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Okay I'll make the posts.

In post 1979, Lush Life wrote:Town
{

SXTLHGaiden, Kaze,

Amar,

Pie,

GCBC, Varsoon,

Jaqen,

Muffin}

Really Really Weak Town / Should Probably Be Null
{Mac, Chamber of Kittens, Kise, Tsukasa, Dramonic}

Scum
{

Bubbajack,

Messiah Complex,

Serene,

ActionDan}

Not A Single Fuck Is Given / Figure It Out Your Own Damn Self
{Kagami, Saki, Katarina LaBlanc}

As per usual, bolded are stronger, italicized are weaker.



So saiyeth the Jiffy, so shall it be heard.

Those were Lush's reads before the Gaiden lynch. The hydra placed the vote on Varsoon and was willing to comprimise with a Bubba lynch while disregarding the Gaiden wagon.

After the lynch they start pushing heavily for the Muffin lynch with AD/CoK as a secondary read. Why would they do this? because of the fucking guilty. At no point was it crumbed that they copped in on GCBC, interactions between both of them on how they both wanted to start pushing on Muffin. If GCBC was copped at any point, then Lush would have piled up on Muffin but on him.

What is Muffin's defense? That Lush didn't crumb. That is most definitely false, your argument was trying to WIFOM on why Lush won't go guns blazing on you when they got the guilty. The answer (that I can logically put together), is they had a much more important power that they could've used the next night.

This is where Nacho comes in. Nacho claims to have been the motivator and this means that the next night Lush would have 2 uses of their power. That's sufficient reason to not immediately claim, but crumb a the guilty instead. If they stayed idle with their guilty on Muffin, they might've died in vain, hence why they decided to crumb it.

After Varsoon's flip, I do not believe that the redirect was possible. He specifically stated that things sent to Jaqen would be redirected to GCBC. Regardless of the role block I see only one way for Lush's investigation to be tampered with in any way, and that's if Nacho's role tampered with Lush's. I don't think this is possible due to the absurd specification of the role in that circumstance as well as me believing Nacho over anything that Muffin says.

I don't plan on letting this go, I want him dead. No, I will not reason with Muffin because I do believe he is confirmed scum and everything that comes out of his mouth is lies and misdirection so whoever feels as if they have any game-breaking information that would punch a hole in my theory then please, speak up. Do note that if I'm not convinced, I will scumread you as a partner to Muffin for being completely fucking blind and defending scumbutt.

I will compromise for a bubba lynch is people are still being butts about it but the more I think of it, the less appealing it is. I want to lynch the scum that is right there, rather than the shot in the dark. You're all bringing up this SK when one, the flavors are Good girls and Bad Girls or w/e you call the other ones. Would they be Serial killer girls? woahson. Totally fits the flavor yo, and which girl did he claim? Did she seem like the serial killery type? eeeh. Whatever!

I SMELL BLOOD.

VOTE: Muffin
VOTE: Muffin
VOTE: Muffin
VOTE: Muffin

kat, those were majiffy's reads; look at any reads post from bork and mollie and you'll see they had me as scum on D1.

the premise of your argument seems to be they were motivated and wanted to stay hidden so they voted AD and left someone they knew was scum alone. but motivate doesn't change the mechanics of a role; an odd-night cop wouldn't be able to use an ability on an even night in the same way a 2-shot kill cop doesn't have the mechanics of their role changed because of the motivate. get it through your head. your theory here is completely wrong.

i'm not scum and you're being a massive derp

WHY IS THERE A BLANK WHITE SPACE BETWEEN THIS POST AND MINE.

here's some questions for you, kat:

- do you think AD is scum?
- do you think he's lying about being motivated N2?
- if you don't think he's lying, what do you think about the fact he didn't get an extra investigation because of the motivate?

because that's pretty solid proof the motivate doesn't change the mechanics of the role. so your theory is essentially that they had a guilty on me and wanted to stay hidden until D4 in a game with multiple night-killing roles, and they were fine with lynching people they didn't know were scum until D4.

i don't really care if you're going to be a derp about this for the rest of the game, but do everyone a favour and prod dodge for a while if you're going to be anti-town

I entertained that AD could've possibly bussed back in Day 2. I still have a tinge of paranoia.
He was motivated day 2? Did Nacho confirm this at all.

