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Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:37 am
by jjh927
In post 5369, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Can I just say that making a trans female character into an agentless worse than vanilla townie because you couldn't be arsed to do even an instant of research is a really shitty thing to do when you advertise a upick game, when you gave 2 male characters hyper OP overloaded kits?
Like DGB and Toog's male characters got so much power and I got to be a less than worthless after thought.
I don't think that's a fair assessment. You got a negative utility role but it was not an afterthought. I put more time thinking about what I could do for Katia than for any other role in the game because I did understand that to some extent in picking only Katia you were requesting that I somehow translate a complicated portrayal of gender identity to a mafia role.
Regarding DGB and Toogeloo's roles; I can't really attest as to whether I have any subconscious bias there because if I do it's subconscious and this is highly subjective stuff. That being said, I have checked over the setup again and I do not think I have favoured male characters over female characters in role PM creation.
One thing I do apologise for is the indication that this game could approach lolbalance when I put it in signups, as I think the design here is simply a highly unorthodox but well balanced game where there isn't actually a huge amount of power floating around. With lolbalance you would expect high power creating high swing. You expected as a result of this to receive a powerful role to go with a character that you feel strongly about, however you ended up with negative utility. I understand how that can be jarring and I'm sorry for dashing your expectations in this way.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:38 am
by Gamma Emerald
I can't help but feel like I'm the reason my team lost, given I was swapped for Pooky in Chromatic Ascension and they won pretty squarely
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:43 am
by Cabd
The game changing moment had nothing to do with you, it was the track on Dunn that had stuff fall apart.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:46 am
by Gamma Emerald
that wouldn't have happened if I'd not tried so hard to commandeer the night plan tho
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:59 am
by T3
btw i replaced out pregame because school was starting and based on the pl i was worried i wouldn't be able to keep up
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:01 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
Oh I tried to get knight Chartreuse on Chromatic, also yes @mod could you redact that one area that I marked for redaction? I'll put the post# in the hood
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:06 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
PMed redaction since hood is locked
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:08 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
what are you redacting Kyouko? Nothing game related I hope, something personal right?
cause if it's a game thing redacting it would be kind of bad
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:17 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 5376, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can't help but feel like I'm the reason my team lost, given I was swapped for Pooky in Chromatic Ascension and they won pretty squarely
Completely different game
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:30 pm
by Toogeloo
Sorry for the replace out. I was a bit in tears that night and having a moment. I could have handled things better.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:36 pm
by Kate Bishop
I'm really sorry the game had so much effect on you, toog. I wish I had pushed harder about your meta. :/
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:39 pm
by WhemeStar
LETS GO WE WON GOOD JOB TEAM
THIS WAS A REALLY FUN GAME THANKS JJH
ps I can’t believe I thought my role gave allugnment I almost threw
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:42 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Yeah that was a massive error on the mod’s side
ROLE COP NEVER DIRECTLY RETURNS ALIGNMENT. The only alignment revelation involved with rolecop should be implicit by revealing fake claims or finding alignment-limited roles.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:46 pm
by DrippingGoofball
What could my role have done, since I never got to use it?
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:46 pm
by Toogeloo
Nah, now that it's over, let me clarify what happened.
I was going full shitpost by the time I was exiting the game. I was extremely frustrated at the death tunnel and people just signing off their votes. My wagon had two scum, so I get it. I wanted to expand my shit posting technique, so I created a topic asking about how to post images in general chat.
Pooky made a post there that I completely misinterpreted. I called him out in PMs, but I was offended. In hindsight, I can completely see the other way to read his reply, but in the moment, I only interpreted his comment as an attack on me.
I was in tears, I replaced out of all my commitments, I was in full crash mode. Pooky talked to me afterwards, and I couldn't stop crying, because I felt like I had dragged him through the mud while I was throwing a mental hissy fit.
I think it was just a perfect storm of raw emotion and I had a small breakdown, but honestly, talking with Pooky in PMs helped me more than just walking away. It was still a good idea that I replaced out, and I give Titus all my love and thanks for trying to carry my slot through the rest of the way.
I want to apologize to anyone else I might have offended in the game.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:57 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
In post 5382, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:what are you redacting Kyouko? Nothing game related I hope, something personal right?
cause if it's a game thing redacting it would be kind of bad
One part of my read on Luke. It turned out to be wrong obviously, but I dont want him to try to replicate it intentionally as scum in the future to appear town to me
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:57 pm
by ssbm_Kyouko
I wasnt going to share it if I couldn't redact it, as I felt my case was solid enough without it.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:58 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 5390, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: In post 5382, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:what are you redacting Kyouko? Nothing game related I hope, something personal right?
cause if it's a game thing redacting it would be kind of bad
One part of my read on Luke. It turned out to be wrong obviously, but I dont want him to try to replicate it intentionally as scum in the future to appear town to me
That's not something you should be allowed to redact? Like if it was a game relevant information this time, you can't just remove info from a semi public location.
