Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Dunnstral]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Gunsmith

The Gunsmith is an information role that can target a player at Night to learn if they have a gun in flavor.

Members of the Mafia

(that are not Doctors), Cops, FBI Agents, Vigilantes,

other Gunsmiths

, Paranoid Gun Owners, etc. all have guns in traditional flavor. Notably, Serial Killers and Doctors do not have guns.

[MonkeyMan576]

I was declaring that I have a gun.

[MonkeyMan576]

Can the gunsmith claimers answer if their role works against the werewolf faction or only mafia

Not werewolf, no.

[Dunnstral]

Might also be checking fl
2 be continued...

Yes. The person from masonry did check fl, and he does have a gun.
Is now also claiming 1 shot, which is new. Believes it doesn't conflict w monkeyman.
So **shrug**
VOTE: leaf

What are the chances that they're a werewolf? The person claiming gunsmith in your masonry

[MonkeyMan576]

By the way, I was just listening to "He's A Pirate" from Pirates of the Carribean so that's ironic that you showed up.

[tictac]

Might also be checking fl
2 be continued...

Yes. The person from masonry did check fl, and he does have a gun.
Is now also claiming 1 shot, which is new. Believes it doesn't conflict w monkeyman.
So **shrug**
VOTE: leaf

What are the chances that they're a werewolf? The person claiming gunsmith in your masonry

the change to claime did move up the possibility ngl.
why play w claims like that in the first place tho? there was 0 reason to.
i kinda doubt both them and monkey are tho.

[Dunnstral]

this is literally the level 1 malefactor play btw

to fake a guilty on someone you think is town

there is actually 0 world that monkey goes and checks FL here over anyone else.


the narrative that he made up to check FL is frankly ridiculous + he is CCd by the masonry.

monkeyman is not the malefactor. Their claim was backed up by the gunsmith in the masonry. Malefactor wouldn't have knowledge of FL's claim. I believe that this at least substantiates monkeyman's claim.

Being cc'd by the masonry is another matter. I think it unlikely that monkeyman is a mafia who opened the day fake claiming onto somebody they would know to be town (due to monastery, and ignoring bussing for the moment).

It makes sense for Monkeyman to be either town or werewolf based on claim.

[MonkeyMan576]

So FL in our monastery claimed to be in a masonry - it is entirely possible he is a malefactor here and the play lines up with that theory - so I will likely be ignoring the slot going forward unless they deliver a scum.
They also contradicted their claim of 3 hoods at the start saying he does not have another hood.

If they try to claim anything more than that what is claimed from them - do not counterclaim it.


I believe their push to go for active posters who, I am currently townreading, is actively trying to push scum agenda but I am not sure as its day 1 and I could be wrong but I wanted to float the theory so people don't just let this happen and are not aware of the potential variables in play here.

I think I am now more comfortable with a Nashville wagon -> however I want them to come back and post before I commit.

I am mainly otherwise looking at : butterchurn, bunny, klick, tictac

btw @Malcom, how do you feel about tictac wolf?

I find it hugely suspicious that here, SCP claims that FL is a likely malefactor, but when I have a guilty result they outright dismiss it and try to discredit me.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I believe that this is the correct elimination

[Dunnstral]

Might also be checking fl
2 be continued...

Yes. The person from masonry did check fl, and he does have a gun.
Is now also claiming 1 shot, which is new. Believes it doesn't conflict w monkeyman.
So **shrug**
VOTE: leaf

What are the chances that they're a werewolf? The person claiming gunsmith in your masonry

the change to claime did move up the possibility ngl.
why play w claims like that in the first place tho? there was 0 reason to.
i kinda doubt both them and monkey are tho.

It's not actually impossible for both players to be town here. Also not impossible for one to be a werewolf true claiming their role.

[MonkeyMan576]

time will prove me right.

[Dunnstral]

I will conclude by saying that I don't think we should eliminate either of them. I don't think it is impossible for both to be town due to the setup having an element of randomization that I think could have allowed for this. In addition both are unlikely to be either mafia or malefactor due to their roles. (mason on one hand, gunsmith claim proven on the other hand. I guess mafia gunsmith isn't

impossible

but still). And of course malefactors have no reason to true claim as gunsmith and give results. Monkeyman did so at day start, the mysterious mason player did so during the last night phase

[MonkeyMan576]

True, if anything I counterclaimed him, even though I didn't know it.

[MonkeyMan576]

them, what have you.

[cassowary]

Based on 5346...

VOTE: flavor leaf

will reevaluate in the morning when am in better condition to think about this. but I think if tictac is voting FL I will sheep that for now??

[Flavor Leaf]

My monkery can prove that I claimed to have a kill as soon as we hit night phase.

I killed Catboi slot.

[Flavor Leaf]

For what it’s worth, I read MonkeyMan as town Gunsmith and whoever the other gunsmith is probably scum wolf who gets to look for mafia with Monkey/Myself as red herrings, but still good for scum to find out.

I was correct in my Toogeloo town read and my Scum read.

I will be sipping and relaxing this day phase even if I get pushed.

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, so I had a wild crumb from much earlier in the game, where I said “I’m gonna bring back my Day 3 IC claim”

I’ll find it in my ISO and I’ll find the game where I did it originally at when I get home tomorrow night, but essentially in that game I claimed Day 3 IC as a vigilante, obviously nobody believed my Day 3 IC claim in that game.

[Enchant]

Did you claim Elimunator

[Dunnstral]

I would need some convincing as to why he will flip scum and not town.

other than Mastina, they have had no reads, and they claimed a meme claim when put to e-1. They also seemed frustrated about being policied but didn't care to do anything else.

I am gut town reading Toogeloo, but it could be just anti Catboi scum team for me.

Day 2, hopefully I get vigged/night killed and I can just move on tbh.

I'm happy enough with my Day 1 reads where if I have 3/4 correct that's a success.

Weird thing to say if you're a vig in my opinion.

[Flavor Leaf]

Saying I hope to be vigged is always a weird thing to say, even if I wasn’t.

I was also going “Vig Menalque.” earlier too. Almost did.

[Klick]

A small number of Gunsmiths with limited shots and the capability of getting false guilties on each other makes sense to me.

FL is just scum

[The Keeper]

but also like

hm

if fl claims he shot catboi then it's like

...

both factions failed to kill?

Almost like there's a weird rule where they can kill every 2 out of 3 nights and given the 3773 player made posts of D1 with FL being over 30%(30.27% to be precise) of the posts makes D1 a perfect night for a no kill because the town is going to be apathetic as heck going into day 2 with near zero information.

[The Keeper]

VOTE: MonkeyMan5678 my boot scootin' baby its driiiving me ca-razy my obsession with the western, I dance all day...

[The Keeper]

the last not quite so normal had a mason vig btw so a monk vig would be a flipside version of that

Oh your monastory has a mafioso in it by the way.