Jesus fucking christ, you do not believe this do you?
I unvoted and pushed elsewhere. Nero literally says "yeet doesn't have an inno!"
How is what you're saying remotely true?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:48 am
by Nero Cain
In post 5346, Titus wrote:That's part of why I feel a need to stoo this wagon. It's major cog dis.
So...VP, who has been a major proponent to both ML's, is agency captured? and his wagon needs to be stopped? or is this about Gal who is pretty much off the table today.
I'm signing off for a bit to get some work done. This is probably the worst town I have played with in a long ass time, and it is very annoying to say the least. I can handle a few amateurs, but a large group of townies acting like they had a frontal lobotomy because they are too lazy to read the game is when I need to take a break. I'll come back later when I'm less annoyed because I don't want to say something mean to someone.
Sorry, Titus. I don't have the willpower to argue with your brother if he's just going to get played day after day by the scum because of his enormous ego.
pedit- Nero's scum strat is spam the thread and repeat lies until people like Math start repeating them for him. The idea that I was some major component of the Malcom lim is absolutely absurd. I stated pretty explicitly in thread I didn't think that wagon was likely to hit scum and I was putting my vote there to back April/yeet had info clearing glaron. I'm also not going to self vote. I've given you all tangible reasons to see that Nero is scum. He hasn't done anything of substance all game, he outted a town PR, he tried to lim a townie that was soft cleared by said town PR, he had zero response to any of this, he admits he had no protown motivation in out the PR, he pushes people without committing a vote. How many more ACTION BASED reasons do you need to see Nero is scum? Cape, who is actually in the fucking hood, understands. Titus, who is a much more capable player than most, understands. Play better town. That's all I'm saying! I'll be back later.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:01 am
by VP Baltar
In post 5349, MathBlade wrote:Fire tene and myself surely all can’t be “agency captured”.
Jesus fucking christ, you do not believe this do you?
I unvoted and pushed elsewhere. Nero literally says "yeet doesn't have an inno!"
How is what you're saying remotely true?
4585, 4617, 4625, 4643 all draw attention. what's the town motivation for posting those, unless you just believe the mafia team is completely incompetent? if you're town, maf 1000% notice those posts, and 10000% know about the soft because of them if they didn't already. all of those posts just look like dropping ""subtle"" hints to indicate you noticed bc you want to be sure it's on record. idk why town wouldn't be more careful. i noticed and said nothing bc i didn't want to tip anyone off and because i wasn't sure. you said things bc you didn't care about tipping anyone off and because you were sure bc you knew alignments already.
by the time nero said anything it was already p much out in the open
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:09 am
by tenebrousluminary
In post 5346, Titus wrote:I can't post muxh bc driving. I may miss things and cannot do citations or check them however I think a few things need responding to.
Tene, agency captured is a town player who unwittingly works for scum. I highly suspect that to be happening given the miseliminations on town. That's part of why I feel a need to stoo this wagon. It's major cog dis.
Jesus fucking christ, you do not believe this do you?
I unvoted and pushed elsewhere. Nero literally says "yeet doesn't have an inno!"
How is what you're saying remotely true?
4585, 4617, 4625, 4643 all draw attention. what's the town motivation for posting those, unless you just believe the mafia team is completely incompetent? if you're town, maf 1000% notice those posts, and 10000% know about the soft because of them if they didn't already. all of those posts just look like dropping ""subtle"" hints to indicate you noticed bc you want to be sure it's on record. idk why town wouldn't be more careful. i noticed and said nothing bc i didn't want to tip anyone off and because i wasn't sure. you said things bc you didn't care about tipping anyone off and because you were sure bc you knew alignments already.
by the time nero said anything it was already p much out in the open
I had no choice but to try to do something. Math was still pushing there because he clearly hadn't noticed. Yeet was becoming increasingly desperate and needed some kind of support.
It was not out in the open by the time Nero claimed because no one was talking about it or changing course of action because of it. So which is it?
