Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:25 am
Why is Tohru replacing out?In post 5395, BNL wrote:Creaturehas been prodded.
Nowseeking replacement for Tohru and MariaR. Deadline is paused until a replacement for both have been found.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:31 am
2 scummy coalition members and 2 scummy people (who may or may not be in the coalition) is best.In post 5398, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Anyway, I had an epiphany last night that has been validated time and time again by my experience in mafia, that I should always trust my initial instincts.
VOTE: Time Devil, Creature, Chemist, Clemency
I still think Moon could be scum but him correctly pointing out that having less than 3 coalition members in veto is pointless, makes him less likely to be scum than TD, so I prefer this.
Choosing a third coalition member over someone truly scummy ruins the point of the veto.
If you're vetoed you're either dead or scum. Don't make it so there's a surviving townie in the veto.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:38 am
We need 2 scummy coalition members in the veto since we need to clean up the coalition btw.
There's probably only 1 scum in the coalition. Picking 4 coalition members means there is a surviving townie in the veto.
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There's probably only 1 scum in the coalition. Picking 4 coalition members means there is a surviving townie in the veto.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:46 am
No, veto is pointless unless there’s at least 3 coalition members in it. What if Chemist and Clemency are both town? Having two consensus scumreads doesn’t necessarily prove anything, because they could be a frame. However, we do KNOW for a fact, that there is at least one scum in the coalition and therefore having 3, is extremely likely to net us one. I don’t believe anyone else in the coalition is scum. I think that both Tohru and Titus are mindmelding with me that Creature could be scum and he is the only coalition member of the non-lhfs (Chemist and Clemency) that I am not confident in excluding. Since I strongly tr everyone else in it, I don’t see the point of likely town dying, which I think anyone else in the coalition will. Creature being adamant about not “sacrificing obvtown” but then claiming to be okay with me and Sky dying, didn’t sit too well with me.In post 5401, Time Devil wrote:2 scummy coalition members and 2 scummy people (who may or may not be in the coalition) is best.In post 5398, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Anyway, I had an epiphany last night that has been validated time and time again by my experience in mafia, that I should always trust my initial instincts.
VOTE: Time Devil, Creature, Chemist, Clemency
I still think Moon could be scum but him correctly pointing out that having less than 3 coalition members in veto is pointless, makes him less likely to be scum than TD, so I prefer this.
Choosing a third coalition member over someone truly scummy ruins the point of the veto.
If you're vetoed you're either dead or scum. Don't make it so there's a surviving townie in the veto.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:48 am
I’m not advocating for 4, since I tr everyone else in it.In post 5402, Time Devil wrote:We need 2 scummy coalition members in the veto since we need to clean up the coalition btw.
There's probably only 1 scum in the coalition. Picking 4 coalition members means there is a surviving townie in the veto.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:50 am
I'm just gonna vote Titus coalition I guess since Tohru mostly agreed with it and I don't have the energy to push anything else
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:55 am
Scum is extremely aware of the mechanics and it really is not in their best interests to point this out.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 5:58 am
i could swap moon out for PB
just not really trusting of any veto that chem is voting for
just not really trusting of any veto that chem is voting for
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:00 am
I can swap out Clemency with Creature in my veto.
Not feeling either tbh.
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Not feeling either tbh.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:03 am
Both town!Ank and scum!Creature were in Topaz, so I’m trusting both her tr on PB/Ank slot and sr on Creature.In post 5405, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm just gonna vote Titus coalition I guess since Tohru mostly agreed with it and I don't have the energy to push anything else
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:06 am
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:09 am
Moon is staying in the veto.
Any veto without Chemist1422 in it is scum-AI
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Any veto without Chemist1422 in it is scum-AI
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:12 am
VOTE: Chemist1422, Creature, Moongrass, RadiantCowbells
RC's veto doesn't have Chemist
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RC's veto doesn't have Chemist
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:13 am
I think Chemist would probably vote for that too.In post 5407, Skygazer wrote:i could swap moon out for PB
just not really trusting of any veto that chem is voting for
I think we will find out who’s scum by people opposing having at least 3 coalition members in veto. In any case, I think any coalition that doesn’t have all 3 Cs from the coalition is a mistake. I will very reluctantly support a coalition with PB as the fourth only to avoid coalition fail but I don’t believe PB/Ank is ever scum here, so I definitely don’t prefer it.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:17 am
2-3 coalition members in veto is gold.
4 leaves a townie alive.
Less than 2 fails to clean up the coalition.
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4 leaves a townie alive.
Less than 2 fails to clean up the coalition.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:18 am
In post 5412, Time Devil wrote:VOTE: Chemist1422, Creature, Moongrass, RadiantCowbells
RC's veto doesn't have Chemist
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In post 4432, Titus wrote:VOTE: Creature Clemency Chemist Pink Ball
Join me. We can bicker tomorrow about the next step.
He just said he would vote Titus coalition.In post 5405, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm just gonna vote Titus coalition I guess since Tohru mostly agreed with it and I don't have the energy to push anything else
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:21 am
Titus's veto is a bad veto.In post 5415, NanceFloor wrote:He just said he would vote Titus coalition.
It's a 4 coalition veto and it reeks of consensus.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:23 am
It’s not the best because PB isn’t scum and neither is RC and why are you voting him, when I just proved you wrong about him being opposed to voting Chemist?In post 5416, Time Devil wrote:Titus's veto is a bad veto.In post 5415, NanceFloor wrote:He just said he would vote Titus coalition.
It's a 4 coalition veto and it reeks of consensus.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:25 am
In post 5415, NanceFloor wrote:In post 5412, Time Devil wrote:VOTE: Chemist1422, Creature, Moongrass, RadiantCowbells
RC's veto doesn't have Chemist
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Join me. We can bicker tomorrow about the next step.In post 5405, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm just gonna vote Titus coalition I guess since Tohru mostly agreed with it and I don't have the energy to push anything elseHe just said he would vote Titus coalition.
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:27 am
VOTE: Chemist, Creature, Clem, PB
sorry creature
sorry creature
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:30 am
In post 5412, Time Devil wrote:VOTE: Chemist1422, Creature, Moongrass, RadiantCowbells
RC's veto doesn't have Chemist
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:32 am
I still think RC is scummier than PB or Clemency.
RC doesn't seem like his town self.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:32 am
what do you know about my town self?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:32 am
And whoops. I failed to hydra.In post 5421, TemporalLich wrote:I still think RC is scummier than PB or Clemency.
RC doesn't seem like his town self.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:33 am
4 coalition veto is the point...In post 5416, Time Devil wrote:Titus's veto is a bad veto.In post 5415, NanceFloor wrote:He just said he would vote Titus coalition.
It's a 4 coalition veto and it reeks of consensus.
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Consensus veto is good imo. Our reads are forced to get better.
We'll redo the coalition tomorrow and have a gameplan.