftown.
Milobird where's the N5/N6?
So like, having read my post could you answer this?
So about this. We didn't do anything. Why? I dunno.
-Bell
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:33 pm
by Milobird
Ask Notty, I think he just misread our role PM though, I think he thought we had 3 uses but I interpreted it differently and sent the STD check in. I just deferred to his interpretation. and never read the STD result and didn't notice until now that we got one and I was right, lol.
-Bell
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:34 pm
by Milobird
Also, I was eating a see's candy and my crown fell out.
...Rip.