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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:21 am
by lilith2013
I feel like I have been very neutral in my posts, especially in comparison to the full extent of my feelings. I do not think I have continued to criticize you or that I criticized you in the first place.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:22 am
by skitter30
In post 5391, Menalque wrote:it was deeply unpleasant to read
very large parts of this was unpleasant to play through if i'm being honest
you're all cool people
this was ... not easy

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:23 am
by skitter30
In post 5393, Something_Smart wrote:Wait hold on, I thought DonCorleone was gobbledygook

Did I miss something?
no, it's mena! i almost slipped up calling him that this game multiple times

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:23 am
by Raven Branwen
Sorry @Skitter and Dats. I absolutely loved playing with you guys and I apologize for anything I did to make you uncomfortable.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:23 am
by lilith2013
In post 5393, Something_Smart wrote:Wait hold on, I thought DonCorleone was gobbledygook

Did I miss something?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12063550
:P

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:23 am
by skitter30
In post 5397, Raven Branwen wrote:<3. I hear you. Please give me a few days to get back to myself and we can either PM or DM, Dats as well. In fact. if both of you have Discord we can do a 3 on 1 chat if you like.
maybe in a few days
i don't want to talk about it rn

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 am
by Something_Smart
Oh yeah that's right, I saw that and then forgot about it lol

Why did gobbles admit to being DC then :thonk:

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:24 am
by skitter30
In post 5399, Raven Branwen wrote:Oh and btw Skitter the knowledge that bugs would actually almost lolhammer his own teammate totally blew my mind.
they didn't lolhammer me
they lolhammered someone else (nahdia maybe?) and then fake-claimed what we agreed in teh scum pt what i would fake-claim

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:25 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5400, lilith2013 wrote:I feel like I have been very neutral in my posts, especially in comparison to the full extent of my feelings. I do not think I have continued to criticize you or that I criticized you in the first place.
I’m sorry, I’m in no place to deal with this rn and I’m very respectfully asking you to stop. Thank you.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:27 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5405, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5397, Raven Branwen wrote:<3. I hear you. Please give me a few days to get back to myself and we can either PM or DM, Dats as well. In fact. if both of you have Discord we can do a 3 on 1 chat if you like.
maybe in a few days
i don't want to talk about it rn
Sure this game was emotional torture for me and if it weren’t for duckling I wouldn’t have been able to handle it, even in the clearly suboptimal way I did.

And yeah fine, works for me as well.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:32 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5407, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5399, Raven Branwen wrote:Oh and btw Skitter the knowledge that bugs would actually almost lolhammer his own teammate totally blew my mind.
they didn't lolhammer me
they lolhammered someone else (nahdia maybe?) and then fake-claimed what we agreed in teh scum pt what i would fake-claim
Oh I misunderstood then. I still haven’t read the beginning of the game. :lol:

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:39 am
by lilith2013
You seem to take everything I say to mean that I’m attacking you somehow when I feel like I have been as civil as I can possibly be, given the situation. I’m not even sure what it is that I’m supposed to be stopping. I believe it’s best for my own sake to just avoid you instead of having to navigate this every time I post.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:40 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5398, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5388, Menalque wrote:Well done skitt for calling tw on D1, I also thought he wouldn’t leave you alive + claim bg D2 and I didn’t think he would vs you on D1 bc while I was reading that I was like “uhh I think they’re both town but I would 100% vote the duck here if I had to”.
in retrospect i probably should have forced it like day1. i feel kinda bad forcing things tho. there were a few key moments where his reaction to things was just Very Wrong
(but overall he played well and i got snowed <3)