How I interpret Lush's action is that they have an extra charge on their night action on the night they decide to use it. If it was motivate then...
>A Motivator is a role that can target a player at Night to allow them to use an extra action during the following Night. Note that factional abilities such as the Mafia's Night-kill cannot be used twice in one Night.
>allow them to use an extra action during the following Night.

Let's ask the mod!


Regardless or not if the motivation took place, the crumb was still there. They went from Muffin-eh to MUFFIN-SCUM-AND-HAS-TO-GO-EVENTUALLY. We are at "EVENTUALLY" right now (last night too!). I FOLLOW THE COP BECAUSE I'M A GOOD GIRL.

kat wrote:>allow them to use an extra action during the following Night.

so when both the mod and AD confirm the mechanics of the role don't change like that because of a motivate, what are you going to say about it?

because, literally, your argument is that:
-> they investigated me and got a guilty
-> they wanted to stay hidden until D4 for no reason in a game with multiple killing roles
-> they were fine with lynching players they weren't sure about until then in order to stay hidden

if you legitimately think this makes sense, then i'll just ignore you altogether

kat wrote:They went from Muffin-eh to MUFFIN-SCUM-AND-HAS-TO-GO-EVENTUALLY

well, (a) there were never really "eh" on me, both bork and mollie thought i was scum for a majority of D1, and (b) they said the same thing about AD, so what's your point here?

In post 5380, zMuffinMan wrote:

kat wrote:>allow them to use an extra action during the following Night.

so when both the mod and AD confirm the mechanics of the role don't change like that because of a motivate, what are you going to say about it?

because, literally, your argument is that:
-> they investigated me and got a guilty

Yes

-> they wanted to stay hidden until D4 for no reason in a game with multiple killing roles

Day 3

-> they were fine with lynching players they weren't sure about until then in order to stay hidden

As long as they got word out that you're scum to die, then yes.

if you legitimately think this makes sense, then

i'll just ignore you altogether

STOP REASONING WITH ME THEN, B-BAKA

yeah, my bad for thinking i was talking with someone who could deal with basic logic

btw, one other thing. what's your read on saki and bubba? coz you don't seem at all perturbed that they're the ones supporting you

In post 5383, zMuffinMan wrote:btw, one other thing. what's your read on saki and bubba? coz you don't seem at all perturbed that they're the ones supporting you

EXPLAIN HOW THEY ARE SUPPORTING ME

Kat is still lost in D3, we will talk again when you've caught up to D5

I will stab you with a rusty knife.

kat wrote:EXPLAIN HOW THEY ARE SUPPORTING ME

ok

what's your read on bubba and saki? coz you don't seem at all perturbed that they are the only ones who agree with you / are wagoning with you / whatever you want to call it if you don't think it's supporting you

In post 5387, zMuffinMan wrote:

kat wrote:EXPLAIN HOW THEY ARE SUPPORTING ME

ok

what's your read on bubba and saki? coz you don't seem at all perturbed that they are the only ones who agree with you / are wagoning with you / whatever you want to call it if you don't think it's supporting you

I have this tingling feeling that bubba is SK or something and Saki it just eh-ish.

I'm assuming there's like 3ish scum out there and I don't know, okay? You're making me less and less confident about everything in general that usadfhuasdhrn.

NO, HANNAH, YOU WILL NOT CHICKEN OUT >:I

In post 5379, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:@Mod if a odd night role was motivated, how would their action be affected (if it will be)

OH SHIT I WASN'T USELESS WHY DIDN'T WE ASK THAT BEFORE

kat wrote:The answer (that I can logically put together), is they had a much more important power that they could've used the next night

so now the mod has confirmed nacho was useless, does that change your interpretation?

This is just a prod dodge. I'll probably post something at least a bit more substantial tomorrow.

pdodge

I still don't get how the hell a motivator can take effect in the same night

pieguy wrote:I still don't get how the hell a motivator can take effect in the same night

it doesn't. gif just basically said it "kicks in" at the beginning of the next day for the following night

in other news, tumbleweeds, tumbleweeds everywhere

why isn't ^ he dead yet

lol saki

hey saki,

what are your current reads?