In post 5371, MathBlade wrote:3/4ths if the game is treating this like goddamn RVS right now.
It’s not.
Fucking listen more
My main worry - as someone who'd contemplate one or two of these wagons to get the day over - is that it could be a very easy place for scum to hide and say they were voting on the basis of being helpful townies to end the day. I'd like to see one of the wagons run up those to see if we encounter resistance, that in itself would help us gauge our reads.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:05 am
by MalcolmTucker
Looking at those four actually, only one I'd really feel okay on is Mala and even then it's more just to end the day. I TR Frog/Dunn and townlean Taly. Don't think any of those three would be particularly good eliminations.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:07 am
by Cat Scratch Fever
Then vote Johnny, there's a wagon there too. Anything beats not voting
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:08 am
by Cephrir
since my game is now over, if that game is a good example of CSF's scum game there is absolutely 0 chance she is scum here
In post 5195, Klick wrote:
I think Ceph's last several posts have all been transparent solving and I really liked him advocating for Drapion!town when no one else wants to comment on how obvtown he is
I think several people have called that slot town?
But i think the mathblade push are some of his better posts
i think i got there before anyone else
i didn't have a lot of thoughts about the last bunch of pages except that if we gave up and yeeted enchant 120 pages after i suggested it that would be the most mafiascum thing of all time
Are you willing to reconsider adding Mala to your WtV list on the grounds the slot was mistakenly considered a TPR claim from the get go? I think that biased my assessment of the slot.
TBone are you willing to reconsider *and add Mala to your WtV list on the grounds the slot was mistakenly considered a TPR claim from the get go?
If I don't have Mala on it, I don't remember why I removed them and I have to look again. Mala isn't claimed in a hood right? I think I removed people just for being in a hood early on (before a dozen more were revealed). But I'll review my posts and see if and when I did that.
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:09 am
by T-Bone
No Mala is still there stop making me think I'm crazy
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:09 am
by Frogsterking
I'd give Enchant the hammer if Johnny gets to 12
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:11 am
by T-Bone
I want to see a VC before I consider moving my vote again though. I'm not against it, I don't have a town read or reason to not yet Mala at this stage.
In post 5311, Rad wrote:Yo nancy if you're town, we just don't pay nicely together. You don't understand me, I don't understand you, and we're both getting scummy reads from it. Let's just back off each other ok? I read your past town games and you focus so hard on anyone who thinks you're scum that I know I'm walking into a town death land mine discussing anything with you. How about I point out stuff I find strange about you, you point out stuff you find strange about me, and we let other people sort us out? Deal?
This feels like an odd post. It's as if Rad wants to back off from earlier Puppets reads/interactions a bit but wants to articulate a reason for doing so that seems overly townie on the off-chance anyone calls them out about it.
Malcolm, do you feel like you might read into things too much? Just curious if you've run through that sort of introspection. Cause town!Malcolm is reading into it too much and just inherently disbelieving me at every turn. I couldn't help but read you scummy for it before until I got a chance to read your ISO and see how consistent you are with it.
Unless you have a goddamn miracle case someone is scum I don’t fucking care
Stop doing vanity wagons and listen to other people
There’s 5 scum in here
You don’t need your damn pet wagon
In post 5371, MathBlade wrote:3/4ths if the game is treating this like goddamn RVS right now.
It’s not.
Fucking listen more
You’re the one not listening Math, Mala’s not a vanity wagon.
Read my case.
???
I'm assuming this is Titus; clearly you missed the part where Math said for people to vote mala/one of the other 3 wagons with more than two votes
~GE
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:17 am
by Frogsterking
In post 5380, T-Bone wrote:No Mala is still there stop making me think I'm crazy
Good, that's a good sign. I think Mala is the best suggestion.
PEdit:
No Enchant I have you as null. I was mostly voting you because I didn't know what else to do. I've become convinced Mala is the best chance at actually hitting scum today. Also if Johnny or Drapion get to 12 somehow I'll put them at e-1 so you can lolhammer them because I think they're annoying.
Unless you have a goddamn miracle case someone is scum I don’t fucking care
Stop doing vanity wagons and listen to other people
There’s 5 scum in here
You don’t need your damn pet wagon
In post 5371, MathBlade wrote:3/4ths if the game is treating this like goddamn RVS right now.
It’s not.
Fucking listen more
You’re the one not listening Math, Mala’s not a vanity wagon.
Read my case.
Mala’s one of the top four wagons ergo not vanity
That is a generalized message.
I don’t have time to go hunting in a game this size for your case.