You're trying to have it both ways. You're trying to say it was both so obvious that everyone knew, and yet Math and all the people pushing galron clearly didn't fucking get it because they were pushing there. What was Yeet or myself supposed to do there? Let math power through the galron wagon?
Nero is the one who put the role into public discussion and you can't change that fact, so -- pretty please -- pull your head out of your ass and think about what you're saying.
Respond to my post about you and why you joined and abandoned the galron wagon.
I thought Yeet lied about softs up until now when I saw their flip. My change of vote EoD off of Galron was because I read your iso and saw that you read flipped onto him making me think he was town.
In post 4455, VP Baltar wrote:front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.
Front half? I am town now?
I think galron is more likely to flip scum based on his flaky play since coming into the game, and I don't think two scum in the hood, so that would make you town.
Here, VP flipped his read from a hard scumread on Cape to a hard townread on Cape, it's not consistent with VP's outted reads and is scum motivated.
In post 4455, VP Baltar wrote:front half of this wagon is good, back half is shifty, but this seems more likely to hit scum than Malcom flip.
Front half? I am town now?
I think galron is more likely to flip scum based on his flaky play since coming into the game, and I don't think two scum in the hood, so that would make you town.
Here, VP flipped his read from a hard scumread on Cape to a hard townread on Cape, it's not consistent with VP's outted reads and is scum motivated.
UNVOTE: Galron
It looks like VP is scum in the hood and being opportunistic for a mis hammer
VOTE: VP
please dont kill another limbait target have some courage and vote VP
In post 4755, Nero Cain wrote:part of me does just want a Malcolm flip so if he flips town like I think he will we can just like kill everyone on it b/c I bet its chock full of scum
4457 and 4463 make me think Galron will flip town too. I still don't understand how the Malcolm wagon got to the point it did.
If Math and Nero switch back that gets VP up to e-2 I think. Scum!VP flip for D2 is definitely still on the table, and I think it implies town!fire going forward because of VP's attempts to pocket fire in 4700, 4705 and 4709.
It's actually pretty transparent why I moved my votes EoD. It does take some creativity to interpret my reason for leaving the Galron wagon in any other way.
In post 5359, VP Baltar wrote:What was Yeet or myself supposed to do there? Let math power through the galron wagon?
you literally said in one of the posts i linked that you thought that was the better option. you can't have it both ways
Yeah, after I tried to point it out to math repeatedly without calling it out explicitly. You're not even making sense anymore.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:39 am
by VP Baltar
In post 5367, Frogsterking wrote:It's actually pretty transparent why I moved my votes EoD. It does take some creativity to interpret my reason for leaving the Galron wagon in any other way.
Nope. You said you moved to galron because my wagon was not viable? Nothing changed about the viability of my wagon when you switched back.
I would like you to at least admit you switched because you didn't think galron was going to happen there. It is extremely obvious from the timing.
I would also like you to tell me who was using galron as limbait.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:40 am
by VP Baltar
In post 5366, Frogsterking wrote:I thought Yeet lied about softs up until now when I saw their flip.
So you thought galron was scum still yesterday when he was at e-1 and you unvoted?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:42 am
by VP Baltar
In post 5366, Frogsterking wrote:I thought Yeet lied about softs up until now when I saw their flip. My change of vote EoD off of Galron was because I read your iso and saw that you read flipped onto him making me think he was town.
I don't get how this makes sense. You think galron is town, but yeet is lying to prevent his lim????
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:46 am
by Frogsterking
I feel like VP is making it hard for townies to use the gamethread to make progress on the rest of the scumteam. I'm assuming there's a scum on the VP wagon D2 and I want to bring up the possibility that it's Dease.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:46 am
by Mizzytastic
In this example there are two kos, which mean the black group cannot die. If white takes one ko to atari the group, black takes the other. Ultimately the black group is alive and can eventually capture white at the top. However white taking either ko is a big ko threat if any other kos break out.