It's one thing for a scum team not to want a PT release but a neighborhood redaction?
I dunno
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 12:59 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
But you did share it, with the other person in the neighbourhood right
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:08 pm
by notscience
The mod posted it in the post with all of our roles-
-Momon - (Create a false identity) - This will make the user ascetic for the phase. If they would die, instead there will be a 'fake' flip of Momon, who was Pandora's Actor, and the player will not be dead.
-Splat - (Show your strength) - The start of the next day phase will not begin as normal. Instead, all players will be asked to submit a vote via PM for an additional elim before the day starts. The mafia thread will be locked for this.
-Sasuga Ainz Sama - (Just as planned) - The start of the next day phase will not begin as normal. Instead, all players will be asked to submit a vote via PM for who they think the elim will be in this day phase. Any players who choose correctly will get a hood.
-Swords of Darkness – (Making friends) – At the start of the day Ainz will receive a Day X 1-Shot Neighbouriser Combined Recursive Inventor: During day X, you may PM the mod targeting a player to add them to a neighbourhood and simultaneously grant them a usage of this ability. Any player using this ability will add their target to the same topic. If Unwnd is alive, Unwnd will be added to the PT regardless of who is initially targeted.
The one you used gave us the vote that caught scum super off guard on the awful manatee wagon, so you did succeed!
Good game, you genuinely were my favorite poster day one.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:10 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 5394, notscience wrote:-Swords of Darkness – (Making friends) – At the start of the day Ainz will receive a Day X 1-Shot Neighbouriser Combined Recursive Inventor: During day X, you may PM the mod targeting a player to add them to a neighbourhood and simultaneously grant them a usage of this ability. Any player using this ability will add their target to the same topic. If Unwnd is alive, Unwnd will be added to the PT regardless of who is initially targeted.
That was in Radio Buzz as well LMFAO
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:22 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In post 5384, Toogeloo wrote:Sorry for the replace out. I was a bit in tears that night and having a moment. I could have handled things better.
Ah, I'm sorry to hear this.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:29 pm
by Kate Bishop
In post 5392, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 5390, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: In post 5382, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:what are you redacting Kyouko? Nothing game related I hope, something personal right?
cause if it's a game thing redacting it would be kind of bad
One part of my read on Luke. It turned out to be wrong obviously, but I dont want him to try to replicate it intentionally as scum in the future to appear town to me
That's not something you should be allowed to redact? Like if it was a game relevant information this time, you can't just remove info from a semi public location.
It's one thing for a scum team not to want a PT release but a neighborhood redaction?
I dunno
She asked JJH if it could be redacted before she posted, and she wouldn't have posted it if the answer was no.
I'm of the opinion that PT redactions happen too frequently in MS games and I wish that there was a sitewide standard regarding them.
In this case, since she asked first and was assured she could redact, I don't think it's fair to take her to task about it.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:32 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 5397, Kate Bishop wrote: In post 5392, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 5390, ssbm_Kyouko wrote: In post 5382, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:what are you redacting Kyouko? Nothing game related I hope, something personal right?
cause if it's a game thing redacting it would be kind of bad
One part of my read on Luke. It turned out to be wrong obviously, but I dont want him to try to replicate it intentionally as scum in the future to appear town to me
That's not something you should be allowed to redact? Like if it was a game relevant information this time, you can't just remove info from a semi public location.
It's one thing for a scum team not to want a PT release but a neighborhood redaction?
I dunno
She asked JJH if it could be redacted before she posted, and she wouldn't have posted it if the answer was no.
I'm of the opinion that PT redactions happen too frequently in MS games and I wish that there was a sitewide standard regarding them.
In this case, since she asked first and was assured she could redact, I don't think it's fair to take her to task about it.
I wasn't aware that was a thing she asked for prior to it. Yeah I mean, at that point it's an issue I have with the mod not the player.
Don't mean to lay into anyone, just digging at this.
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:36 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5376, Gamma Emerald wrote:I can't help but feel like I'm the reason my team lost, given I was swapped for Pooky in Chromatic Ascension and they won pretty squarely
that seems unfair
you played pretty well in this game.
i think cabd is just more op when he gets to play incog