i think this game was lost like early day2 and that we just didn't realize it. there was a confluence of factors, i'm realizing, that made it incredibly unlikely that i would have correctly gotten to a solve this past day even though something was niggling at me throughout this whoe past day that the townbloc wasn't ~quite~ as solid as i would have liked
Btw, once you read the scum PT, you would actually find out that I did tr you right out of the gate for realz and did think duckling was scum. What completely shocked me was that bugs wasn’t.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:41 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5411, lilith2013 wrote:You seem to take everything I say to mean that I’m attacking you somehow when I feel like I have been as civil as I can possibly be, given the situation. I’m not even sure what it is that I’m supposed to be stopping. I believe it’s best for my own sake to just avoid you instead of having to navigate this every time I post.
What part of I’m not in an emotionally great place rn and can’t handle this do I need to make clearer?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:43 am
by the worst
In post 5388, Menalque wrote:Regarding toxicity: sorry to the rest of the PL for making it unpleasant for you. Also, ducky — sorry about the stuff on you knowing who I was or not? I just thought you’d figure it out without trying bc I like, wasn’t really trying to hide it this fame (skitt and dats already knew) and I was thinking it was kinda susp if you’d realised DC /was/ me and were just like... not acknowledging that
it's ok; definitely a matter of policy for me to try and avoid identifying alts if I possibly can but I know that kinda jars from the way a lot of people approach alts generally and stuff so I expect to take flak for it. thank you for thinking on it & circling back to it here.

the first time actually wondered if it was you was when I was reflecting on you getting disappointed about me not correctly identifying it was you :lol:

... that sure is a sentence I wrote

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:49 am
by RadiantCowbells
This is the only game I've followed since I quit and it will probably be the last I do.

GG everyone!

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:50 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5415, RadiantCowbells wrote:This is the only game I've followed since I quit and it will probably be the last I do.

GG everyone!
Yeah, it was a really cool setup.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:55 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5412, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 5398, skitter30 wrote:
In post 5388, Menalque wrote:Well done skitt for calling tw on D1, I also thought he wouldn’t leave you alive + claim bg D2 and I didn’t think he would vs you on D1 bc while I was reading that I was like “uhh I think they’re both town but I would 100% vote the duck here if I had to”.
in retrospect i probably should have forced it like day1. i feel kinda bad forcing things tho. there were a few key moments where his reaction to things was just Very Wrong
(but overall he played well and i got snowed <3)

i think this game was lost like early day2 and that we just didn't realize it. there was a confluence of factors, i'm realizing, that made it incredibly unlikely that i would have correctly gotten to a solve this past day even though something was niggling at me throughout this whoe past day that the townbloc wasn't ~quite~ as solid as i would have liked
Btw, once you read the scum PT, you would actually find out that I did tr you right out of the gate for realz and did think duckling was scum. What completely shocked me was that bugs wasn’t.
In post 87, Raven Branwen wrote:I have to tl Skitter here because she will be suspicious of me if I don’t, since she’s so obviously townie.


Well we all know how well that worked out. :lol:

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:00 am
by DkKoba
the confbias on pooky was very unfair. also skitter u should not trust a small game sample size in forum mafia, people can easily switch things up esp when that sample size is over years. my notes pt had some thoughts about hte last day whenever that gets released.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:02 am
by skitter30
yeah ... i have a lot of thoughts on that. kinda want to talk to him about it when he gets in here too.
kinda sorry it ended the way it ended

also not sure i could have gotten to the correct solve given everything.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:02 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5418, DkKoba wrote:the confbias on pooky was very unfair. also skitter u should not trust a small game sample size in forum mafia, people can easily switch things up esp when that sample size is over years. my notes pt had some thoughts about hte last day whenever that gets released.
I felt bad for him and I hope he doesn’t hate me for being scum here. Btw, although I <3 SS, it would have been fun playing with you.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:04 am
by DkKoba
u had it as long as u stopped with the ridiculous notion that TW had to be real. i dont think u had enough tw scum/skitter town games to have a good argument on "things tw would never do" for the past 6-12 months(which is about how long one should ever trust meta wrt things like this lol)

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:05 am
by Raven Branwen
In post 5419, skitter30 wrote:yeah ... i have a lot of thoughts on that. kinda want to talk to him about it when he gets in here too.
kinda sorry it ended the way it ended

also not sure i could have gotten to the correct solve given everything.
Duckling wanted me to hammer because he was paranoid that Dats would get cold feet and unvote.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:05 am
by lilith2013
In post 2589, skitter30 wrote:i currently think that all scum is in {tw, raven, aldu}.
tfw skitter was right on D1

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:06 am
by RadiantCowbells
In post 5423, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 2589, skitter30 wrote:i currently think that all scum is in {tw, raven, aldu}.
tfw skitter was right on D1
It's not very well known but she's actually a pretty good player, not that I'd ever say that to her face.