Well he was voting her and she’s not a vanity wagon, so don’t understand your point?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:20 am
by Frogsterking
@Enchant
In post 5389, Frogsterking wrote:No Enchant I have you as null. I was mostly voting you because I didn't know what else to do. I've become convinced Mala is the best chance at actually hitting scum today. Also if Johnny or Drapion get to 12 somehow I'll put them at e-1 so you can lolhammer them because I think they're annoying.
In post 5311, Rad wrote:Yo nancy if you're town, we just don't pay nicely together. You don't understand me, I don't understand you, and we're both getting scummy reads from it. Let's just back off each other ok? I read your past town games and you focus so hard on anyone who thinks you're scum that I know I'm walking into a town death land mine discussing anything with you. How about I point out stuff I find strange about you, you point out stuff you find strange about me, and we let other people sort us out? Deal?
This feels like an odd post. It's as if Rad wants to back off from earlier Puppets reads/interactions a bit but wants to articulate a reason for doing so that seems overly townie on the off-chance anyone calls them out about it.
Malcolm, do you feel like you might read into things too much?
Just curious if you've run through that sort of introspection. Cause town!Malcolm is reading into it too much and just inherently disbelieving me at every turn. I couldn't help but read you scummy for it before until I got a chance to read your ISO and see how consistent you are with it.
Possibly, but then reading into things is a vital part of the game, no? Perhaps I've started to SR you and my brain is instinctively looking for reasons to validate that read - but ultimately if you hold a read on D1 as town unless the other player is rubbish (and I very much don't think you are!) you're to some degree going to have to read into things that might not end up being there or as you interpret them down the line. I'm willing to revise this view in time, I just think your read on DP has had some really scummy vibes from the start.
In post 5311, Rad wrote:Yo nancy if you're town, we just don't pay nicely together. You don't understand me, I don't understand you, and we're both getting scummy reads from it. Let's just back off each other ok? I read your past town games and you focus so hard on anyone who thinks you're scum that I know I'm walking into a town death land mine discussing anything with you. How about I point out stuff I find strange about you, you point out stuff you find strange about me, and we let other people sort us out? Deal?
This feels like an odd post. It's as if Rad wants to back off from earlier Puppets reads/interactions a bit but wants to articulate a reason for doing so that seems overly townie on the off-chance anyone calls them out about it.
Malcolm, do you feel like you might read into things too much?
Just curious if you've run through that sort of introspection. Cause town!Malcolm is reading into it too much and just inherently disbelieving me at every turn. I couldn't help but read you scummy for it before until I got a chance to read your ISO and see how consistent you are with it.
Possibly, but then reading into things is a vital part of the game, no? Perhaps I've started to SR you and my brain is instinctively looking for reasons to validate that read - but ultimately if you hold a read on D1 as town unless the other player is rubbish (and I very much don't think you are!) you're to some degree going to have to read into things that might not end up being there or as you interpret them down the line. I'm willing to revise this view in time, I just think your read on DP has had some really scummy vibes from the start.
I find it extremely ironic that RAD is accusing someone else of reading into to things too much.
In post 5311, Rad wrote:Yo nancy if you're town, we just don't pay nicely together. You don't understand me, I don't understand you, and we're both getting scummy reads from it. Let's just back off each other ok? I read your past town games and you focus so hard on anyone who thinks you're scum that I know I'm walking into a town death land mine discussing anything with you. How about I point out stuff I find strange about you, you point out stuff you find strange about me, and we let other people sort us out? Deal?
This feels like an odd post. It's as if Rad wants to back off from earlier Puppets reads/interactions a bit but wants to articulate a reason for doing so that seems overly townie on the off-chance anyone calls them out about it.
Malcolm, do you feel like you might read into things too much?
Just curious if you've run through that sort of introspection. Cause town!Malcolm is reading into it too much and just inherently disbelieving me at every turn. I couldn't help but read you scummy for it before until I got a chance to read your ISO and see how consistent you are with it.
Possibly, but then reading into things is a vital part of the game, no? Perhaps I've started to SR you and my brain is instinctively looking for reasons to validate that read - but ultimately if you hold a read on D1 as town unless the other player is rubbish (and I very much don't think you are!) you're to some degree going to have to read into things that might not end up being there or as you interpret them down the line. I'm willing to revise this view in time, I just think your read on DP has had some really scummy vibes from the start.
I find it extremely ironic that RAD is accusing someone else of reading into to things too much.
If they're town I understand the frustration but it feels like an odd criticism - D1 of this game naturally involves reading too much into things to come up with reads because ultimately it's only really scum who are informed, and even then they don't tend to have much info beyond basic alignment.
I almost get the impression Rad's scum, has been doing a good job at it, and is slightly annoyed/confused that there's finally a bit of pressure on them considering the early TR's and lack of pressure.
